We finally get what we asked for, and spent years of research on: an official Zelda Timeline. I am picking up a copy of the textbook this weekend. As someone who spent several internet debates on the problems with the basic split timeline theory (that's the theory that after Ocarina of Time, the timeline splits. One path goes to Majora's Mask and the other goes to Windwaker), I have a vested interest in this.
I have been warned that I will be disappointed. They fucking retconned it, the bastards. I will be back to bitch.
Last edited by DoomYoshi on Thu Feb 14, 2013 8:57 pm, edited 1 time in total.
BigBallinStalin wrote:Sounds like unsurprisingly sloppy work. How can you expect a general story to be consistent when it switches the hands of so many writers/companies?
What's the big deal here?
For reference: Spoiler
Twilight Princess:
Developer: Nintendo EAD
Publisher: Nintendo
Director: Eiji Aonuma
Producer: Shigeru Miyamoto
Writers: Mitsuhiro Takano, Aya Kyogoku, Takayuki Ikkaku, Eiji Aonuma
Majora's Mask
Developer: Nintendo EAD
Publisher: Nintendo
Directors: Eiji Aonuma, Yoshiaki Koizumi
Producer: Shigeru Miyamoto
Writers: Mitsuhiro Takano, Shigeru Miyamoto, Yoshiaki Koizumi
Wind Waker
Developer: Nintendo EAD
Publisher: Nintendo
Directors: Eiji Aonuma
Producer: Shigeru Miyamoto, Takashi Tezuka
Writers: Mitsuhiro Takano, Hajime Takahashi, Eiji Aonuma
As far as video games go, that's not too much switching in production. Most names are repeated, and they're all done by Nintendo. The only other company to really produce a Zelda game (if you call it that) was when it was released for the Famicom system in Japan forever ago. What you talkin' 'bout BBS?
DoomYoshi wrote:We finally get what we asked for, and spent years of research on: an official Zelda Timeline. I am picking up a copy of the textbook this weekend. As someone who spent several internet debates on the problems with the basic split timeline theory (that's the theory that after Ocarina of Time, the timeline splits. One path goes to Majora's Mask and the other goes to Windwaker), I have a vested interest in this.
I have been warned that I will be disappointed. They fucking retconned it, the bastards. I will be back to bitch.
Amazon says 5 stars, after 140 ratings... I don't think that's too shabby.
DoomYoshi wrote:We finally get what we asked for, and spent years of research on: an official Zelda Timeline. I am picking up a copy of the textbook this weekend. As someone who spent several internet debates on the problems with the basic split timeline theory (that's the theory that after Ocarina of Time, the timeline splits. One path goes to Majora's Mask and the other goes to Windwaker), I have a vested interest in this.
I have been warned that I will be disappointed. They fucking retconned it, the bastards. I will be back to bitch.
Amazon says 5 stars, after 140 ratings... I don't think that's too shabby.
Let me put this into perspective for you:
The benchmark of the Zelda community is timeline theorizing - Zelda lovers flock from far and wide to the respective community fansites and stack their evidence, game knowledge, and experience against other Zelda fans, all towards attempting to make sense of the convoluted timeline that has become one of the most popular aspects of the franchise.
This is as if God came down from Heaven and says "Oh yea, I was wrong about the Hebrews, they aren't my chosen race at all, it's the...."
It's on that level of magnitude. This is Hyrule we are talking about! These earthly reviews mean nothing.
I am hoping actually now that we have a codified timeline that when they rerelease the games (as we all know Nintendo loves to do) that they will update the timeline references in them.
BigBallinStalin wrote:Sounds like unsurprisingly sloppy work. How can you expect a general story to be consistent when it switches the hands of so many writers/companies?
What's the big deal here?
For reference: Spoiler
Twilight Princess:
Developer: Nintendo EAD
Publisher: Nintendo
Director: Eiji Aonuma
Producer: Shigeru Miyamoto
Writers: Mitsuhiro Takano, Aya Kyogoku, Takayuki Ikkaku, Eiji Aonuma
Majora's Mask
Developer: Nintendo EAD
Publisher: Nintendo
Directors: Eiji Aonuma, Yoshiaki Koizumi
Producer: Shigeru Miyamoto
Writers: Mitsuhiro Takano, Shigeru Miyamoto, Yoshiaki Koizumi
Wind Waker
Developer: Nintendo EAD
Publisher: Nintendo
Directors: Eiji Aonuma
Producer: Shigeru Miyamoto, Takashi Tezuka
Writers: Mitsuhiro Takano, Hajime Takahashi, Eiji Aonuma
As far as video games go, that's not too much switching in production. Most names are repeated, and they're all done by Nintendo. The only other company to really produce a Zelda game (if you call it that) was when it was released for the Famicom system in Japan forever ago. What you talkin' 'bout BBS?
BMO
Wow. I expected it to be something other than "they're stupid/don't give a shit."
Actually, rds, you are a bit wrong too. Other companies have released fairy rupee tingle land oR whatever it was called, as well as the Phillips cdi games. We sidestepped that by just calling those games non-canon. And everything that NoA ever did or said - non-canon. (for example, they call him Gannon).
DoomYoshi wrote:We finally get what we asked for, and spent years of research on: an official Zelda Timeline. I am picking up a copy of the textbook this weekend. As someone who spent several internet debates on the problems with the basic split timeline theory (that's the theory that after Ocarina of Time, the timeline splits. One path goes to Majora's Mask and the other goes to Windwaker), I have a vested interest in this.
I have been warned that I will be disappointed. They fucking retconned it, the bastards. I will be back to bitch.
Amazon says 5 stars, after 140 ratings... I don't think that's too shabby.
Let me put this into perspective for you:
The benchmark of the Zelda community is timeline theorizing - Zelda lovers flock from far and wide to the respective community fansites and stack their evidence, game knowledge, and experience against other Zelda fans, all towards attempting to make sense of the convoluted timeline that has become one of the most popular aspects of the franchise.
This is as if God came down from Heaven and says "Oh yea, I was wrong about the Hebrews, they aren't my chosen race at all, it's the...."
It's on that level of magnitude. This is Hyrule we are talking about! These earthly reviews mean nothing.
Fair enough, but it's still something. I'll get it when there's a Kindle version.
DoomYoshi wrote:Actually, rds, you are a bit wrong too. Other companies have released fairy rupee tingle land oR whatever it was called, as well as the Phillips cdi games. We sidestepped that by just calling those games non-canon. And everything that NoA ever did or said - non-canon. (for example, they call him Gannon).
I'm aware of Tingle's Rosee Rupee land, and the Phillips CDi no one talks about. I was only mostly sticking with Mainstream games that affected the story, per the discussion at hand.
Night Strike wrote:Just got mine delivered and apparently ordered it just in time.......currently ships within 1-2 months on Amazon.
Yea, its in stock in some stores, so I guess we are just lucky in Canada. As I speak, it is probably being gobbled up by unscrupulous investors. I should've got it last weekend like I planned.
Hey, the site Hyrule Hustlers is doing a Zelda Marathon for Child's Play charity. Not my favourite charity, but if you donate, you can win prizes. They are already obligated to play 55 hours of Zelda in a row, so consider giving some money to push that number higher.
