Batman : Arkham City [Day 4] And we're back

[new guy1]

What, mine? haha. I did it in rememberance of Insomnia Red, mostly cause I couldnt think of anything else.

[betiko]

here is a list of characters i believe we'll have here:

joker
poison ivy
penguin
two faces
bane
mr freeze
riddler
scare crow
ra's al ghul
catwoman
hugo strange
harley quinn
calendar man
mad hatter

possible serial killer:
mr zasz

mafia:
batman (godfather+other powers?)
robin
batgirl
alfred

[strike wolf]

I not sure that catwoman wouldn't be third party and Nightwing the last mafia. also considering his role what about clayface?

[nagerous]

What, mine? haha. I did it in rememberance of Insomnia Red, mostly cause I couldnt think of anything else.

You do realise the context though? She told me she was in love with me then she faked her death to quit the site.. she is alive and well.

[new guy1]

Lol, well I had just started playing when she left, so I did not know that she was a liar and stuff, so once I find inspiration for a new sig, I will change it, but right now it stays how it is

[lord voldemort]

Vote Count 1.1


Strikewolf (1)- /
/ (1)- new guy1
new guy1 (2)- ShaggyDan, Nagerous
ShaggyDan (1)- Vodean
Vodean(2) - Mr. Squirrel, betiko
Mr Squirrel(1) - Nendreel
Nendreel (1)- cm5
cm5 (1)- jonty125
nagerous (2)- DRoZ, ghostly447
DRoZ (1)- safariguy5
safariguy5 (1)- gillipig
ghostly447 (1)- gregwolf121



Not Voting (5)- edocsil, spiesr, LSU Josh, jak111, Illiad

With 21 alive it takes 11 to lynch. Deadline is currently

[Nendreel]

Mostly agree with betikos list, though Catwoman and Talia might be sided with Batman rather than the villains. Also there might be a third party recruiter (Ivy or Hatter?)

[new guy1]

I wouldnt be suprised if the Joker was possibly a recruiter, since he seems to be good at getting groups together (at least in what movies Ive seen).

[jonty125]

My potetntial role analysis is: Villains are Town, Heroes are Mafia. Never seen a batman movie so I've got no idea who'd be suitable for what roles, or third parties.

[lord voldemort]

Just to step in here so everyone knows...This is based on The video game Batman Arkham City. Thats all I will give you as I thought it was obvious but not everyone seams to realise

[betiko]

i know it's about the video game, but haven't played it. i did a quick research on the web to find these + some characters from batman that are pretty well known. I added catwoman for example. i found a guy that did a mafia game based on the same flavour but it was a 16 player one.

[Gillipig]

What, mine? haha. I did it in rememberance of Insomnia Red, mostly cause I couldnt think of anything else.

You do realise the context though? She told me she was in love with me then she faked her death to quit the site.. she is alive and well.

Are you sure about "well"? Doesn't sound likely judging by the other details.

[vodean]

What, mine? haha. I did it in rememberance of Insomnia Red, mostly cause I couldnt think of anything else.

You do realise the context though? She told me she was in love with me then she faked her death to quit the site.. she is alive and well.

Are you sure about "well"? Doesn't sound likely judging by the other details.

dude lets not even talk about it.

[/]

Why are we discussing potential roles at the beginning of the game?

I mean, it may be to our benefit to discuss potential threats, but why make a list of plausible town names? That really doesn't help town accomplish anything, and in fact for day one (which is usually before scum is allowed to speak to each other for the first time) gives scum a very slight fake-claim lead as they can see the names they shouldn't claim even if they don't know the flavor...

[betiko]

Why are we discussing potential roles at the beginning of the game?

I mean, it may be to our benefit to discuss potential threats, but why make a list of plausible town names? That really doesn't help town accomplish anything, and in fact for day one (which is usually before scum is allowed to speak to each other for the first time) gives scum a very slight fake-claim lead as they can see the names they shouldn't claim even if they don't know the flavor...

ok, so you would rather have me joke voting and continue the discution about insomnia red that has nothing to do with this game? do you think that mafia don't have google? where do you think this list came from? they might as well have fake claim names anyway. i like thinking about what we might be facing.

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Why are we discussing potential roles at the beginning of the game?

I mean, it may be to our benefit to discuss potential threats, but why make a list of plausible town names? That really doesn't help town accomplish anything, and in fact for day one (which is usually before scum is allowed to speak to each other for the first time) gives scum a very slight fake-claim lead as they can see the names they shouldn't claim even if they don't know the flavor...

ok, so you would rather have me joke voting and continue the discution about insomnia red that has nothing to do with this game? do you think that mafia don't have google? where do you think this list came from? they might as well have fake claim names anyway. i like thinking about what we might be facing.

my my, defensive aren't you?
You make it sound like an either/or senario, "shut up and talk about unrelated subjects!"
And yet, you completely gloss over my actual critique, I asked, how does it help to list potential town names?

[spiesr]

my my, defensive aren't you?
You make it sound like an either/or senario, "shut up and talk about unrelated subjects!"
And yet, you completely gloss over my actual critique, I asked, how does it help to list potential town names?

This early on day 1 this is good enough for me. Vote betiko.

Also, all the joke-voters should probably read the rules at some point.

5. All ‘votes’ and ‘unvotes’ must be in Bold and Blue. If they are not, they will not be tallied. (I.E. Vote: Nagerous). You must first unvote and then vote to change your vote from someone.

7. Red is my colour don't use it for anything.

[safariguy5]

Why are we discussing potential roles at the beginning of the game?

I mean, it may be to our benefit to discuss potential threats, but why make a list of plausible town names? That really doesn't help town accomplish anything, and in fact for day one (which is usually before scum is allowed to speak to each other for the first time) gives scum a very slight fake-claim lead as they can see the names they shouldn't claim even if they don't know the flavor...

I'd like to disagree with this stance. In Sweeney Todd mafia, I set out a pretty aggressive list of town/mafia roles that I thought were plausibly in the game. It really helped make clear who was town sided and eventually helped us root out who was fakeclaiming. Granted, this game has much larger flavor, but I see no real downside to compiling town names. If mafia fakeclaim a name of someone who is present in the game, then we'll find them out. Even if they don't the onus is still on them to support their claim with a plausible role.

unvote vote /

Incidentally, I don't remember seeing Clayface under the town list, he would be extremely important flavor wise for this game.

[lord voldemort]

<3 spiesr.

You win bonus points

[strike wolf]

I honestly don't find either side worth voting for at this point. If I favored either it would probably be /'s but I'm not gonna crucify over posting a town list. I do however find it a bit odd after reading back through that list that he put 19 names (long enough that without counting it was enough to make me briefly think he had put all 21) total for a 21 player game. Seems a bit short if he was trying to detail all the names and a bit long if he was just trying to note the few most possible names.

[nagerous]

I don't see the big deal with betiko posting that list. Ultimately if he was scum that would be the kind of information he would compile anyway, then keep it to himself as opposed to telling the town it all.

[vodean]

yes i dont really see either side as wanting to publish a list like that.

[ShaggyDan]

Well, I guess a point could be made that scum hasn't had a chance to talk amongst themselves yet despite knowing who each other are and this sort of list would help highlight things between them? It is a bit of strech though.

As for role and flavour spec, we'll have more of an idea after the first scenes. In a 21 player game I'm assuming 4ish maf, with potential for other serial killers or cult recruiters or other nastys.

As for day one leads, we only have 4 days to go. So if we want to pressure to a claim we should probably get a move on with it. I will Unvote and Vote Betiko, not for the posting of the list, but for his response to /. I am eager to hear a response to the question / put forward.

[ghostly447]

FOS Betiko for his response
FOS Vodeon for adding nothing new
Unvote Vote Shaggydan For adding no input and throwing his vote around like its a ticking time bomb. Right now I see 2 options:

Pressure for a Betiko claim on behalf of his quick, aggressive response
OR
Pressure Shaggy for his Submarining continued by quickly jumping on a BW.

[betiko]

@ /: well, if you think it doesn't help, sorry i personally think it does more than talking about an insane girl we don't know and has nothing to do with the game (oh, so you're going to pull out the "deviating the question again right"?). Having not played the videogame and having a little rusty memory concerning batman's universe, i am guilty of having googled it. then i guess i'm guilty about sharing it, cause when you do something it always has to be because i'm a scum acting like a friggin town cheerleader.

@ strike: if you had a better read, you'd notice I said I found on google an arkham online mafia game of 16 an that I added a few names such as catwoman ect. where did I say I had a complete list of all 21? and I guess if I had one and shared it; you'd be pointing fingers because it would "give mafia fakeclaims"

my my, defensive aren't you?
You make it sound like an either/or senario, "shut up and talk about unrelated subjects!"
And yet, you completely gloss over my actual critique, I asked, how does it help to list potential town names?

This early on day 1 this is good enough for me. Vote betiko.

Also, all the joke-voters should probably read the rules at some point.

5. All ‘votes’ and ‘unvotes’ must be in Bold and Blue. If they are not, they will not be tallied. (I.E. Vote: Nagerous). You must first unvote and then vote to change your vote from someone.

7. Red is my colour don't use it for anything.

this post is stupid enough for me spiesr. unvote vote spiesr. You feel like pressuring me, I think you sound like a good client with all the mod ass licking and the quick stuborn bandwagoning.

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