Periodic Table Mafia: Nonmetals (TOWN) win

[DoomYoshi]

Ok, ive read through the thread again. Still not much there. Any roleblockers wanna claim that they stopped the kill last night? If not, I will Vote betiko.

May as well continue from where we left off.

[vodean]

yeah, i think betiko is pretty much in his own lofty french world. He is conspiring and theorizing about ridiculous concepts.
unvote if necessary, vote betiko.
also, doom, your vote has not been counted. if you did that by accident, you may wish to change it. if not, well i guess i will have to go this alone.

[DoomYoshi]

vote betiko

[jonty125]

So, scum godfather dies. Therefore, Fluorine is here as an SK because it is impossible for there to be a busdriver OR the vigilante shot him. I'd guess SK because vigs shouldn't shoot N1 but I agree it is possible.

Also the mafia kill was either doc'd or blocked so either B or D equals at least 1.

As well, T= 0-2, 5-7. I'd guess T= 1 OR 5. Because I don't think the vig should of shot on N1. Anyhow, T CANNOT equal 7 because there must have been at least one doc or roleblocker to stop the kill. So, T probably equals 1 or 5.

This is my mathematical analysis of the night, does anyone disagree or having anything to add?

[betiko]

vote betiko

I give up answering to mister coocoo, so i'll adress this to you doom. would you mind giving a reason for voting me? because it's quite funny how in the official game you ask people for proofs to lynch you. You guys want actually to lynch me because i claimed VT with nameclaim to backup the fact that VTs were not (at least not all) noble gases.

so what's new? the mafia godfather got killed since i got my life spared? is the game based on lynching all claimed vts, and why is saf's or nos's claim not worthy looking deeper in? or why wouldn't it be interesting to look on a different case?

[DoomYoshi]

vote betiko

I give up answering to mister coocoo, so i'll adress this to you doom. would you mind giving a reason for voting me? because it's quite funny how in the official game you ask people for proofs to lynch you. You guys want actually to lynch me because i claimed VT with nameclaim to backup the fact that VTs were not (at least not all) noble gases.

so what's new? the mafia godfather got killed since i got my life spared? is the game based on lynching all claimed vts, and why is saf's or nos's claim not worthy looking deeper in? or why wouldn't it be interesting to look on a different case?

It's not a great case, but it's better than nothing. Or do you have a better case?

[betiko]

vote betiko

I give up answering to mister coocoo, so i'll adress this to you doom. would you mind giving a reason for voting me? because it's quite funny how in the official game you ask people for proofs to lynch you. You guys want actually to lynch me because i claimed VT with nameclaim to backup the fact that VTs were not (at least not all) noble gases.

so what's new? the mafia godfather got killed since i got my life spared? is the game based on lynching all claimed vts, and why is saf's or nos's claim not worthy looking deeper in? or why wouldn't it be interesting to look on a different case?

It's not a great case, but it's better than nothing. Or do you have a better case?

well what is the case exactly? me telling "oh, i should ve listened to my first intuition again"? with wifom you can invent whatever you want from what someone says. But you know what i'm reffering to. you know that in your game i was all about campin on day 1, i ended letting it go, then all about trinicardinal, convinced he was the remaining scum for a while and i ended interestng me in other cases, just like yesterday with iron. i just need to listen more to my first intuition that's all.
I'm going to continue harrassing hippo. I"ll continue harrassing him untill he claims. I found him fishy yesterday, really, alreay gave my reasons.

vote hippo

i'd like to listen to gillipig and duka who are not participating at all in this game!!

[NoSurvivors]

vote betiko

I give up answering to mister coocoo, so i'll adress this to you doom. would you mind giving a reason for voting me? because it's quite funny how in the official game you ask people for proofs to lynch you. You guys want actually to lynch me because i claimed VT with nameclaim to backup the fact that VTs were not (at least not all) noble gases.

so what's new? the mafia godfather got killed since i got my life spared? is the game based on lynching all claimed vts, and why is saf's or nos's claim not worthy looking deeper in? or why wouldn't it be interesting to look on a different case?

It's not a great case, but it's better than nothing. Or do you have a better case?

well what is the case exactly? me telling "oh, i should ve listened to my first intuition again"? with wifom you can invent whatever you want from what someone says. But you know what i'm reffering to. you know that in your game i was all about campin on day 1, i ended letting it go, then all about trinicardinal, convinced he was the remaining scum for a while and i ended interestng me in other cases, just like yesterday with iron. i just need to listen more to my first intuition that's all.
I'm going to continue harrassing hippo. I"ll continue harrassing him untill he claims. I found him fishy yesterday, really, alreay gave my reasons.

vote hippo

i'd like to listen to gillipig and duka who are not participating at all in this game!!

One question; how are you going to harass hippo? The worst you can do is vote him

[betiko]

vote betiko

I give up answering to mister coocoo, so i'll adress this to you doom. would you mind giving a reason for voting me? because it's quite funny how in the official game you ask people for proofs to lynch you. You guys want actually to lynch me because i claimed VT with nameclaim to backup the fact that VTs were not (at least not all) noble gases.

so what's new? the mafia godfather got killed since i got my life spared? is the game based on lynching all claimed vts, and why is saf's or nos's claim not worthy looking deeper in? or why wouldn't it be interesting to look on a different case?

It's not a great case, but it's better than nothing. Or do you have a better case?

well what is the case exactly? me telling "oh, i should ve listened to my first intuition again"? with wifom you can invent whatever you want from what someone says. But you know what i'm reffering to. you know that in your game i was all about campin on day 1, i ended letting it go, then all about trinicardinal, convinced he was the remaining scum for a while and i ended interestng me in other cases, just like yesterday with iron. i just need to listen more to my first intuition that's all.
I'm going to continue harrassing hippo. I"ll continue harrassing him untill he claims. I found him fishy yesterday, really, alreay gave my reasons.

vote hippo

i'd like to listen to gillipig and duka who are not participating at all in this game!!

One question; how are you going to harass hippo? The worst you can do is vote him

i'm voting so hard and so many times hippo that he can call that harrassment!

[thehippo8]

There are consequences for harrassing hippos!

[samgrossy]

Vote Count, Day 2.1

Betiko - (2) Vodean, DoomYoshi L-5
thehippo8 - (1) Betiko L-6

Not Voting - (9) NoSurvivors, Gillipig, Dukasaur, thechuck51, /, sempaispellcheck, thehippo8, Jonty125, safariguy5

To make gameplay easier for players, the player(s) closest to lynch at the time of vote count will be in red bold

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.
Deadline for Day 2 is 10 PM EST, October 25th. That's 9 days from now.

[NoSurvivors]

There are consequences for harrassing hippos!

[vodean]

There are consequences for harrassing hippos!

thats a baby hippo too. dont f*ck with those fuckers.

[sempaispellcheck]

Sorry it took me so long to post, guys - I was a bit stunned by the results of the night.

I'm going to think out loud for a bit - maybe I can make sense out of my confusion, or maybe someone else can, if not me.

betiko's posts give me the impression that he feels like he's backed into a corner, though that in itself doesn't necessarily imply guilt or innocence.
If he is scum, he'd have known IB was scum, too, right? So then why would he have tried to get IB lynched? So town would think he was innocent? Seems logical enough.
If he wasn't scum, though, he wouldn't have known IB was scum, so what would have made him try to get IB lynched? He mentions his username being a tipoff, but I highly doubt that - iron is a metal, not a metalloid, and besides, that kind of username/role association seems like the kind of thing a mod would want to avoid. *sniff* Yeah, I think I smell a fish.

vote betiko

For what it's worth (which is probably nothing), I'm not 100% convinced either way on the theory that noble gas = VT. I understand the rationale behind it, chemically speaking, and there is definitely the possibility that NoS and betiko are both fakeclaiming VT, though this is unlikely given only 2 scum left (or are there more than that?). However, there is also the definite possibility that they're both telling the truth. This game may not be using all of the noble gases, and neon might actually be a town PR because of its proximity to fluorine.

Does any of that actually mean anything, or am I just babbling?

[Dukasaur]

vote betiko

I give up answering to mister coocoo, so i'll adress this to you doom. would you mind giving a reason for voting me? because it's quite funny how in the official game you ask people for proofs to lynch you. You guys want actually to lynch me because i claimed VT with nameclaim to backup the fact that VTs were not (at least not all) noble gases.

so what's new? the mafia godfather got killed since i got my life spared? is the game based on lynching all claimed vts, and why is saf's or nos's claim not worthy looking deeper in? or why wouldn't it be interesting to look on a different case?

It's not a great case, but it's better than nothing. Or do you have a better case?

well what is the case exactly? me telling "oh, i should ve listened to my first intuition again"? with wifom you can invent whatever you want from what someone says. But you know what i'm reffering to. you know that in your game i was all about campin on day 1, i ended letting it go, then all about trinicardinal, convinced he was the remaining scum for a while and i ended interestng me in other cases, just like yesterday with iron. i just need to listen more to my first intuition that's all.
I'm going to continue harrassing hippo. I"ll continue harrassing him untill he claims. I found him fishy yesterday, really, alreay gave my reasons.

vote hippo

i'd like to listen to gillipig and duka who are not participating at all in this game!!

Duka participated quite a bit in the first few days, and had some valid points I think. However, his new job is a lot tougher than he anticipated, and he is having a really hard time staying on top of his CC game load and his CC volunteer responsibilities, while struggling with long days on the road followed by logging in with unreliable truck stop wifi and a laptop whose keyboard is too small for his big fat fingers.

As for Gillipig, I was the first to notice that he had many posts but said nothing of substance in any of them, and I threw a FOS his way long ago. However, I'm not going to bother voting for him until someone else does, because I have neither the expertise nor the energy to drive home the case.

[Gillipig]

Hi guys, I won't read the ten pages I've missed, so a sum up would be greatly appreciated. I'm scummy for not being active obviously but other than that what has been said?

[betiko]

Hi guys, I won't read the ten pages I've missed, so a sum up would be greatly appreciated. I'm scummy for not being active obviously but other than that what has been said?

wow,that just makes me want to help you so much! 10 pages to read, poor thing! let us all read back for you and try to see things from your perspective of whatever role you have and sumarize things in the way you would, cause you know, we have nothing else to do.

[betiko]

Sorry it took me so long to post, guys - I was a bit stunned by the results of the night.

I'm going to think out loud for a bit - maybe I can make sense out of my confusion, or maybe someone else can, if not me.

betiko's posts give me the impression that he feels like he's backed into a corner, though that in itself doesn't necessarily imply guilt or innocence.
If he is scum, he'd have known IB was scum, too, right? So then why would he have tried to get IB lynched? So town would think he was innocent? Seems logical enough.
If he wasn't scum, though, he wouldn't have known IB was scum, so what would have made him try to get IB lynched? He mentions his username being a tipoff, but I highly doubt that - iron is a metal, not a metalloid, and besides, that kind of username/role association seems like the kind of thing a mod would want to avoid. *sniff* Yeah, I think I smell a fish.

vote betiko

For what it's worth (which is probably nothing), I'm not 100% convinced either way on the theory that noble gas = VT. I understand the rationale behind it, chemically speaking, and there is definitely the possibility that NoS and betiko are both fakeclaiming VT, though this is unlikely given only 2 scum left (or are there more than that?). However, there is also the definite possibility that they're both telling the truth. This game may not be using all of the noble gases, and neon might actually be a town PR because of its proximity to fluorine.

Does any of that actually mean anything, or am I just babbling?

In other news, do you guys have always to look at me ONLY from the paranoid spectrum, and when you expose your mental masturbations, can you at least show this OR that happened? Meaning all of you just make up your lalaland story only from the perspective of me being scum and it seems like me telling the truth doesn't fit in your little heads just like what happened in batman...
Of course i feel pressured, what do you think? i was about to get lynched yesterday and i get all these votes because of a stupidity. anyway, maybe you should just lynch me cause i can't stand when games reach this point where you have a role you can't prove and whatever you say is always seen as scum wifom. just no point in playing. you guys already have my claim and aren't even trying to get someone else, so you will have learnt nothing from day 2, even if we got real lucky with the night result and can afford it

[sempaispellcheck]

Hi guys, I won't read the ten pages I've missed, so a sum up would be greatly appreciated. I'm scummy for not being active obviously but other than that what has been said?

wow,that just makes me want to help you so much! 10 pages to read, poor thing! let us all read back for you and try to see things from your perspective of whatever role you have and sumarize things in the way you would, cause you know, we have nothing else to do.

unvote vote Gillipig

Laziness (not making an effort) is a cardinal sin in my book.

[DoomYoshi]

Unvote vote gillipig

[jonty125]

vote Gillipig its only 10 pages, its not hard to read up just 10 pages.

[NoSurvivors]

I dont know that gillipig would be the best option here.. not reading=scum? just need to know what the logic is there.. gillipig just read....

[jonty125]

I dont know that gillipig would be the best option here.. not reading=scum? just need to know what the logic is there.. gillipig just read....

Well its skimming and its if he's not going to make an effort now, who's to say he's going to make an effort hunting scum.

[NoSurvivors]

I dont know that gillipig would be the best option here.. not reading=scum? just need to know what the logic is there.. gillipig just read....

Well its skimming and its if he's not going to make an effort now, who's to say he's going to make an effort hunting scum.

True, but my only problem lynching him is, what if he has a useful role? a random lynch = less town? (unless he isnt town, idk I cant really tell)

[thechuck51]

I dont know that gillipig would be the best option here.. not reading=scum? just need to know what the logic is there.. gillipig just read....

Not reading/skimming implies that you don't need to look through people's posts to scum hunt because you already know who the scum are (because you are scum). If he is somebody important, then maybe he should be keeping up with the game so he can use whatever night action he has in the best manner possible.