would you get married for 1,000 years

[AndyDufresne]

What if i told you he was over 300 years old?

I wouldn't buy it. Mostly because a 300 year old couldn't sport such a rockin' hat.

Or would they, just to throw you off? Dun dun dun!


--Andy

[daddy1gringo]

Now I have to remind myself first of all that a lot of this is in jest, and second that a lot of you are really young and just don’t know any better, but Good Lord how dismal. It’s no wonder the freaking divorce rate is doing a Saturn 5. Nobody has any freaking clue what marriage is.

I’ve been waiting for Woodruff, or perhaps someone else to chime in so people don’t just say “Yeah right, that’s just your Christian propaganda,” but unless I’ve badly misread things from his posts I’m sure he will corroborate a lot of this.

Later this month I will be married (to the same woman) for 23 years, so I know what I am talking about, and I would absolutely marry her for 1000, or more. Our marriage is a process of becoming one, body soul, and spirit, and getting to know each other and ourselves more and more intimately, and it is an adventure. Our marriage, including but not limited to sex is continually made new because our relationship is always evolving: growing and deepening.

Sure life, including sex, goes through dry spells when everything is routine, but those dry spells are where you exercise your commitment to each other that just causes you to respect and trust one another more. You hang onto each other, and the fire comes back, better than ever. If it doesn’t come back soon enough, you take steps to bring it back.

I think I’ll stop there for now. By the way, my 16-year-old read the thread and said, “These people are stupid. If you are marrying for life and it’s only 40 years, then you’re dead anyway.” Smart kid.

[natty dread]

Nobody has any freaking clue what marriage is.

Says the guy who thinks marriage is defined by a supernatural entity.

[Haggis_McMutton]

Now I have to remind myself first of all that a lot of this is in jest, and second that a lot of you are really young and just don’t know any better, but Good Lord how dismal. It’s no wonder the freaking divorce rate is doing a Saturn 5. Nobody has any freaking clue what marriage is.

I’ve been waiting for Woodruff, or perhaps someone else to chime in so people don’t just say “Yeah right, that’s just your Christian propaganda,” but unless I’ve badly misread things from his posts I’m sure he will corroborate a lot of this.

Later this month I will be married (to the same woman) for 23 years, so I know what I am talking about, and I would absolutely marry her for 1000, or more. Our marriage is a process of becoming one, body soul, and spirit, and getting to know each other and ourselves more and more intimately, and it is an adventure. Our marriage, including but not limited to sex is continually made new because our relationship is always evolving: growing and deepening.

Sure life, including sex, goes through dry spells when everything is routine, but those dry spells are where you exercise your commitment to each other that just causes you to respect and trust one another more. You hang onto each other, and the fire comes back, better than ever. If it doesn’t come back soon enough, you take steps to bring it back.

I think I’ll stop there for now. By the way, my 16-year-old read the thread and said, “These people are stupid. If you are marrying for life and it’s only 40 years, then you’re dead anyway.” Smart kid.

Well, it's great that it works for you.
This does not mean however that it could work for everyone.

[heavycola]

Sure life, including sex, goes through dry spells

On a more serious note - dude if you really do look like aragorn then it's no surprise your marriage works. Hell, I"d marry you. Maybe not for 1,00 years though - maybe like 200.

[yang guize]

why would anyone get married? all it means is having children and some stupid woman barking in your ear about paying for everything.

if you get married then when your wife gets old and boring you have to put up with her. if you keep concubines then you just throw them away when they're older than 25 and get some new ones.

[BigBallinStalin]

Does every land owner in China have a concubine? Or were both land owners and concubines exterminated when the Maoists took over?

[daddy1gringo]

Well, welcome back heavycolon, I noticed you have started posting again after a long absence (or should I say "long dry spell"?) You were missed.

Sure life, including sex, goes through dry spells

OK, I asked for that one. "Dry spells" was redundant anyway; I should've just said "goes through times when everything is routine...".

On a more serious note - dude if you really do look like aragorn then it's no surprise your marriage works. Hell, I"d marry you. Maybe not for 1,00 years though - maybe like 200.

Nah, the 2 times anybody has commented on an actual picture of me on the internet and compared me to someone, it has been "Qui-gon" and "Steve Jobs", both of whom are better-looking than I am, but dead (so presumably not so good-looking anymore). (No, Liam Neeson isn't dead, but Qui-gon is. Gimme a break.)

On the "living to 1000" thing, that's a fallacy. The average lifespan is increasing, largely due to the decrease in infant mortality (you remove all those really low numbers and of course the average goes up) but people don't live to be significantly older than they used to, just more people live to be that old, raising the average. The oldest still don't make it past 120 or 130 or so. There were people in the middle ages who lived that long, according to parish records, which historians consider more or less reliable, just, as I said, not as many as today.

Nobody has any freaking clue what marriage is.

Says the guy who thinks marriage is defined by a supernatural entity.

I said nothing about a "supernatural entity" here, and the very next thing I said after what you quoted is that even people who don't believe in God, but who have a healthy idea of what marriage is would agree with me.

Are you indeed so bigoted that you reject sound advice from someone just because they are a Christian? How liberal and open-minded of you. My concept works, and beautifully, how's yours doin'?

Well, it's great that it works for you.
This does not mean however that it could work for everyone.

Thanks for a respectful and reasoned disagreement.

Anyway, that's my point: marriage, as apparently most people view it today, doesn't "work". What causes it to "work" is, as a non-Christian that I mentioned said in another thread, putting in the "work" to put one's partner and the new entity that is the marriage above one's selfish, short-term interest. The result is that you get all the good things that you didn't put first -- great sex and companionship that is satisfying to you -- along with the ones that you did put first. (I could give clear Biblical references to this principle, but then I'd risk turning off certain people)

[daddy1gringo]

why would anyone get married? all it means is having children and some stupid woman barking in your ear about paying for everything.

if you get married then when your wife gets old and boring you have to put up with her. if you keep concubines then you just throw them away when they're older than 25 and get some new ones.

See my first post.

[Bleed_Green]

Life sentence is Canada is 25 years and that is what I told my wife prior to saying our vows.. Will let her know after 25 if I want to opt for a 25 more or take the parol

[Haggis_McMutton]

Well, it's great that it works for you.
This does not mean however that it could work for everyone.

Thanks for a respectful and reasoned disagreement.

Anyway, that's my point: marriage, as apparently most people view it today, doesn't "work". What causes it to "work" is, as a non-Christian that I mentioned said in another thread, putting in the "work" to put one's partner and the new entity that is the marriage above one's selfish, short-term interest. The result is that you get all the good things that you didn't put first -- great sex and companionship that is satisfying to you -- along with the ones that you did put first. (I could give clear Biblical references to this principle, but then I'd risk turning off certain people)

Ok, but do you think every couple could be happy together even if they "put in the work"? Is it not possible that marriage just isn't for some people?
It does, after all, sort of go against our genetics. We didn't evolve to be monogamous.

I think marriage just doesn't work for some( most ? ) people, and it is harmfull for us a society to send the message that if you don't get married for life you have somehow failed.

[MoB Deadly]

A thousand years with the same person, no matter who that person is, would get incredibly old and boring. I don't care if it's Jessica Alba, after the 20,000th time of hitting that, it wouldn't be fun anymore.

I DONT CARE ABOUT THE REST OF THIS THREAD. BUT THIS IS FALSE

[Maugena]

We didn't evolve to be monogamous.

It's advantageous to be able to produce with more than one mate. If some serious shit goes down and everyone's significant other (male or female - it doesn't matter as long as there is at least one of each that is potent/fertile) dies, then our species would be fucked.

[..] and it is harmfull for us a society to send the message that if you don't get married for life you have somehow failed.

Yeah.. We don't know what's best for humanity, necessarily. Marriage isn't necessary to continue the human race. Branding anyone a failure is pretty much a fuckbag's type of thing.

A thousand years with the same person, no matter who that person is, would get incredibly old and boring. I don't care if it's Jessica Alba, after the 20,000th time of hitting that, it wouldn't be fun anymore.

I DONT CARE ABOUT THE REST OF THIS THREAD. BUT THIS IS FALSE

My guess is that you're only saying that because you're Jessica Alba's stalker.

[yang guize]

Does every land owner in China have a concubine? Or were both land owners and concubines exterminated when the Maoists took over?

how do you mean by 'land owner'?

one of mao's mistakes was declaring that concubines should not be kept (he felt it was bourgeois). since the decline of maoism concubines have returned, although acceptance is not so widespread as it once was. there are plenty of rich businessmen who keep concubines to display their wealth.

[BigBallinStalin]

Does every land owner in China have a concubine? Or were both land owners and concubines exterminated when the Maoists took over?

how do you mean by 'land owner'?

one of mao's mistakes was declaring that concubines should not be kept (he felt it was bourgeois). since the decline of maoism concubines have returned, although acceptance is not so widespread as it once was. there are plenty of rich businessmen who keep concubines to display their wealth.

how do you mean by 'wealth'?

[Lootifer]

Does every land owner in China have a concubine? Or were both land owners and concubines exterminated when the Maoists took over?

how do you mean by 'land owner'?

one of mao's mistakes was declaring that concubines should not be kept (he felt it was bourgeois). since the decline of maoism concubines have returned, although acceptance is not so widespread as it once was. there are plenty of rich businessmen who keep concubines to display their wealth.

[2dimes]

On a more serious note - dude if you really do look like aragorn then it's no surprise your marriage works. Hell, I"d marry you. Maybe not for 1,00 years though - maybe like 200.

Nah, the 2 times anybody has commented on an actual picture of me on the internet and compared me to someone, it has been "Qui-gon" and...

Get a hair cut man!!

Well, it's great that it works for you.
This does not mean however that it could work for everyone.

Thanks for a respectful and reasoned disagreement.

Anyway, that's my point: marriage, as apparently most people view it today, doesn't "work". What causes it to "work" is, as a non-Christian that I mentioned said in another thread, putting in the "work" to put one's partner and the new entity that is the marriage above one's selfish, short-term interest. The result is that you get all the good things that you didn't put first -- great sex and companionship that is satisfying to you -- along with the ones that you did put first. (I could give clear Biblical references to this principle, but then I'd risk turning off certain people)

Ok, but do you think every couple could be happy together even if they "put in the work"? Is it not possible that marriage just isn't for some people?
It does, after all, sort of go against our genetics. We didn't evolve to be monogamous.

I think marriage just doesn't work for some( most ? ) people, and it is harmfull for us a society to send the message that if you don't get married for life you have somehow failed.

Maybe I'm over simplifying it but. Why have marriage if it's impossible?

Now that I'm in one, marriage sure isn't "for me." The first two - four years on the other hand... Shall we call it the "Jessica Albamoon"? That part is. After that it's just more work than it appears. I look at Woodruff and think, "Why's he so lucky, to find a good wife?" ignoring the fact he "put in the work" to be a good husband and forgot/didn't post that week he wanted to murder and replace her.

More so why is the world pretending it's such an important issue to either, "Allow people to marry others of the same gender." or "Prevent people from marrying others of the same gender."

[zimmah]

Nobody has any freaking clue what marriage is.

Says the guy who thinks marriage is defined by a supernatural entity.

Mind you, the supernatural entity is the one who created marriage, I don't even know why you atheists even marry, it's a religious thing. And it's also a promise to god, your parnter and the world that you stay together until death itself completes the contract. If you break the contract, not only do you betray your parnter, you also betray god.

[zimmah]

Sure life, including sex, goes through dry spells

On a more serious note - dude if you really do look like aragorn then it's no surprise your marriage works. Hell, I"d marry you. Maybe not for 1,00 years though - maybe like 200.

No wonder your relations do not work. All you guys care about it looks.

[comic boy]

Nobody has any freaking clue what marriage is.

Says the guy who thinks marriage is defined by a supernatural entity.

Mind you, the supernatural entity is the one who created marriage, I don't even know why you atheists even marry, it's a religious thing. And it's also a promise to god, your parnter and the world that you stay together until death itself completes the contract. If you break the contract, not only do you betray your parnter, you also betray god.

Thats your belief which is fine in itself but it doesn't explain why so many ' religious ' couples get divorced and more pertinently it doesn't add anything to the debate.

[zimmah]

Nobody has any freaking clue what marriage is.

Says the guy who thinks marriage is defined by a supernatural entity.

Mind you, the supernatural entity is the one who created marriage, I don't even know why you atheists even marry, it's a religious thing. And it's also a promise to god, your parnter and the world that you stay together until death itself completes the contract. If you break the contract, not only do you betray your parnter, you also betray god.

Thats your belief which is fine in itself but it doesn't explain why so many ' religious ' couples get divorced and more pertinently it doesn't add anything to the debate.

Because they are still human. And it's not my belief either, it's a fact that marriage started from the bible. Of course nowadays almost no one marries in the church anymore, but still, it's a religious ceremony.

It's kinda useless to even get married as a nonbeliever.

And religious people divorcing is sad, actually any kind of divorce is sad, but we're still human, so we do make mistakes.

[thegreekdog]

Practically speaking, if we're talking about only looks, someone who is 70 likely looks substantially similar to someone who is 985.

If we're talking about boredom, I suspect there would be a number of things, other than marriage, that one would be bored with. Plus, you know, if the retirement age is 950 instead of 65, you don't get to see your spouse as much as you would think.

[2dimes]

Is it better or worse if they stay attractive sexually. How long is cialis going to remain effective? Wouldn't it just be more frustrating if your spouse is a super hunky, distinguished 126 year old guy and you can't do anything about it anyways?

[comic boy]

Nobody has any freaking clue what marriage is.

Says the guy who thinks marriage is defined by a supernatural entity.

Mind you, the supernatural entity is the one who created marriage, I don't even know why you atheists even marry, it's a religious thing. And it's also a promise to god, your parnter and the world that you stay together until death itself completes the contract. If you break the contract, not only do you betray your parnter, you also betray god.

Thats your belief which is fine in itself but it doesn't explain why so many ' religious ' couples get divorced and more pertinently it doesn't add anything to the debate.

Because they are still human. And it's not my belief either, it's a fact that marriage started from the bible. Of course nowadays almost no one marries in the church anymore, but still, it's a religious ceremony.

It's kinda useless to even get married as a nonbeliever.

And religious people divorcing is sad, actually any kind of divorce is sad, but we're still human, so we do make mistakes.

I dont know where you get your information from but marriage did not originate in the bible.
In actual fact the religious marriage contract you subscribe to is fairly recent , it was codified by the RC Church in the 16th century. Even after this date most protestant groups , including the English pilgrims , insisted that marriage was a secular matter.

[thegreekdog]

Is it better or worse if they stay attractive sexually. How long is cialis going to remain effective? Wouldn't it just be more frustrating if your spouse is a super hunky, distinguished 126 year old guy and you can't do anything about it anyways?

I suspect that once a spouse gets to age 60 or so, sexual attractiveness becomes less important (no offense intended, Saxi).