Rolegift Mafia 2 Endgame: Give 'til it Hurts

[spiesr]

I still have no idea who gifted me.O_O

Why would you expect to?

[Rodion]

Why can't there simply be a dud gift? Or someone who is able to block/switch gifts in a similar manner to jak?

Once all 19 gifts are known, we'll be able to define that.

Or that someone is unable to receive gifts? I hate when people say things like X or Y is scum, (or even worse break it into percentages like it means jack shit) based on pure speculation.

The percentages were merely used to show the cop claims made Jak and LSU equally scummy (or non-scummy). It's a simple logical proposition, really.

Personally I think Rodion smells of BS, and is likely to have something to do with this problem and will try get us lynched one by one till we find the "guilty" party.

Let me put it this way: if after all 19 gifts are known we get no confirmation of another gift-altering mechanic (such as Safari's) and LSU flipped town, I'll not rest until I find the scum among Jak, Spiesr and you. That's how this specific game is meant to be played: by crossing information until we find lies and then narrowing the scope until scum is caught.

And everyone may rest assured I have nothing to do with this gift shenanigan between the 4 of you: I already know what my gift does and everyone else will know when you see it appear twice tomorrow.

Even though you're one of the two I suspect of us 4, I was about to go on a rant on Rodion for just 'popping' in at the right time AFTER LSU was lynched, but you and Spiesr fastposted me, so I was like, what the hell, he summed it up in a nicer tone than I wrote it in.

By all means you should have ranted, then, because neither PMC nor Spiesr mentioned anything about my "timing". In fact, I'm about to rant right now.

As far as timing goes, I can only call you guys a bunch of retards. No, really. I was the guy stating we had to frigging WAIT until Milkshake claimed so we could talk more (at least one player in the game had a lot to say after all claims were laid out) and then decide a lynch. In fact, my vote is on the guy that tried to RUSH things while I told you to WAIT (I'm talking about derpYomiel). So you guys derpvote LSU to L-2 and he derpdoublevotelynches himself (assuming he is town and not mafia trying to end the day prematurely) while I'm away and you blame MY FUCKING TIMING?

24 cents short of a quarter, dude.

Anyway, I'm making cases from my point of view, sure there are other point of views, but I'm going off of what -I- know happened and didn't happen. For me there are two suspects, for others there may be 3-4.

Except that your point of view cannot clear spiesr unless you have hidden knowledge. I already explained what tracker implies, but you seemed to skim it.

Personally I think tomorrow if the two cops reclaim their 'item' we may be able to catch ANOTHER mafia if Yomiel or PMC lied about having the 8-ball.

As for my vote on LSU when I had 2/3 chance for PMC AFTER the lynch (Note: AFTER) it was to test two birds with one stone (sanity thing)... Actually, I think we may be able to bust a few claims if everyone restates the items each day (Obviously if there's a change in the item to the role... someone's lying). I find it funny that Rodion picked out a chance thing I made after the lynch. It's like he expects me to have it beforehand when I only thought of it afterward. Can't tell me that you don't think of stuff as you go. So that's a hypocrite move bud.

Well, you posted when LSU was L-3, so you did have a chance to reckon the situation. You didn't. Don't worry, though, as that does not necessarily make you scum. The other alternative is just that you are not too bright, which was what I was going for with the clapping emoticons. But, hey, it's not like I expected you to understand that without any help.

[Yomiel]

A lot of people have said who they gifted.

[Rodion]

A lot of people have said who they gifted.

Ironically, all of those who have said that seem to be caught in a web of lies (which does not mean they are all liars).

[everywhere116]

A lot of people have said who they gifted.

By my charts, only 3 people have done so, and one just got lynched.

[spiesr]

A lot of people have said who they gifted.

We aren't trying to figure out who gifts what. (Publicly) Of those who claimed who they gifted: LSU did so because he was going to be lynched, pmchugh did so because he it reveals that something is wrong with the information at the time, and I don't know what Jak was thinking...

[LSU Tiger Josh]

By all means you should have ranted, then, because neither PMC nor Spiesr mentioned anything about my "timing". In fact, I'm about to rant right now.

As far as timing goes, I can only call you guys a bunch of retards. No, really. I was the guy stating we had to frigging WAIT until Milkshake claimed so we could talk more (at least one player in the game had a lot to say after all claims were laid out) and then decide a lynch. In fact, my vote is on the guy that tried to RUSH things while I told you to WAIT (I'm talking about derpYomiel). So you guys derpvote LSU to L-2 and he derpdoublevotelynches himself (assuming he is town and not mafia trying to end the day prematurely) while I'm away and you blame MY FUCKING TIMING?

Crazy seems to be away Rodion and with a missing gift, I'm fine with dying at this point to go ahead and point out that one of the other 2 lied. I was not enjoying the game that much since it was just a broken record on people wanting to lynch me just b/c yomiel claims to have received a cop gift when in reality we have no idea if anyone other than the dead are really town or not. Sheeple were following it like it was completely trustworthy and I got sick of just reading and didn't feel like seeing Forrest Gump keep posting to lynch me already since it was obvious I was going to be the one lynched no matter how retarded the reasoning was. At least this way it should prove one person to be a liar to get lynched instead of just finding out cop is just a random guilty or not guilty or even better paranoid. Also didn't realize it was quite that many votes to cause the lynch already. thought it still needed a couple more after me. Rest of yall good game and see yall in other games with the one exception.

[pmchugh]

Can someone please explain to me why anyone would lie about the role gifting?

Also I am confused. Jak were you gifted the gift steal?

[jak111]

Personally I think tomorrow if the two cops reclaim their 'item' we may be able to catch ANOTHER mafia if Yomiel or PMC lied about having the 8-ball.

If Yomiel lied then LSU won't be scum.

Actually, I think we may be able to bust a few claims if everyone restates the items each day (Obviously if there's a change in the item to the role... someone's lying).

That's only been the plan the entire time.

Haha.. herp derp? I'm not that quick to catch onto everything. Got more in my mind in than this game, but at least I caught on by the end of D2....

A lot of people have said who they gifted.

We aren't trying to figure out who gifts what. (Publicly) Of those who claimed who they gifted: LSU did so because he was going to be lynched, pmchugh did so because he it reveals that something is wrong with the information at the time, and I don't know what Jak was thinking...

By all means you should have ranted, then, because neither PMC nor Spiesr mentioned anything about my "timing". In fact, I'm about to rant right now.

As far as timing goes, I can only call you guys a bunch of retards. No, really. I was the guy stating we had to frigging WAIT until Milkshake claimed so we could talk more (at least one player in the game had a lot to say after all claims were laid out) and then decide a lynch. In fact, my vote is on the guy that tried to RUSH things while I told you to WAIT (I'm talking about derpYomiel). So you guys derpvote LSU to L-2 and he derpdoublevotelynches himself (assuming he is town and not mafia trying to end the day prematurely) while I'm away and you blame MY FUCKING TIMING?

Crazy seems to be away Rodion and with a missing gift, I'm fine with dying at this point to go ahead and point out that one of the other 2 lied. I was not enjoying the game that much since it was just a broken record on people wanting to lynch me just b/c yomiel claims to have received a cop gift when in reality we have no idea if anyone other than the dead are really town or not. Sheeple were following it like it was completely trustworthy and I got sick of just reading and didn't feel like seeing Forrest Gump keep posting to lynch me already since it was obvious I was going to be the one lynched no matter how retarded the reasoning was. At least this way it should prove one person to be a liar to get lynched instead of just finding out cop is just a random guilty or not guilty or even better paranoid. Also didn't realize it was quite that many votes to cause the lynch already. thought it still needed a couple more after me. Rest of yall good game and see yall in other games with the one exception.

While I don't think you should have lynched yourself (I mean obviously you're gonna pop town now XD), but I get your reasoning. I just hope we have more to work with or that I had gotten something... more... out of my investigation >.<

[jak111]

Can someone please explain to me why anyone would lie about the role gifting?

Also I am confused. Jak were you gifted the gift steal?

Umm... we covered this like a million times... Yea, I was gifted it. I stole TWO gifts from a random 1-3.

[Yomiel]

Do we need to replace the replacement? I can't help but think so, as he'd even kind of abandoned his own Mafia, which is unofficially on hiatus. But I guess only the host can decide.

[crazymilkshake5]

the reason of why i hadnt posted yet was because i needed to clear up some things with the mod.

[Campin_Killer]

the mod, or the bastard mod?

[everywhere116]

the reason of why i hadnt posted yet was because i needed to clear up some things with the mod.

Do you have all your info yet? Is there a reason you can't tell us now, before the lynch is finalized?

[Yomiel]

Any specific idea when today Night will begin?

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I'm entering all the stuff into my spreadsheet now, the death should go up in less than an hour if my estimation stills are still functioning.

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The town gathered around LSU, chanting ominously.
"The magic eight ball demands your death" They repeated in unison.
"Oh, does it now?" asked LSU, "Well let's just ask it again!" he exclaims as he produces a ball from his sack. *snicker*
"Oh magic eight ball, should I lynch myself?" beseeches LSU as he shakes the mystical billiards ball
The die inside rolls it’s die, like the rolling of a sarcastic person’s eye that was just asked a stupid question.
It's response " I dunno"
Betrayed by the one source he trusted, LSU promptly jumped off of the nearest overpass, breaking his bones and breaking his balls on the way down.

LSU Tiger Josh Town Cop Gifter has been lynched

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All gifts have been sent, you have until friday to use them, night 2 begins

[spiesr]

LSU Tiger Josh Town Cop Gifter has been lynched

Should we consider "Cop Gifter" to mean "Sane Cop" or "Cop of unknown sanity"?

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LSU Tiger Josh Town Cop Gifter has been lynched

Should we consider "Cop Gifter" to mean "Sane Cop" or "Cop of unknown sanity"?

Niether, I am not implying that any other cop power exists.

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Announcement, I apparently messed up one action night one, LSU gifted to pmc, not pancake, my bad, I do not have the PM in question, but have been requested to post this for balance.

[jak111]

Announcement, I apparently messed up one action night one, LSU gifted to pmc, not pancake, my bad, I do not have the PM in question, but have been requested to post this for balance.

So.. it was a mod error. Thanks for clearing that up now XD I will hush for the night, but just replying to this is LOL

[Yomiel]

The host is breaking the fourth wall.: P I told you those two having similar names was going to lead to tragedy.

[Rodion]

Announcement, I apparently messed up one action night one, LSU gifted to pmc, not pancake, my bad, I do not have the PM in question, but have been requested to post this for balance.

Please clarify.

Pancakemix did claim a cop investigation. Are you saying LSU meant to send that to Pmchugh and you sent it to Pancakemix by accident?

[jak111]

Announcement, I apparently messed up one action night one, LSU gifted to pmc, not pancake, my bad, I do not have the PM in question, but have been requested to post this for balance.

Please clarify.

Pancakemix did claim a cop investigation. Are you saying LSU meant to send that to Pmchugh and you sent it to Pancakemix by accident?

That's exactly like he's saying. I do believe you're the one whom mentioned about people not being so bright?