Matrix Mafia Endgame, Town and Survivors win!

[Nebuchadnezer]

one thing. you dont know wether to vote him as to not be hipocritical. well if your worth something and he isnt (sounds bad lol...) then why would you not want to get rid of him. we all have the same day power he chooses not to use his and you do so there is nothing hypocritcal about it.

+1, don't be afraid Neb, my vote will be going back to him in the next day or 2 if he doesn't pick up his act real quick.

I'm not afraid. I just hate to lynch a seeming townie claim...however, he has to realize his play has killed him. I will be ready for night in a day or two anyway. This was one hell of a whirlwind day.

[cowboyz]

I'm all for getting more info. Really not used to playing such a long D1.
The other person that I and many others had had some suspicion on was hippo. So now that Eldario has claimed I'm gonna go ahead and VOTE HIPPO

We could go hunting for the inactives (which I think they will def need to start speaking the hell up or stop even joining these games) or go with what seemed to be odd behavior.

We now have two VTs and a pair of Masons claimed. Four people. Is there a cap or do we go till we find our Town Doc or Cop?

Claimed is main thing. None of these claims have been proven. We did at least however get some info.
I dont think everyone claiming is best idea, but we have a few days left. Lets make the best and get some info on who we all think to be next scummiest. My vote goes for Hippo

Check former posts for reasons.

[everywhere116]

I am not so sure. We only have 3 days left, and I'm not sure we're going to be able to reform a lynch if we split the vote this late in the day.

[Nebuchadnezer]

I'm all for getting more info. Really not used to playing such a long D1.
The other person that I and many others had had some suspicion on was hippo. So now that Eldario has claimed I'm gonna go ahead and VOTE HIPPO

We could go hunting for the inactives (which I think they will def need to start speaking the hell up or stop even joining these games) or go with what seemed to be odd behavior.

We now have two VTs and a pair of Masons claimed. Four people. Is there a cap or do we go till we find our Town Doc or Cop?

Claimed is main thing. None of these claims have been proven. We did at least however get some info.
I dont think everyone claiming is best idea, but we have a few days left. Lets make the best and get some info on who we all think to be next scummiest. My vote goes for Hippo

Check former posts for reasons.

Newsflash...no claim will be able to be proven today...unless someone claims Neo and we have a counterclaim...and then, we'd still be guessing. I'm worried about not be able to get a majority vote together again, if we move to Hippo.

[thechuck51]

We now have two VTs and a pair of Masons claimed. Four people. Is there a cap or do we go till we find our Town Doc or Cop?

I'm torn. I've been in a game where we pushed it, and exposed our doc. However, this is a bigger game, and there should be more roles to cover a doc.
If worse goes to worst, and town needs a lynch, Eldario or myself are the best options. Although, I would argue that I'm much more of an asset to town...
I guess, we could always pressure Hippo. Heck, with his questionable play I've seen in other games, we could just lynch him and call it a day (yes, I know, each game is separate...).
Although, I do wonder where Edoc went...ever since the wagon went cold on me, he's disappeared...hmmm...

Neb

I've now read this (or something similar) about Hippo multiple times so I don't think I can use his vote jumping as a basis for my vote. I also agree with IB that we don't want to risk outing any power roles so we should move towards a lynch. I believe this leaves Eldario as the best option right now just because the votes are there and there may not be enough time for another lynch to form.


unvote vote Eldario

[jonty125]

We have 3 days until deadline, and I don't think we can feasibly all turn around and get a claim and dissect it from hippo. Also, with 4 claims out, how much longer can we hold out until we hit a PR. I don't have anything against starting D2 with hippo. I say we lynch, Eldario as he's an inactive VT at worst (and if we're lucky scum fakeclaim).

[betiko]

even if we have very little time left and 4 claims, i want to give it a try on hippo. i will always have time to vote eldario back. I kind of beleive all claims so far and if we have 2-3 days left why not make them usefull.. hippo might be in his meta, it's still weird.

unvote, vote hippo

[dazza2008]

I think we have time to pressure Hippo and I think you all know why I think it is a good idea. Since this case is going again I will Vote Hippo

[thehippo8]

Well, I see no point in waiting for more votes, as I am not a power role and also a VT. My vote stays on Eldario as I don't accept his claim. I think it's interesting who is gunning for me though!!

[thehippo8]

Oh, sorry, and my character's namme is Zee.

[jonty125]

Hippo claiming at L-9!

Would you care to explain why you've claimed 7 votes early.

[betiko]

Oh, sorry, and my character's namme is Zee.

you are basically saying you are marvin gaye's daughter?

[dazza2008]

So what do we do now? That's 3 VT's claimed and 2 mason's. I think we need to lynch the scummiest of the 3 VT's. I would not be in favour of revealing anything else.

I do not like how inactive Eldario has been but for me Hippo has been the scummiest and claiming so early added to that. So I will leave my vote on him.

[jonty125]

I do not like how inactive Eldario has been but for me Hippo has been the scummiest and claiming so early added to that. So I will leave my vote on him.

Same, but I'm going to give hippo one more roll of the dice to explain his early claim; and then I'll place my vote.

[betiko]

yes i agree. hippo would be the one i'd go for the most; but anyhow time is running out and we need to lynch one of them. seems like neb is the least suspected of all 3 and that it will be hippo or eldario. my vote stays there and if things are going to slow on him and eldario has the most votes i will go on eldario again.

[Leehar]

All well and good, but mafia is far from people's priorities at the best of times, and tbh I'm not gonna beat someone up when he's admitted to having things going on in rl, and I can accede to him saying that D1 isn't really the most interesting or useful of days.
And tbh as eldario's someone who I've rarely played with, I'd prefer to have him around to provide some new comments rather than the usual suspects...

Although, I do wonder where Edoc went...ever since the wagon went cold on me, he's disappeared...hmmm...

Neb

This is another thing I'll check into tomorrow, if he has no excuse he'll be in a worse position than Eldario. Although if he does have an excuse my preferred target for the day will be Eldario. Like Neb has stated (I swear, I think I'm messing you and jg up in the two games thinking jg is also in this one claimed as VT, lol, I'm completely losing it o.o) that Eldario, at this point and time, you are literally no use to the town unless you pick up your activity. A VT that doesn't wish to work to help out the town, literally is wasted space. You won't really come up with cases if you don't care to "waste" some energy by looking through some and commenting, or commenting as we went along. Hell I'm doing a reread and full comment on 2 mafia games tomorrow. So you wanna bs me around about wasted energy? It's a game, we join to have fun, however it also requires everyone who joins participation to be fun, so don't just idle back so much. I can rip on your inactiveness all night long Eldario, but I really don't think you care if you're lynched, when you were to the point and finally claimed, you simple stated your name and role. No defense or anything. That's basically telling me and I'm pretty sure I speak for most people here when I say this part, that you don't give a shit and basically for all of us to go f*ck ourselves because you won't be assed to put in the effort. Which, in all honesty, is not someone I want to be playing with if that's all they're going to do. So like I said, if your activity doesn't pick up and no other cases come up that are VERY good. Then your butt is going to the stake bud, because I'd rather have contributers for the D2 round.

[Eldario]

I agree that hippos early claim was curious, and since he's not in any real danger at the moment anyway, vote Hippo

[Nebuchadnezer]

The mathematical probability of hitting 3 VTs and 2 masons is mind boggling. Given that Hippo is VT...I'd rather avoid his vote hopping, which could screw town in the long run. Dude changes his vote depending on which way the wind blows.

UNVOTE, VOTE thehippo

[Some7hingCLEVER]

Well, I see no point in waiting for more votes, as I am not a power role and also a VT. My vote stays on Eldario as I don't accept his claim. I think it's interesting who is gunning for me though!!

he kinda already explained why...we have three days and the votes were gonna stack up so he didnt wanna wait. the only problem i have here is that he is voting eldario who claimed vt (if im not mixing my games up) cause he doesnt except his claim? DUDE YOU CLAIMED THE SAME THING. it seems like your trying to make up balogna reasons to move the heat from you so for that .unvote vote hippo

[jonty125]

he kinda already explained why..

I know, but I was hoping for something more substantial.

[Nebuchadnezer]

Pfft...either way we're losing a townie, I believe. It's a choice of removing a townie that jumps around like a bouncy ball, or one that does absolutely nothing?

I chose bouncy ball, hoping that Eldario does something for us later...however, I think he won't...so we'll drag his dead carcass along until we get tired of him, and lynch him for no activity.

[Some7hingCLEVER]

Pfft...either way we're losing a townie, I believe. It's a choice of removing a townie that jumps around like a bouncy ball, or one that does absolutely nothing?

I chose bouncy ball, hoping that Eldario does something for us later...however, I think he won't...so we'll drag his dead carcass along until we get tired of him, and lynch him for no activity.

lol dead carcass..anyway why not get rid of the guy not doing anything instead. the guy jumping around might turn around and get his act straight.

[MoB Deadly]

unvote vote hippo - Out of the 3 VT claims, his claim is definitely the weakest, and has the highest chance of being fake.

[MoB Deadly]

But I would rather have a bouncing ball rather than a dead ball. However, this lynch for me is based on character only.

[Leehar]

Pfft...either way we're losing a townie, I believe. It's a choice of removing a townie that jumps around like a bouncy ball, or one that does absolutely nothing?

I chose bouncy ball, hoping that Eldario does something for us later...however, I think he won't...so we'll drag his dead carcass along until we get tired of him, and lynch him for no activity.

lol dead carcass..anyway why not get rid of the guy not doing anything instead. the guy jumping around might turn around and get his act straight.

The bouncing ball has never seemed to stop bouncing, while there's much less evidence about the dead one