Mad Men Mafia - Day 2 (6/9) Town Wins!

[Yomiel]

You said you found him suspicious or whatever, so I asked why you did not vote for him and suggested you do so, just like how you've made a big deal out of ME thinking he was suspicious and not voting for him immediately.

I'm not interested in Vodean's claim all that much. As I pointed out earlier, people can, and often do, lie. If he says he's the Cop, and then the real Cop reveals this is false, sure, we probably kill a Mafia, but odds are the Cop is going to die that Night.

[DiM]

this is clearly how mafia would act.

or a troll.
that's why i'd rather see you replaced than lynched.

[DiM]

I'm not interested in Vodean's claim all that much. As I pointed out earlier, people can, and often do, lie. If he says he's the Cop, and then the real Cop reveals this is false, sure, we probably kill a Mafia, but odds are the Cop is going to die that Night.

if the town reveals and lynches a mafia during the day at the cost of losing the cop during the night then that's an awesome deal for the town. not to mention the town might also have a doctor that could protect to cop.
so your logic is really faulty.

if you're town, the point is to gather as much info as possible and make each lynch count. that's why people are asked to claim, because the claim brings info.

on the other hand if you're mafia, then you want to prevent the town from getting any info so you rush the lynch and try as much as possible to no give people the chance to claim.

guess where your actions fit.

[Yomiel]

My logic is not faulty. Losing the Cop in a game with so few power roles would be horrible, and I've already pointed out that the claim could easily be a lie for either.

It's already been established that I always try to move things along in games, and I've already died in two games where I've done this, upon which I was revealed to be Town. It is my play style, not a good reason for a lynch.

[DiM]

I've already died in two games where I've done this, upon which I was revealed to be Town. It is my play style, not a good reason for a lynch.

and this is precisely why i asked for your replacement.
if you're knowingly willing to get lynched and screw over town even though you are given plenty of chances and reasoning to not do so, then you're nothing but a troll, or a poor player or whatever.

[Yomiel]

I'm not willing to be lynched. You're the one trying to lynch me, even though you know this is how I play. So, you're basically admitting, just as you did earlier, that you're really only lynching me because you want me out of the game, not because you truly think I'm Mafia. That shows that you are the one being a poor player, as does how you ignore what everyone of us has said.

[DiM]

I'm not willing to be lynched.

you could have fooled me.

You're the one trying to lynch me, even though you know this is how I play.

i'm trying to force some info out of you not lynch you. but i'm willing to take it all the way to lynching if your suspicious behaviour continues.

So, you're basically admitting, just as you did earlier, that you're really only lynching me because you want me out of the game, not because you truly think I'm Mafia. That shows that you are the one being a poor player, as does how you ignore what everyone of us has said.

as i said before i trully think you're either mafia or a troll.
your actions indicate this and i've already explained several times how only a mafia/troll would not care about info and rush a lynch and when confronted would refuse to claim.

also i've repeatedly said i'd rather see you replaced than lynched.

i'm still tending towards you being a troll. past experience tells me this.

[Yomiel]

Everything you say only proves that you just want to lynch me because of who I am, not because you think I'm Mafia. Trying to make up excuses won't hide that, especially when you've flat-out said it. I could lie and claim any role, but I'm not one for fake claims.

[DiM]

Everything you say only proves that you just want to lynch me because of who I am, not because you think I'm Mafia. Trying to make up excuses won't hide that, especially when you've flat-out said it. I could lie and claim any role, but I'm not one for fake claims.

lol, you're really getting rather boring here mate. i actually get amused confronting trolls but i prefer intelligent ones. you just keep yapping and yapping and repeating the same old thing over and over. it's not really fun anymore. try to bring some smarts into your trolling because so far you're failing hard and you're whole tactics could hardly be considered intelligent even for a 10 year old.
seriously try harder because right now you're stuck at "nuh-uh, i'm right and you're wrong, cause i said so and you're a big mean bully"

So, you're basically admitting, just as you did earlier, that you're really only lynching me because you want me out of the game, not because you truly think I'm Mafia.

also i'm not admitting now nor have i admitted this before because it truly isn't real.

but obviously you fail to see this just like you fail to brink any proof to my so called lies.
all you do is bitch and complain and say that people are out to get you. when asked for logical reasoning you either say you have a hunch or that you're going with what you believe in and ultimately when confronted you start claiming people are instigating or that they're mafia or that there's some sort of conspiracy.

[Yomiel]

I hope people are getting wise now. Dim is just not listening to a word I'm saying , despite all his demands.

[DiM]

[Yomiel]

Maybe someone should ask the host about replacing you, not me...

[DiM]

Maybe someone should ask the host about replacing you, not me...

i supposed that if the person replacing me unvotes you and leaves you alone you'll no longer consider him mafia right?

and what happens then? you'll consider mafia the next person that votes for you? perhaps get him/her replaced to?

perhaps you'd like to repeat the process until the game is filled with people that never even think about lynching you? or that isn't enough? perhaps they shouldn't even dare ask for reasonable explanations and just "trust your instincts, hunches and beliefs" and do everything you say? would that be better?

i recommend sock puppets and a toy tea table. you can sit them around and even do various voices for them. they'll be obedient and never question you.



the one on the left is vodean. he's breathing fire so he's surely a mafia.

[Campin_Killer]

https://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=213&t=173973&start=60

You can see Campin and Vodean's votes on that page. Vodean's makes no sense, as I had no reason to defend myself at that point, with only one serious vote and no real comment with it. I've already said why the whole rush claim is not valid, since you can look at any thread, including ones where I've been Town, and see me trying to move things along.

Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't know I hade made you my lawyer to present cases to everyone else instead of me

I'll make a case tonight, I'm at the beach, and probably won't get around to it this morning.

[Yomiel]

Unlike you keep trying to claim, Dim, there is plenty of evidence showing I do NOT accuse people of being Mafia just for targeting me. You just stole that idea from another thread, after I mentioned how the MafiaScum people loved to harass me by doing the same thing. Nothing supports that, and it's playing poorly to just keep saying that instead of making a real case or defense. Further proof is in the fact that I haven't labelled everywhere as Mafia.

I don't know what would happen if you are replaced. I think you are Mafia, but that doesn't mean you are. And I think you are because of how you act. A different person is likely to act a different way.

/, do you still not agree with me about Dim?

[DiM]

fun fact of the day.
after getting lynched on 2 other games for acting exactly how he's acting here people are asking yomiel to be modkilled in another game for being intentionally obnoxious.

at least i'm asking for you to be replaced not modkilled

@yomiel. constantly asking / to agree with you smells a lot like desperation and grasping at straws. if your reasoning is sound and she agrees with you, then she'll say so. there's no need to keep asking her to do it

[Yomiel]

I only recall being lynched in one game, and the Town ended up being wrong. Also, stop talking about other games outside of their threads.

And you're trying to get my lynched, which would hurt the Town. You're doing it for personal reasons, clearly, yet trying to make it seem like you're not. This is Mafia-like behavior. When / tried to get you to post that stuff, you refused, and just kept insulting me, making up lies, and so fourth.

[DiM]

I only recall being lynched in one game, and the Town ended up being wrong.

and what does that tell you?
you were town, you were close to being lynched and despite everybody telling you to claim and save yourself you chose to be lynched. you were told a doc would protect you from mafia but you still refused to claim.
thus you willingly hurt town.

Also, stop talking about other games outside of their threads.

i've already told you before, it is called meta and it is an important part of playing mafia games, at least around here. like it or not whatever actions you do in a game have repercussion in all your games.

And you're trying to get my lynched, which would hurt the Town. You're doing it for personal reasons, clearly, yet trying to make it seem like you're not. This is Mafia-like behavior.

clearly personal reasons, it's not like i posted proof and logical reasoning several times. oh i forgot you ignore anything against you and keep shouting "nuh-uh, i'm right and you're wrong, cause i said so and you're a big mean bully"

When / tried to get you to post that stuff, you refused,

oh i refused? really? i remember posting here.
but you ignored me so i pointed you to that post in another message and then you ignored it again so i pointed it out for you in yet another message.

and just kept insulting me, making up lies, and so fourth.

making up lies? really?
how about you tell me what those lies are. and then come up with actual proof that they are lies.
oh and just to make sure we're on the same level saying things like "trust me they are lies" is not considered proof.


looking forward to your next post. hopefully it will no longer be: "nuh-uh, i'm right and you're wrong, cause i said so and you're a big mean bully"

[DiM]

btw i'd just like to note, for the record, that this is the 3rd (or maybe 4th) time i ask you to bring forth evidence of my lies.
obviously you haven't delivered that evidence so far.

[Yomiel]

It was one game. The Town lynched me by mistake. It happens. It doesn't say anything. I can't go into details about why I didn't claim, because the game is still ongoing. But as I said in that thread during the game, a doctor COULDN'T protect me. It would be most useful for the Town if I did not claim, and if they wouldn't have killed me, they would have stood a better chance of winning. But again, stop talking about it.

You did not post any real reasons beyond me rushing things along, and it was already established that is how I play, so you know that does not show I'm Mafia. You've said and indicated repeatedly you are only trying to get me lynched because you want me out of the game.

And I have provided evidence of your lies already, as well as shown examples of what those lies are. You are pulling the same stunt as a certain other player in another thread, by trying to make me look bad-claiming that I didn't provide you with what you want and trying to get people to stop focusing on the game.

[DiM]

And I have provided evidence of your lies already, as well as shown examples of what those lies are.

oh really? could you show me that evidence and those examples?
just point me to the post where you wrote all that.

[Yomiel]

Again, as with that other person, you can play your games alone.

[DiM]

so you're not providing any evidence after all. instead you're acting even more childishly than before (hard to think it possible)

big wooping surprise

[Yomiel]

I think we should be focused on lynching Dim instead. If you really read his posts, he is not playing at all. I'm getting tired of playing his games, and he is really acting like Mafia. He just keeps spinning his web of lies, while ignoring what everyone else is saying, unless it's something he feels he can make fun of or twist around.

[DiM]

I think we should be focused on lynching Dim instead. If you really read his posts, he is not playing at all. I'm getting tired of playing his games, and he is really acting like Mafia. He just keeps spinning his web of lies, while ignoring what everyone else is saying, unless it's something he feels he can make fun of or twist around.

so let me get this straight. you want people to lynch me, not get a claim or some info, but rather just lynch me. great.
you also want them to lynch me because you say i'm acting like mafia, they should just trust your instincts, right? no need for proof or logical reasoning. those are for sissies.
as for my lies they're so many now they're transformed into a web. that's probably why you won't tell me what those lies are or show me evidence that they really are lies. they're just so many you can't possibly write about them all.

i admit you caught me.