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Maxleod wrote:Not strike, he's the only one with a functioning brain.
As a bomb, what exactly would you have had to fear from a mafia busdriver? It doesn't allow them to get around your ability or anything.betiko wrote:sorry but what the hell what? I should've claimed my role with the character name on day 1? as I said, i was pretty afraid of a mafia busdriver. not that i have any proof about such role not existing, but think it's a bit unlikely. Also I was pretty sure that claiming my role no one would believe me, any word I said was just analyzed by people self convinced and who would try to extrapolate whatever. Safari ended up being one of them and who voted for me acusing me of doing something actually edocsil did.. And I think that bane being uncounter claimed is much more meaningfull than bomb being uncounterclaimed as a bomb is not a very usual role; bane being a character quite unlikely not to be in the game.
my problem was that I really thought claiming bane was enough, as he is the main vilain in the last movie and I thought he had a pretty important play in the video game. what you guys had on me was sloppy and I thought it was enough to let me go. Also, by claiming bane the scum might have seen a potential power role there and targeted me during night 1.spiesr wrote:As a bomb, what exactly would you have had to fear from a mafia busdriver? It doesn't allow them to get around your ability or anything.betiko wrote:sorry but what the hell what? I should've claimed my role with the character name on day 1? as I said, i was pretty afraid of a mafia busdriver. not that i have any proof about such role not existing, but think it's a bit unlikely. Also I was pretty sure that claiming my role no one would believe me, any word I said was just analyzed by people self convinced and who would try to extrapolate whatever. Safari ended up being one of them and who voted for me acusing me of doing something actually edocsil did.. And I think that bane being uncounter claimed is much more meaningfull than bomb being uncounterclaimed as a bomb is not a very usual role; bane being a character quite unlikely not to be in the game.
Anyhow I understand your desire not to claim before (assuming you are telling the truth now). I don't agree that it was the right choice, but it is a sucky situation to be in. If you claim that role some of it's potential usefulness is lost as the scum won't randomly kill you. The flipside to that is that if you are exposed a town busdriver can then use you as a potential weapon. (Of course there was know way to know if we had a busdriver Day 1.) The problem as I see it is that in that situation the scum were not going to kill you whether you claimed or not. If you had managed to get the town to fully believe you with you with only the character claim, then sure it would have been a decent move as you would have become a target for the scum. However, once it became clear that the half claim wasn't going to dispel the suspicion on you then there really wasn't any reason to hold that back anymore. But whatever...
One thing I still don't understand though is what changed you to decide to give it up today?
.since when can't there be 2 trackers in a same game? already happened to me in a game modded by crazymilkshake.jonty125 wrote:vote new guy1 For deciding we should pressure nag to claim because he targeted edocsil (nothing scummy in that). For then expecting him to be a tracker, even when crazy had already claimed to be it. Your logic been [paraphrase] he might have had important information[/paraphrase] surely he would step forward and claim anyhow. You then question where we would have gone, as if its brain surgery. We would have gone for someone scummy, namely yourself.
If edocsil died then fair enough, but edocsil is alive and well, agreed - it is not in the town's best interest to try and pry further information out of me at this stage.jonty125 wrote:vote new guy1 For deciding we should pressure nag to claim because he targeted edocsil (nothing scummy in that). For then expecting him to be a tracker, even when crazy had already claimed to be it. Your logic been [paraphrase] he might have had important information[/paraphrase] surely he would step forward and claim anyhow. You then question where we would have gone, as if its brain surgery. We would have gone for someone scummy, namely yourself.
Thats all I wanted to know, and jonty, tell me then if I didnt give a suggestion on where to go. WHO was scummy? My logic being "He may have important info" is what if he was a watcher? What if he was a poison doctor? What if he was a cop? Leaving out all of the posibilities that could have yielded information just to jump on a case that is dying already? I just rephrased for / that I wanted to know if he had info, NOT A DAMN CLAIM. I wont vote you, but I will FOS you for seemingly skimming over the whole end of the arguement. Surely he would step forward? Yeah, and I was saying maybe we should look at him for some information, since we know he went somewhere. What is the problem with saying "hey, maybe we should see if he has information" before he posts if he has infomation or not? If its not brain surgery, then I guess you already had someone on your mind to question, right? I mean, since its not brain surgery and there was obviously something scummy already posted. Otherwise the game would have gone silent till people were posting random things, right? Im asking lots of questions in this because I need answers myself, since apparently my solution to the problem is wrong.nagerous wrote:If edocsil died then fair enough, but edocsil is alive and well, agreed - it is not in the town's best interest to try and pry further information out of me at this stage.jonty125 wrote:vote new guy1 For deciding we should pressure nag to claim because he targeted edocsil (nothing scummy in that). For then expecting him to be a tracker, even when crazy had already claimed to be it. Your logic been [paraphrase] he might have had important information[/paraphrase] surely he would step forward and claim anyhow. You then question where we would have gone, as if its brain surgery. We would have gone for someone scummy, namely yourself.
Unlike new guy1 being so kind as to refrain from a vote, I do not take kindly to skimming. Unvote vote Jonty. Name a player you would have pressured. Nag did not respond for a while, and I was suspecting poison doctor since I dont know his situation and after 4-5 pages, had no response to New Guy1's beckoning.jonty125 wrote:vote new guy1 For deciding we should pressure nag to claim because he targeted edocsil (nothing scummy in that). For then expecting him to be a tracker, even when crazy had already claimed to be it. Your logic been [paraphrase] he might have had important information[/paraphrase] surely he would step forward and claim anyhow. You then question where we would have gone, as if its brain surgery. We would have gone for someone scummy, namely yourself.
I know, maybe your phrasing of questioning nag made you seem suspicious of me, like I needed to be brought to dock for questioning as to the basis of my night action. That's how I initially read it anyway, if I had information I thought useful I would volunteer itnew guy1 wrote:Thats all I wanted to know, and jonty, tell me then if I didnt give a suggestion on where to go. WHO was scummy? My logic being "He may have important info" is what if he was a watcher? What if he was a poison doctor? What if he was a cop? Leaving out all of the posibilities that could have yielded information just to jump on a case that is dying already? I just rephrased for / that I wanted to know if he had info, NOT A DAMN CLAIM. I wont vote you, but I will FOS you for seemingly skimming over the whole end of the arguement. Surely he would step forward? Yeah, and I was saying maybe we should look at him for some information, since we know he went somewhere. What is the problem with saying "hey, maybe we should see if he has information" before he posts if he has infomation or not? If its not brain surgery, then I guess you already had someone on your mind to question, right? I mean, since its not brain surgery and there was obviously something scummy already posted. Otherwise the game would have gone silent till people were posting random things, right? Im asking lots of questions in this because I need answers myself, since apparently my solution to the problem is wrong.nagerous wrote:If edocsil died then fair enough, but edocsil is alive and well, agreed - it is not in the town's best interest to try and pry further information out of me at this stage.jonty125 wrote:vote new guy1 For deciding we should pressure nag to claim because he targeted edocsil (nothing scummy in that). For then expecting him to be a tracker, even when crazy had already claimed to be it. Your logic been [paraphrase] he might have had important information[/paraphrase] surely he would step forward and claim anyhow. You then question where we would have gone, as if its brain surgery. We would have gone for someone scummy, namely yourself.
The only thing I can without question confirm is the validity of Mr Squirrel's action though that was being treated as canon anyway. All this was happening when I was sleeping and then working so I often will go 16 hours without posting FYI.ghostly447 wrote:Unlike new guy1 being so kind as to refrain from a vote, I do not take kindly to skimming. Unvote vote Jonty. Name a player you would have pressured. Nag did not respond for a while, and I was suspecting poison doctor since I dont know his situation and after 4-5 pages, had no response to New Guy1's beckoning.jonty125 wrote:vote new guy1 For deciding we should pressure nag to claim because he targeted edocsil (nothing scummy in that). For then expecting him to be a tracker, even when crazy had already claimed to be it. Your logic been [paraphrase] he might have had important information[/paraphrase] surely he would step forward and claim anyhow. You then question where we would have gone, as if its brain surgery. We would have gone for someone scummy, namely yourself.
So then Jonty, please also explain to me how you havent seen that All votes and unvotes (this is not an unvote) must be in blue. Still skimming since what, the first post in the game? Everyone else got with the picture, and here you are skimming skimming skimming.
So you're calling skimming that I use red to vote, as that is standard.ghostly447 wrote:Unlike new guy1 being so kind as to refrain from a vote, I do not take kindly to skimming. Unvote vote Jonty. Name a player you would have pressured. Nag did not respond for a while, and I was suspecting poison doctor since I dont know his situation and after 4-5 pages, had no response to New Guy1's beckoning.jonty125 wrote:vote new guy1 For deciding we should pressure nag to claim because he targeted edocsil (nothing scummy in that). For then expecting him to be a tracker, even when crazy had already claimed to be it. Your logic been [paraphrase] he might have had important information[/paraphrase] surely he would step forward and claim anyhow. You then question where we would have gone, as if its brain surgery. We would have gone for someone scummy, namely yourself.
So then Jonty, please also explain to me how you havent seen that All votes and unvotes (this is not an unvote) must be in blue. Still skimming since what, the first post in the game? Everyone else got with the picture, and here you are skimming skimming skimming.
. I can't say who I would have pressured but I certainnly would have looked through D1.Well, I doubt it. I mean if you read the latest edition of the dispatch it even says that exact duplicate roles are very rare.betiko wrote:since when can't there be 2 trackers in a same game? already happened to me in a game modded by crazymilkshake.jonty125 wrote:vote new guy1 For deciding we should pressure nag to claim because he targeted edocsil (nothing scummy in that). For then expecting him to be a tracker, even when crazy had already claimed to be it. Your logic been [paraphrase] he might have had important information[/paraphrase] surely he would step forward and claim anyhow. You then question where we would have gone, as if its brain surgery. We would have gone for someone scummy, namely yourself.
OK, when I read the post in offence first it seemed as if you were rolefishing and then you covering your tracks but this is WIFOM.new guy1 wrote:Thats all I wanted to know, and jonty, tell me then if I didnt give a suggestion on where to go. WHO was scummy? My logic being "He may have important info" is what if he was a watcher? What if he was a poison doctor? What if he was a cop? Leaving out all of the posibilities that could have yielded information just to jump on a case that is dying already? I just rephrased for / that I wanted to know if he had info, NOT A DAMN CLAIM.nagerous wrote:If edocsil died then fair enough, but edocsil is alive and well, agreed - it is not in the town's best interest to try and pry further information out of me at this stage.jonty125 wrote:vote new guy1 For deciding we should pressure nag to claim because he targeted edocsil (nothing scummy in that). For then expecting him to be a tracker, even when crazy had already claimed to be it. Your logic been [paraphrase] he might have had important information[/paraphrase] surely he would step forward and claim anyhow. You then question where we would have gone, as if its brain surgery. We would have gone for someone scummy, namely yourself.
Well given that there has actually been a discussion on this subject, you must either not have read that discussion (thus skimming?) or forgot about it.jonty125 wrote:So you're calling skimming that I use red to vote, as that is standard.
Good, how about some opinions?Gillipig wrote:You guys are voting me for inactivity right? Fair enough. I'll be more active.
