Standard game kill

želja · Post by **želja** » Wed May 02, 2007 3:30 am

In standard game if you make a kill or even more theres no points for you out of it, everything goes to the winner at the end. So I was thinking why wouldnt I get points for every of my kills (maybe even up to 50%) and the winner of the game can have the rest of the points (for all of his kills and 50% of my kills). Believe that would be fair because now I dont get any points if Im not a winner no matter I kicked ass or sucked. Please consider this, really believe that many of other players out there share my thoughts. Thks

Genghis Khan CA · Post by **Genghis Khan CA** » Wed May 02, 2007 3:54 am

This already exists... it's called a terminator game

demigod · Post by **demigod** » Wed May 02, 2007 4:52 am

that's the best suggestion i've heard in a long while

želja · Post by **želja** » Wed May 02, 2007 7:36 am

Well I know about terminator games, thank you, but nevertheless think its a good idea. There must have been thousands of games on which many spent a lot of time and thinking but got kicked out without getting any points even when they kicked some ass too. This way, if you make a kill or two, you dont lose so many points or can even earn some after getting kicked out. Think about it.

demigod · Post by **demigod** » Wed May 02, 2007 7:56 am

želja wrote:Think about it.

profound

Genghis Khan CA · Post by **Genghis Khan CA** » Wed May 02, 2007 8:09 am

Well, that's why there are terminator games, in which the aim is to kill individual opponents. The aim in standard is to win the game. Often, in flat rate or no cards, this aim is best achieved by sitting back and letting an opponent kill off players for you.

In escalating, a player who kills a number of opponents but does not win the game will often have either mis-calculated mid-turn cashes or the number of armies required to win.

In either case, rewarding the player who has done the dirty work for the eventual winner would result in rewarding poor or illogical play that is not well-suited to the ultimate aim of winning.

I see no need for this option with terminator games already in existence. In fact you do not explain how your suggestion differs to terminator games. As far as I can tell you are proposing that we abolish standard games

RobinJ · Post by **RobinJ** » Wed May 02, 2007 9:55 am

želja wrote:Well I know about terminator games, thank you, but nevertheless think its a good idea. There must have been thousands of games on which many spent a lot of time and thinking but got kicked out without getting any points even when they kicked some ass too. This way, if you make a kill or two, you dont lose so many points or can even earn some after getting kicked out. Think about it.

You are forgetting that the skill required in standard games is to beat everybody, not to "kick some ass". If you want that just play terminator. A player with that attitude has poor strategy. Seriously, when did the person who survived second longest in any war ever get anything any better out of it? For example, look at Hiroshima 1945 - the Japanese had it far worse than the Germans did

želja · Post by **želja** » Wed May 02, 2007 2:13 pm

Well boys you made a good point there, maybe it would be better to live it alone and let "the winner take it all".

Any more opinions?

freezie · Post by **freezie** » Wed May 02, 2007 2:33 pm

želja wrote:Well boys you made a good point there, maybe it would be better to live it alone and let "the winner take it all".

Any more opinions?

The goal of a standard game is in fact to ''win and take all''. The skill required to do that is high enough, the winner deserves it.

Terminator requires as much strategy, but differ from standard games. And the goal of it is to kick some ass and make damage, playing agressive.

Both games offer a different point system, all related to the kind of strategy needed to effectively play them.

All is good, they shoudln't be changed upon the point system.