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http://www.ecns.cn/in-depth/2011/11-15/3837.shtmltzor wrote:No.
When you publish the names of gun owners, robbers can know who to rob to get guns.
When you publish the names of people who have had abortions, what can robbers "rob" from them?
Try the fact that you probably are not even aware that any miscarriage is an "abortion".pretender77 wrote:Why or why not?
PLAYER57832 wrote:Try the fact that you probably are not even aware that any miscarriage is an "abortion".pretender77 wrote:Why or why not?
Don't believe me... try looking up the medical definition.
And once you do that, try looking up some other facts, since you seem to have an opinion on this subject.... but not many facts.
JESUS SAVES!!!PLAYER57832 wrote:Too many of those who claim they don't believe global warming are really "end-timer" Christians.
That's because the typical liberal doesn't want to be bold and admit that there are some cases where innocent human life can be justifiably terminated. That step is logically necessary for the liberal case to be self-consistent, but it can be if that is done.jay_a2j wrote:PLAYER57832 wrote:Try the fact that you probably are not even aware that any miscarriage is an "abortion".pretender77 wrote:Why or why not?
Don't believe me... try looking up the medical definition.
And once you do that, try looking up some other facts, since you seem to have an opinion on this subject.... but not many facts.
Try the fact that there is a big difference between a natural "abortion" and the medical procedure. One can not be aided nor stopped by a human being, the other is caused by a human being. The MOMENT you choicers admit human life exists, you have lost the argument.
Certainly, one cannot take seriously the notion that buck-toothed children will promote liberal causes.2dimes wrote:Like when a buck toothed chick you tagged while drinking gets pregnant?That's because the typical liberal doesn't want to be bold and admit that there are some cases where innocent human life can be justifiably terminated.
jay_a2j wrote:PLAYER57832 wrote:Try the fact that you probably are not even aware that any miscarriage is an "abortion".pretender77 wrote:Why or why not?
Don't believe me... try looking up the medical definition.
And once you do that, try looking up some other facts, since you seem to have an opinion on this subject.... but not many facts.
Try the fact that there is a big difference between a natural "abortion" and the medical procedure. One can not be aided nor stopped by a human being, the other is caused by a human being. The MOMENT you choicers admit human life exists, you have lost the argument.
I'm not sure that is what Player was arguing, more that much of the so-called conservative side of the debate tends to ignore the actual practicalities of what abortion means in medical terms in favour of emotive politicking. If Jay is proposing a discussion of whether women who have abortions should be named and shamed, the obvious answer is no, but respect to Player for at least taking on the legal ramifications of politicians redefining a medical term to suit their own, more narrow, agenda.Metsfanmax wrote:That's because the typical liberal doesn't want to be bold and admit that there are some cases where innocent human life can be justifiably terminated. That step is logically necessary for the liberal case to be self-consistent, but it can be if that is done.jay_a2j wrote:PLAYER57832 wrote:Try the fact that you probably are not even aware that any miscarriage is an "abortion".pretender77 wrote:Why or why not?
Don't believe me... try looking up the medical definition.
And once you do that, try looking up some other facts, since you seem to have an opinion on this subject.... but not many facts.
Try the fact that there is a big difference between a natural "abortion" and the medical procedure. One can not be aided nor stopped by a human being, the other is caused by a human being. The MOMENT you choicers admit human life exists, you have lost the argument.
Aye, a fair bit of what strident anti-abortionists ignore, apart from the obvious medical terms they dislike, is that the sperm meets egg personhood arguments are pretty lethal. They simply kill women.Timminz wrote:I suppose publishing names and addresses of people who've had abortions is a bit better than arresting pregnant women for considering having one. Only a bit though.
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/01/14/t ... pregnancy/
Player, please post the link to the site that shows why women have abortions since you want to bring some facts.PLAYER57832 wrote:Try the fact that you probably are not even aware that any miscarriage is an "abortion".pretender77 wrote:Why or why not?
Don't believe me... try looking up the medical definition.
And once you do that, try looking up some other facts, since you seem to have an opinion on this subject.... but not many facts.
Johnny Rockets wrote:
Out of curiosity how much time and dollars have you and pretender allocated to help foster kids in the past year?
Donations of time or money to shelters, send kids to camp charities, your involvement in Big Brothers or Big Sisters?
Anything? Anything at all?
I thought not.
Try working on the kids out there that need your guidance, support and a good role model, and less focus on a bunch of backwards ideology over a thimble full of tissue.
JRock
JESUS SAVES!!!PLAYER57832 wrote:Too many of those who claim they don't believe global warming are really "end-timer" Christians.
Why, Mr. Contrarian?thegreekdog wrote:Player, please post the link to the site that shows why women have abortions since you want to bring some facts.PLAYER57832 wrote:Try the fact that you probably are not even aware that any miscarriage is an "abortion".pretender77 wrote:Why or why not?
Don't believe me... try looking up the medical definition.
And once you do that, try looking up some other facts, since you seem to have an opinion on this subject.... but not many facts.
I think we should publish names and addresses of people that have abortions.
Napoleon Ier wrote:You people need to grow up to be honest.
Can I step in instead?thegreekdog wrote:Player, please post the link to the site that shows why women have abortions since you want to bring some facts.PLAYER57832 wrote:Try the fact that you probably are not even aware that any miscarriage is an "abortion".pretender77 wrote:Why or why not?
Don't believe me... try looking up the medical definition.
And once you do that, try looking up some other facts, since you seem to have an opinion on this subject.... but not many facts.
I think we should publish names and addresses of people that have abortions.
LinkSpontaneous abortion (SAB), or miscarriage, is the term used for a pregnancy that ends on its own, within the first 20 weeks of gestation. The medical name spontaneous abortion (SAB) gives many women a negative feeling, so throughout this article we will refer to any type of spontaneous abortion or pregnancy loss under 20 weeks as miscarriage.
Miscarriage is the most common type of pregnancy loss, according to the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists (ACOG). Studies reveal that anywhere from 10-25% of all clinically recognized pregnancies will end in miscarriage. Chemical pregnancies may account for 50-75% of all miscarriages. This occurs when a pregnancy is lost shortly after implantation, resulting in bleeding that occurs around the time of her expected period. The woman may not realize that she conceived when she experiences a chemical pregnancy.
Why not? They're publishing the names of legal gun owners.Symmetry wrote:I don't think we should publish the names.
Two wrongs make a right?Night Strike wrote:Why not? They're publishing the names of legal gun owners.Symmetry wrote:I don't think we should publish the names.
Neither should be published. But if they're going to go around publishing names of people who are licensed to own a gun yet have done absolutely nothing to harm another person with it, then they definitely should be publishing the names of those who have actually killed unborn humans.Bones2484 wrote:Two wrongs make a right?Night Strike wrote:Why not? They're publishing the names of legal gun owners.Symmetry wrote:I don't think we should publish the names.
You're welcome to read my arguments above, in which I point out that I disagree with both. And that the Blaze simply posted both, via links. That you felt it a good idea because of a misplaced sense of revenge (did the people who read the paper post the gun-owners names? No) is remarkably poor. That you chose to republicise both that list and the list of people via the Blaze, smacks of hypocrisy.Night Strike wrote:Why not? They're publishing the names of legal gun owners.Symmetry wrote:I don't think we should publish the names.