PKMN Chap 2: Day 6(5/18)

[zimmah]

i also thought it was not the same ghostly as he replaced fircoal. i assumed he died somewhere, i was just too lazy to look it up.

[freezie]

Am I the only one who beleives Rodion (once again) gives himself more importance than needed as unclaimed than other unclaimed?

Personally, I feel that was a complete trick question sent to Kratos. Either he has reasons to switch to Rodion, or it's random. In either cases, I don't see why Rodion -shouldn't- have been there more than anyone else. Unless Rodion subtly tried to attract some attention to Kratos..Or maybe I am looking too far into it. I just fail to see the reason of such a question.

[ghostly447]

Well sorry for my inactivity, it is explained in my battle of the bulge game.

As for SG7's Question of if I had an action (asking me to confirm) you are correct in that since I found zimmah, my rival, I had no reason to try to find him any longer.

Anyways, if I am correct in clearing all of the following, here is the list (green=clear):

Shieldgenerator7
Edocsil
Some7hingclever
Eldario
Kratos644
Iron Butterfly replaced by zimmah
TA1LGUNN3R
crazymilkshake5 replaced by Rodion
jonty125
Fircoal replaced by ghostly447
Freezie

Due to time constraints, I probably missed a 1-2. I cleared myself but you dont have to go by that list if you truly doubt I am cleared as a survivor (with no effects now!).

I will probably try to dig something up on TailGunner since I was getting vibes from him earlier (And personally, I feel that my thoughts on VS and SW werent half bad, though it resulted in Kratos and PCM also being thrown on the list. Plus I found my rival, so by towns count that is 2:5, for me its 3:5). So if I actually get time tonight, that is what I will do, and since there are 18 players I will go ahead and assume we are looking for the following:
1-2 more mafia
1 SK??

My list is:
TailGunner
*More to come*

If others have claimed, please let me know because I want to get my list together soonish.

[Some7hingCLEVER]

Well sorry for my inactivity, it is explained in my battle of the bulge game.

As for SG7's Question of if I had an action (asking me to confirm) you are correct in that since I found zimmah, my rival, I had no reason to try to find him any longer.

Anyways, if I am correct in clearing all of the following, here is the list (green=clear):

Shieldgenerator7
Edocsil
Some7hingclever
Eldario
Kratos644
Iron Butterfly replaced by zimmah
TA1LGUNN3R
crazymilkshake5 replaced by Rodion
jonty125
Fircoal replaced by ghostly447
Freezie

Due to time constraints, I probably missed a 1-2. I cleared myself but you dont have to go by that list if you truly doubt I am cleared as a survivor (with no effects now!).

I will probably try to dig something up on TailGunner since I was getting vibes from him earlier (And personally, I feel that my thoughts on VS and SW werent half bad, though it resulted in Kratos and PCM also being thrown on the list. Plus I found my rival, so by towns count that is 2:5, for me its 3:5). So if I actually get time tonight, that is what I will do, and since there are 18 players I will go ahead and assume we are looking for the following:
1-2 more mafia
1 SK??

My list is:
TailGunner
*More to come*

If others have claimed, please let me know because I want to get my list together soonish.

am i not cleared?

[ghostly447]

Well sorry for my inactivity, it is explained in my battle of the bulge game.

As for SG7's Question of if I had an action (asking me to confirm) you are correct in that since I found zimmah, my rival, I had no reason to try to find him any longer.

Anyways, if I am correct in clearing all of the following, here is the list (green=clear):

Shieldgenerator7
Edocsil
Some7hingclever
Eldario
Kratos644
Iron Butterfly replaced by zimmah
TA1LGUNN3R
crazymilkshake5 replaced by Rodion
jonty125
Fircoal replaced by ghostly447
Freezie

Due to time constraints, I probably missed a 1-2. I cleared myself but you dont have to go by that list if you truly doubt I am cleared as a survivor (with no effects now!).

I will probably try to dig something up on TailGunner since I was getting vibes from him earlier (And personally, I feel that my thoughts on VS and SW werent half bad, though it resulted in Kratos and PCM also being thrown on the list. Plus I found my rival, so by towns count that is 2:5, for me its 3:5). So if I actually get time tonight, that is what I will do, and since there are 18 players I will go ahead and assume we are looking for the following:
1-2 more mafia
1 SK??

My list is:
TailGunner
*More to come*

If others have claimed, please let me know because I want to get my list together soonish.

am i not cleared?

Couldnt remember if you claimed but now I remember that you started the clusterfuck that was yesterday with your claim. haha list modified.

[Some7hingCLEVER]

yay.

[TA1LGUNN3R]

Then I do not understand your question towards kratos. By your logic I was a target at night, and if you are unclaimed you are a standard target for the second half of a busdrive. I do agree however with your suspicion of Zimmah. With Replacement Meta he should know the truth of ghostly, which makes me too wonder why he would FoS.

Vote Zimmah.

idk he straight up didn't believe Strike's claim, even before you were forced to claim, edoc.

-Tails

[zimmah]

as of this moment i am pretty sure ghostly and edoc are who they say they are.

[jonty125]

as of this moment i am pretty sure ghostly and edoc are who they say they are.

I'll agree about edoc, but I'm not 100% on ghostly, just a twinge, no evidence. (maybe it's just my general suspicions/hatred of survivor or 3rd party claims)

[edocsil]

This game needs a bit of love. Ordinarily I would just go look this up, but we need something to talk about anyhow.

What is the setup here? I am town and a pokemon, There is a dead townie who was human, there is a human scum pokemon trainer running around, are cop is human. Are humans able to recruit pokemon? One, or many? "Date" was bolded, and the machoke was not, but both ff0000 color code. Does that difference mean anything? What were the mechanics of the first game, likely we can meta some of the scenario for this game from that.

[jonty125]

First game there were load of recruitable 3rd party pokemons and my v2.0 won Here is the link to the game click here

Anyhow,

[jonty125]

First game there were load of recruitable 3rd party pokemons and my v2.0 won Here is the link to the game click here

EBWOP

[edocsil]

So to answer my question, the setup is different this time.

[Some7hingCLEVER]

So to answer my question, the setup is different this time.

probably

[jonty125]

So to answer my question, the setup is different this time.

Sorry, forgot to round off my post.

[Rodion]

Vote Zimmah.

idk he straight up didn't believe Strike's claim, even before you were forced to claim, edoc.

-Tails

What is that supposed to mean? That Zimmah should be perceived as town because he was right about Strike? Because that does not make sense.

In fact, with everyone being inactive (Yoshi, mass prod, please!), the biggest D3 scumtell is Zimmah FOSing Ghostly.

FOS ghostly.

This is interesting consider your former role was "feuded" and Ghostly claimed "feuded". Do you think he is not the "feuded" guy? Or do you think the "feuded guy" is more than "just a survivor"?

oh, i just forgot that part.

i also thought it was not the same ghostly as he replaced fircoal. i assumed he died somewhere, i was just too lazy to look it up.

Wait, how could you forget while also thinking it was a different Ghostly?

Either you forgot Ghostly was your lyncher/survivor or you remembered it but then thought this was another Ghostly.

Vote Zimmah.

[DoomYoshi]

Tuesday night mass prod.

Zinmah (2) - Rodion, edoc

[zimmah]

Vote Zimmah.

idk he straight up didn't believe Strike's claim, even before you were forced to claim, edoc.

-Tails

What is that supposed to mean? That Zimmah should be perceived as town because he was right about Strike? Because that does not make sense.

In fact, with everyone being inactive (Yoshi, mass prod, please!), the biggest D3 scumtell is Zimmah FOSing Ghostly.

FOS ghostly.

This is interesting consider your former role was "feuded" and Ghostly claimed "feuded". Do you think he is not the "feuded" guy? Or do you think the "feuded guy" is more than "just a survivor"?

oh, i just forgot that part.

i also thought it was not the same ghostly as he replaced fircoal. i assumed he died somewhere, i was just too lazy to look it up.

Wait, how could you forget while also thinking it was a different Ghostly?

Either you forgot Ghostly was your lyncher/survivor or you remembered it but then thought this was another Ghostly.

Vote Zimmah.

trust me, you're watsing your time on me. i made a mistake and i didn't lie about it.

[TA1LGUNN3R]

What is that supposed to mean? That Zimmah should be perceived as town because he was right about Strike? Because that does not make sense.

In fact, with everyone being inactive (Yoshi, mass prod, please!), the biggest D3 scumtell is Zimmah FOSing Ghostly.

This statement really doesn't make any sense. You're attributing two conflicting tells to zimmah.

-Tails

[Eldario]

sorry for my absence, my final presentation is coming up next week, so I really need to focus on that for now

[shieldgenerator7]

So from what we've gathered from our claimed roles:

PCM is town (duh)
flavor cop found an electric pokemon (please be pikachu ) but won't tell who it is
busdriver busdrove edoc and rodion (kratos you missed my question: did it work / did you find out if Rodion is a pokemon?)
And the survivor of course did not nothing but survive.

Also from the fact an evolution of machop died as mafia and another evolution of machop died as town, that means the same pokemon might be in here twice. Which means this will make it easier for mafia to fakeclaim, because saying "You can't be mankey! I'm mankey!" will be an invalid argument because it has been shown pokemon can be repeated.
Altho, since one was mafia it might suggest that one of the duplicated claimed pokemon are mafia, which will be helpful.

-SG7 ( )

[kratos644]

So from what we've gathered from our claimed roles:

PCM is town (duh)
flavor cop found an electric pokemon (please be pikachu ) but won't tell who it is
busdriver busdrove edoc and rodion (kratos you missed my question: did it work / did you find out if Rodion is a pokemon?)
And the survivor of course did not nothing but survive.

Also from the fact an evolution of machop died as mafia and another evolution of machop died as town, that means the same pokemon might be in here twice. Which means this will make it easier for mafia to fakeclaim, because saying "You can't be mankey! I'm mankey!" will be an invalid argument because it has been shown pokemon can be repeated.
Altho, since one was mafia it might suggest that one of the duplicated claimed pokemon are mafia, which will be helpful.

-SG7 ( )

After the original mix-up of things where doom didn't provide me with all the information of my role he then changed my role so that I can bus drive anyone so yes it would've gone through but that no longer gives any information on whether or not someone is pokemon.

[shieldgenerator7]

Ok, well then Rodion could be pokemon or trainer then. NVM

[Rodion]

trust me, you're watsing your time on me. i made a mistake and i didn't lie about it.

Can you suggest a better target to land my vote on?

What is that supposed to mean? That Zimmah should be perceived as town because he was right about Strike? Because that does not make sense.

In fact, with everyone being inactive (Yoshi, mass prod, please!), the biggest D3 scumtell is Zimmah FOSing Ghostly.

This statement really doesn't make any sense. You're attributing two conflicting tells to zimmah.

-Tails

Please elaborate. Are you talking about him being right towards Strike and wrong towards Ghostly? Would those be the "conflicting tells"?

[TA1LGUNN3R]

Please elaborate. Are you talking about him being right towards Strike and wrong towards Ghostly? Would those be the "conflicting tells"?

Yes. You're asserting that zimmah is scum, so that means you're also asserting that he had the wherewithal to align himself with edoc, and didn't join his scummate in wrangling a claim out of edoc with strike's fakeclaim. He immediately said:

so everyone just believe strike wolf without question?

i don't

after edoc accumulated four votes in rapid succession post strike's claim. Okay, fine, he had the foresight to do this. Yet he flubs on a case of mistaken identity?

imo it's more likely that you're making this into more than it is. I give props to Strike for getting edoc to claim, because I'm surprised nobody smelled through the bullshit earlier. I think zimmah recognized that it was a shit claim, and he's being truthful about mixing up ghostly's replacement. Honestly, I'm not too sure what you're trying to prove with the case anyway. In your own words:

Precisely. If that is correct, Zimmah should have no reason to FOS Ghostly as he "knows" he is just a survivor. That's what intrigues me.

What does ghostly stand to make with lynching the survivor? From what I understand, ghostly already got part of his WC out of the way by killing zimmah v.1. I think in this instance Occam's Razor applies, and it's much more reasonable to assume that zimmah fosed somebody because of mistaken identity than an outlandish attempt to lynch a survivor.

-Tails