Netherlands [Quenched]

boberz · Post by **boberz** » Thu Apr 26, 2007 2:01 pm

i like the colours bright and appealing

Lone.prophet · Post by **Lone.prophet** » Sat Apr 28, 2007 2:31 pm

if i make a poll in the general forum and see if people mind the border will you guys stop about it if they dont?

ParadiceCity9 · Post by **ParadiceCity9** » Sat Apr 28, 2007 3:26 pm

i like the wooden bridges.....

KEYOGI · Post by **KEYOGI** » Sat Apr 28, 2007 3:55 pm

Lone.prophet wrote:if i make a poll in the general forum and see if people mind the border will you guys stop about it if they dont?

We've got enough trolls in the foundry who don't understand how it works, don't add to it.

jnd94 · Post by **jnd94** » Sat Apr 28, 2007 4:02 pm

I like textures, but I think it might be better if instead of the territories extending themselves, maybe bridges or something. just looks somewhat odd, thats all

Wisse · Post by **Wisse** » Sat Apr 28, 2007 4:08 pm

KEYOGI wrote:
Lone.prophet wrote:if i make a poll in the general forum and see if people mind the border will you guys stop about it if they dont?
We've got enough trolls in the foundry who don't understand how it works, don't add to it.

yupz...

Lone.prophet · Post by **Lone.prophet** » Sun Apr 29, 2007 11:12 am

i guess you guys are a dictature it is your will and your will only even if the masses think other wise

and dont say this is untrue

boberz · Post by **boberz** » Sun Apr 29, 2007 11:34 am

anybody who wishes to partake in map making in any form must come to the foundry that is not too much to ask, if it is a good idea then it should prevail but if we have already specifically had this discussion people cannot complain

Guiscard · Post by **Guiscard** » Sun Apr 29, 2007 11:47 am

Lone.prophet wrote:if i make a poll in the general forum and see if people mind the border will you guys stop about it if they dont?

Qwert V.2 apparently

Look, there is no debate about the borders. A map maker should try to make every change suggested, however seemingly minor (although this isn't), unless either there is significant disagreement from the other foundry members for a valid reason (i.e. not 'we want to play it now!') or the cartographer can successfully argue for not going through with the change.

'I've made enough changes I don't want to make any more' isn't a valid reason. Nor is 'you're just nitpicking'.

People have asked you to even out the borders and make them less pixelated. There's no counter-argument. No-body is gonna argue that they look better as they are now. This is exactly the same situation as Qwert got himself into. His map has been abandoned, and I'm afraid your just gonna have to work with the foundry and make the changes or else give up. Don't put us through weeks of argument for nothing.

Even if you were to post a poll, you would have to provide us with two examples - pixellated and smoothed over - so you'd have to do the work anyway. Why not just make the changes and we can get on with getting it quenched

If you don't know how to go about smoothing the borders just ask, there are many skilled map makers who would be more than willing to help you out, but if its just an 'I can't be bothered to make any more changes' argument then I'm afraid that's not gonna wash. It didn't work for Qwert and it won't work here.

Wisse · Post by **Wisse** » Sun Apr 29, 2007 12:28 pm

here we go again...
cc world war 2...

Qwert · Post by **Qwert** » Sun Apr 29, 2007 1:09 pm

Guiscard, lone must know that even if do what you say, these map never be quenched(maybe will be quenched because i say oposite) because you will find something new microscopic mistake, i know because i fix borders to be smooth and blur, but then new thing you find, ofcourse first you enlarge my map 15time larger to find whats wrong.
Lone even you fix these "large"problems, belive me Guiscard and company will find something new.

mibi · Post by **mibi** » Sun Apr 29, 2007 1:47 pm

I have no problems with the borders, I don't know why anyone would.

The only thing i would like to see if to remove the texture on all water areas and having it be flat. People in the foundry really love their textures but its often too much of a mediocre thing.

Wisse · Post by **Wisse** » Sun Apr 29, 2007 1:56 pm

i will be back at this thread when the war ends

Lone.prophet · Post by **Lone.prophet** » Sun Apr 29, 2007 3:29 pm

Guiscard wrote:If you don't know how to go about smoothing the borders just ask, there are many skilled map makers who would be more than willing to help you out, but if its just an 'I can't be bothered to make any more changes' argument then I'm afraid that's not gonna wash. It didn't work for Qwert and it won't work here.

than go ahead smoothen the border ill give u the psd if you need it and if you come crying that you fail its your own fault

Lone.prophet · Post by **Lone.prophet** » Sun Apr 29, 2007 3:33 pm

for all who wants to try change the border
http://www.sendspace.com/file/8dy11h

if you make any changes other than the border ill hack your computer and track you down so you can rip for the rest of eternity

Wisse · Post by **Wisse** » Sun Apr 29, 2007 4:30 pm

Lone.prophet wrote:for all who wants to try change the border
http://www.sendspace.com/file/8dy11h

if you make any changes other than the border ill hack your computer and track you down so you can rip for the rest of eternity

will be impossible for me because i have mac, you can't hack it, but i won't do such things

Qwert · Post by **Qwert** » Sun Apr 29, 2007 4:32 pm

what a waste of time, changing something whats not a problem.

KEYOGI · Post by **KEYOGI** » Sun Apr 29, 2007 4:43 pm

qwert wrote:what a waste of time, changing something whats not a problem.

And leaving a map in Final Forge state but unfinished isn't a waste of time?

Qwert · Post by **Qwert** » Sun Apr 29, 2007 5:13 pm

yes is better. If you continue to drag these map for border who not present a problem for majority, you will be guilty if lone abandoned these map also. Dont forget, if so many people have complain in yours way of managing map foundru, then these not problem with map makers, these problem is you.

Guiscard · Post by **Guiscard** » Sun Apr 29, 2007 7:06 pm

Lone.prophet wrote:for all who wants to try change the border
http://www.sendspace.com/file/8dy11h

if you make any changes other than the border ill hack your computer and track you down so you can rip for the rest of eternity

I'll take a look...

edit: OK you have three layers of borders and have used outer glow to thicken them at some point as well... You need to just get rid of all those current ones and re-draw with maybe a 2px brush. Then add a little blur and they should all be equally thick and smooth. Twenty minutes work at a stretch.

KEYOGI · Post by **KEYOGI** » Sun Apr 29, 2007 8:20 pm

qwert wrote:yes is better. If you continue to drag these map for border who not present a problem for majority, you will be guilty if lone abandoned these map also. Dont forget, if so many people have complain in yours way of managing map foundru, then these not problem with map makers, these problem is you.

That's enough trolling in peoples threads qwert.

Qwert · Post by **Qwert** » Mon Apr 30, 2007 2:03 am

Now i see what you want to do Keyogy, you want to eliminate all negative opinion , and only want to hear positive opinion, these not good, but you have power, and send mee a private message to nobody see , that you want to eliminate me from map forum, but people will see that im right, and that lone will get new task, after he fix borders. And you want to eliminate all negative opinion, because these not got for you.

Wisse · Post by **Wisse** » Mon Apr 30, 2007 2:15 am

qwert wrote:Now i see what you want to do Keyogy, you want to eliminate all negative opinion , and only want to hear positive opinion, these not good, but you have power, and send mee a private message to nobody see , that you want to eliminate me from map forum, but people will see that im right, and that lone will get new task, after he fix borders. And you want to eliminate all negative opinion, because these not got for you.

that could mayby be true but make anather thread do not post it in everyone threads

Wisse · Post by **Wisse** » Mon Apr 30, 2007 2:17 am

Guiscard wrote:
Lone.prophet wrote:for all who wants to try change the border
http://www.sendspace.com/file/8dy11h

if you make any changes other than the border ill hack your computer and track you down so you can rip for the rest of eternity
I'll take a look...

edit: OK you have three layers of borders and have used outer glow to thicken them at some point as well... You need to just get rid of all those current ones and re-draw with maybe a 2px brush. Then add a little blur and they should all be equally thick and smooth. Twenty minutes work at a stretch.

yup thats treu, but i have tried it on my own way to blur them with the 1px borders:

you see that with 1px borders it is not going to be nice

KEYOGI · Post by **KEYOGI** » Mon Apr 30, 2007 2:21 am

I won't warn you again qwert. Get your facts straight before you post and take any grudges with me to the Flame Wars forum.

Back on topic... I think the blurring has worked well in some places, but not in others.