Netherlands [Quenched]

Qwert · Post by **Qwert** » Tue May 01, 2007 2:27 pm

1 moment boberz, if map author say "I dont know how to change these, can you help me, i will give you map to change you" what you will say "These you map, you find a way to change these" or you will say "Ok, i will help you".
My opinion is next, that if you give some opinion like"These borders is not good" then you must help to borders been better. But when you say " If you dont know how to change, stop work in map" these mean that you dont care for these map.
Like you , i also have opinion, and i think that borders is good.

Wisse · Post by **Wisse** » Tue May 01, 2007 2:52 pm

Lone.prophet wrote:i really think there wasnt a problem ur just being gay as is the rest of the whining people

i think there is a problem with you or your map if there are to many people whining don't you think?

Guiscard · Post by **Guiscard** » Tue May 01, 2007 3:06 pm

qwert wrote:1 moment boberz, if map author say "I dont know how to change these, can you help me, i will give you map to change you" what you will say "These you map, you find a way to change these" or you will say "Ok, i will help you".
My opinion is next, that if you give some opinion like"These borders is not good" then you must help to borders been better. But when you say " If you dont know how to change, stop work in map" these mean that you dont care for these map.
Like you , i also have opinion, and i think that borders is good.

Qwert stop causing trouble. I never said I'd complete the map, nor did anyone else. We said we'd take a look and give him advise. At NO POINT has anyone said they'd make the change.

If it had been a pretty easy update I'd certainly have done it, but quite frankly I'm not prepared to completely re-do the borders. I've taken a good look and given advice to the best of my ability.

If you're not gonna give constructive comments please don't comment at all.

Qwert · Post by **Qwert** » Tue May 01, 2007 4:49 pm

I dont causing trouble, i just want to understand, who must to fix these border "problem" if lone dont know how to fix, and these is constructive comment. I just want to heard logical explanation in these issue nothing else.

Guiscard · Post by **Guiscard** » Tue May 01, 2007 6:11 pm

qwert wrote:I dont causing trouble, i just want to understand, who must to fix these border "problem" if lone dont know how to fix, and these is constructive comment. I just want to heard logical explanation in these issue nothing else.

I've told him what, in my opinion, needs doing after looking at the psd file. I'm just not gonna do it myself. It really is none of your business to start coming into other map threads and sparking up trouble Qwert. Your only gonna make it more difficult for yourself to be ever taken seriously.

Lone.prophet · Post by **Lone.prophet** » Wed May 02, 2007 4:46 am

boberz wrote:
Lone.prophet wrote:this hole foundry is a joke with on the top some dictators
who is forcing you to continue the map if you dont want to do it, this is not your site and the person that owns the site has asked certain other people to ensure that the maps on the website are top notch, nobody is forcing you to change stuff that belongs to you. If you like the map as it is print it off and play it with your mates. If you want it on the site then abide by the procedurs

Only the current maps arent top notch as i said the european map is an ugly creation and on the CLASSIC map the bug where you cant see blue army numbers in eurepe isnt fixed so u dont come with it needs to be top notch !!!!!!

Wisse · Post by **Wisse** » Wed May 02, 2007 4:54 am

Lone.prophet wrote:
boberz wrote:
Lone.prophet wrote:this hole foundry is a joke with on the top some dictators
who is forcing you to continue the map if you dont want to do it, this is not your site and the person that owns the site has asked certain other people to ensure that the maps on the website are top notch, nobody is forcing you to change stuff that belongs to you. If you like the map as it is print it off and play it with your mates. If you want it on the site then abide by the procedurs
Only the current maps arent top notch as i said the european map is an ugly creation and on the CLASSIC map the bug where you cant see blue army numbers in eurepe isnt fixed so u dont come with it needs to be top notch !!!!!!

well where are you w8ing for? make a revamp...

boberz · Post by **boberz** » Wed May 02, 2007 9:41 am

Lone.prophet wrote:
boberz wrote:
Lone.prophet wrote:this hole foundry is a joke with on the top some dictators
who is forcing you to continue the map if you dont want to do it, this is not your site and the person that owns the site has asked certain other people to ensure that the maps on the website are top notch, nobody is forcing you to change stuff that belongs to you. If you like the map as it is print it off and play it with your mates. If you want it on the site then abide by the procedurs
Only the current maps arent top notch as i said the european map is an ugly creation and on the CLASSIC map the bug where you cant see blue army numbers in eurepe isnt fixed so u dont come with it needs to be top notch !!!!!!

the fact that the newer maps that were made with this system are so much better than the maps that were made before the system demonstrates my point

Lone.prophet · Post by **Lone.prophet** » Wed May 02, 2007 3:56 pm

sure be childish and stay with your point

boberz · Post by **boberz** » Thu May 03, 2007 9:27 am

??? im not actually joking can you explain how i am being the childish one

Wisse · Post by **Wisse** » Thu May 03, 2007 3:15 pm

boberz wrote:??? im not actually joking can you explain how i am being the childish one

you are not childish, he is.
he thinks something isn't wrong, but much people do complain about it and he still thinks nothing is wrong

the same as that bush would say that he would destroy america (its an example not reallity) and no-one agrees (mayby only a few) and there are biljons of people who disagree and he thinks he is doing right
(i repeat this was just an example not the reallity)

Qwert · Post by **Qwert** » Thu May 03, 2007 4:49 pm

wisse dont forget he ofer that some map author solve these border "problem" and if nobody can solve these "problem" then what will hepend?

johloh · Post by **johloh** » Thu May 03, 2007 5:15 pm

its not that nobody can solve the problem...its that people dont want to do his map for him...guis and others have their own maps to work on...

its not a foundry solution that whenever you dont want to fix something you just say 'i dont want to do it, someone else has to or it wont get fixed'. how does that even make sense?

if you want to complete a map for conquer club you do it within the restrictions and the system that is here...plenty of people do this and have completed maps...

if you dont like the system then dont make a map for conquer club. the never ending whining has gotten old...

Qwert · Post by **Qwert** » Thu May 03, 2007 5:22 pm

How strange. But if some guys have free time to do comlete rewamp of some map, then for hem these will bee easy, and everybody will be hapy.
If i understand you Johloh, if nobody want to help Lone,then he can abandoned map because nobody care for these map.

n_warmerdam · Post by **n_warmerdam** » Fri May 04, 2007 12:53 am

should do a poll... is the Netherlands map ready or not? Lets see what the masses think.

Personally, i think its ready to go and i'm looking forward to playing it.

Qwert · Post by **Qwert** » Fri May 04, 2007 2:49 am

n_warmerdam Posted: 04 May 2007 05:53 Post subject:

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should do a poll... is the Netherlands map ready or not? Lets see what the masses think.

Personally, i think its ready to go and i'm looking forward to playing it.

These will solve problem, but like i say before, here minority rules, dont majority, and these poll,even 90% people want to play,be reject from 1 or 2 people. In my Eastern front map over 60% people say that map ready for play, but Foundry foreman dont want to apply these poll, and also i belive that he reject Lone poll to. Well he can try, and if poll be positive for hem, he will know if hes map finish.

Wisse · Post by **Wisse** » Fri May 04, 2007 5:58 am

qwert wrote:wisse dont forget he ofer that some map author solve these border "problem" and if nobody can solve these "problem" then what will hepend?

read, i already wrote that we can solve the problem if only he would make the border 2px and not copying the border.
but now it is a 1px border and with that we can't do anything

Guiscard · Post by **Guiscard** » Fri May 04, 2007 6:44 am

qwert wrote:
n_warmerdam Posted: 04 May 2007 05:53 Post subject:

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should do a poll... is the Netherlands map ready or not? Lets see what the masses think.

Personally, i think its ready to go and i'm looking forward to playing it.

These will solve problem, but like i say before, here minority rules, dont majority, and these poll,even 90% people want to play,be reject from 1 or 2 people. In my Eastern front map over 60% people say that map ready for play, but Foundry foreman dont want to apply these poll, and also i belive that he reject Lone poll to. Well he can try, and if poll be positive for hem, he will know if hes map finish.

Qwert this is the exact same argument you had in your Eastern Front thread.

What happened there? Did it get quenched?

Whats the point, mate... Just let it go and let the Foundry work. If your not willing to work with the foundry then there's no point carrying on.

Lone.prophet · Post by **Lone.prophet** » Fri May 04, 2007 6:47 am

i think the foundry should work with the mapmakers not otherwise

Wisse · Post by **Wisse** » Fri May 04, 2007 7:11 am

Lone.prophet wrote:i think the foundry should work with the mapmakers not otherwise

i think you must read what other people say...

boberz · Post by **boberz** » Fri May 04, 2007 9:32 am

qwert wrote:
n_warmerdam Posted: 04 May 2007 05:53 Post subject:

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should do a poll... is the Netherlands map ready or not? Lets see what the masses think.

Personally, i think its ready to go and i'm looking forward to playing it.

These will solve problem, but like i say before, here minority rules, dont majority, and these poll,even 90% people want to play,be reject from 1 or 2 people. In my Eastern front map over 60% people say that map ready for play, but Foundry foreman dont want to apply these poll, and also i belive that he reject Lone poll to. Well he can try, and if poll be positive for hem, he will know if hes map finish.

i prefered it when you decided to give up the foundry

Qwert · Post by **Qwert** » Fri May 04, 2007 11:21 am

Lone.prophet Posted: 04 May 2007 11:47 Post subject:

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i think the foundry should work with the mapmakers not otherwise

That why i abandoned my map, because i must to obey every litle thing who some people say, even if these guys dont better map makers then i.

Guiscard Posted: 04 May 2007 11:44 Post subject:

Qwert this is the exact same argument you had in your Eastern Front thread.

What happened there? Did it get quenched?

Whats the point, mate... Just let it go and let the Foundry work. If your not willing to work with the foundry then there's no point carrying on.

ok im confuse. These is not yours topic, and when i say something in yours topic you ignore me, but here when i give support to lone, you want to me out here,Why? I want to help lone to not surender easy, and in these condition its better for map to be not quenched. I see that Andy very fast forged and quenched others map, these second very importan question, and i belive that quality of new map, not best then old maps, and still i dont see any perfect map.

Wisse · Post by **Wisse** » Fri May 04, 2007 11:41 am

and i think we need help from lack

Qwert · Post by **Qwert** » Fri May 04, 2007 12:54 pm

Wisse Posted: 04 May 2007 16:41 Post subject:

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and i think we need help from lack

Yes we definitly need help from lack, because only two person is not satisfy with borders, and i belive that more people dont see any problems with borders.

Coleman · Post by **Coleman** » Fri May 04, 2007 12:58 pm

I have some complaints...

Where the hell is the most recent map? It's really hard to join the arguments/see what's up when you don't have a pg reference in the title.

I'd like to know what's up at the moment. Did Andy and/or Keyogi ask for something and it hasn't happened? Or is it something else?