Racist influences in childhood, but you don't realize it.

[Lootifer]

Incidently I just started reading "Stranger in a Strange Land" for the first time (I know right?!) and it shows an interesting insight into (at least in the first few chapters) the language and attitude towards woman in the 50s and 60s.

[BigBallinStalin]

Incidently I just started reading "Stranger in a Strange Land" for the first time (I know right?!) and it shows an interesting insight into (at least in the first few chapters) Heinlein's language and attitude towards woman in the 50s and 60s.

FTFY, but yeah, his interpretation to some degree is correct for x-amount of human interactions.

[Woodruff]

Once a person is subject to certain situations or images their brain will log that memory in as a certain level of fear/enjoyment. As early as 2-3 years old these situations can mold a person very subtle. For instance language on Tv. It has become a lot filthier over time. You couldn't say asshole or bitch when I was growing up but you can now. So children who watch a show that talks like that will grow to think it is alright when the parents disagree. Who will look like the fool? Probably the parent at first since it will be only the parent saying it is wrong against millions in society who say its right. Not all children will follow the pack but it makes it harder to raise these kids with respect and morals.

I swore like a sailor when I was in gradeschool. It had to do with my peers, not anything I saw on television.

[Nobunaga]

This thread is ridiculous. You Americans are worse than the Germans what with their Nazi-phobia.

Get over yourselves.

We are not permitted to do so, sadly. Race is shoved in your face on a very regular basis in this country.

[Woodruff]

Incidently I just started reading "Stranger in a Strange Land" for the first time (I know right?!) and it shows an interesting insight into (at least in the first few chapters) the language and attitude towards woman in the 50s and 60s.

Dude, seriously? I stand here...shocked.

(Not about the language/attitude...I knew that...about you not having read it!)

[Woodruff]

This thread is ridiculous. You Americans are worse than the Germans what with their Nazi-phobia.

Get over yourselves.

We are not permitted to do so, sadly. Race is shoved in your face on a very regular basis in this country.

I don't really see it that much, to be honest. I mean, I see it occasionally, sure...but where is it shoved in your face so routinely?

[Nobunaga]

This thread is ridiculous. You Americans are worse than the Germans what with their Nazi-phobia.

Get over yourselves.

We are not permitted to do so, sadly. Race is shoved in your face on a very regular basis in this country.

I don't really see it that much, to be honest. I mean, I see it occasionally, sure...but where is it shoved in your face so routinely?

Television. "News", sitcoms, dramas, etc... Internet news. LA Times, Washington Post, doesn't matter. There's no escaping it.

[BigBallinStalin]

Oh, by 'race' do you mean the categorization of humans according to skin color?

If so, yeah, that's prevalent, but I'm not sure how most people interpret that. In other words, as the general speaker talks obsessively in such categories, how much is the general listener affected?

[Lootifer]

This thread is ridiculous. You Americans are worse than the Germans what with their Nazi-phobia.

Get over yourselves.

We are not permitted to do so, sadly. Race is shoved in your face on a very regular basis in this country.

I don't really see it that much, to be honest. I mean, I see it occasionally, sure...but where is it shoved in your face so routinely?

Television. "News", sitcoms, dramas, etc... Internet news. LA Times, Washington Post, doesn't matter. There's no escaping it.

Oh poor little Nobunga has to put up with a bit of positive reinforcement regarding minority races...

#firstworldproblems

[tzor]

I saw a ton of racist things as a child and that was mild compared to the racist garbage that was produced in cartoons during WWII, which were so bad that even in the 1960's they were censored (a significant number being against Japan ... it's interesting to note how differently we treated the German and Japanese enemies in that war). But to be fair, they insulted everybody, even the Canadians. Of of my best examples is one where Elmer Fudd was a Canadian Mountie. Eventually he captures Bugs and has him up on a firing line. He is given a final request. He says...
"I wish ... I wish ... I wish I was in Dixie"

Suddenly all the Mounties have black face on. The current practice is to abruptly cut the cartoon at the second "I wish."

One of my childhood stories in books was about an African child, a tiger, and a chase around a tree that turned the tiger to butter.

I never did see the "Song of the South" because when I was a child, Disney used to rotate films on a nearly generational basis. Occasionally they would show parts of them on their TV program. Even Fantasia was only seen by me in bits and pieces as a child.

There is an odd thing about such racist things; they are often so blatant that they pass over the heads of children. I always thought the Sambo story was very insulting to tigers.

[john9blue]

[Woodruff]

This thread is ridiculous. You Americans are worse than the Germans what with their Nazi-phobia.

Get over yourselves.

We are not permitted to do so, sadly. Race is shoved in your face on a very regular basis in this country.

I don't really see it that much, to be honest. I mean, I see it occasionally, sure...but where is it shoved in your face so routinely?

Television. "News", sitcoms, dramas, etc... Internet news. LA Times, Washington Post, doesn't matter. There's no escaping it.

I really don't see it that much. You must watch some weird shows.

[muy_thaiguy]

A lot of Japanese anime has a bad habbit of portraying black people as a stereotype not too different from that, but throw in an afro, 70s clothes, sunglasses, and random gestures (along with what you see in the Jynx photo) and you pretty much have what you see in a lot of Japanese anime. Not all, there are exceptions, but quite a few.

Also to note, they portray most characters from the US, Canada, or Europe (Britain and Russia are included) as blonde haired and blue eyed.

[Gillipig]

This thread is ridiculous. You Americans are worse than the Germans what with their Nazi-phobia.

Get over yourselves.

We are not permitted to do so, sadly. Race is shoved in your face on a very regular basis in this country.

I don't really see it that much, to be honest. I mean, I see it occasionally, sure...but where is it shoved in your face so routinely?

Television. "News", sitcoms, dramas, etc... Internet news. LA Times, Washington Post, doesn't matter. There's no escaping it.

I really don't see it that much. You must watch some weird shows.

Either that or you see the same thing but don't realize what you're seeing. Oooh the plot thickens....

[Army of GOD]

I guess I was fortunate to be raised in a mixed neighborhood and to attend schools with about a 70/30 split (70% white, 30% minority). I've never given it much thought.

Somebody here said we should celebrate how far we've come... Perhaps we've pushed it a bit too far.

My eldest (public elementary school student) has a calendar book from school he brings home every day. In this book are notes from the day and assignment due, etc... This book also includes "life lessons" about being studious, being fair, treating everybody with respect... the usual type stuff I guess. That's all well and good. But the cartoon character kids in this book who appear on every other page caught my attention.

I actually counted them out (yeah, I'm like that). I don't remember the exact numbers for any of the races/genders represented but for the white boys... as there was a total of 2. The east Asian kids numbered well over ten, as did the black, perhaps hispanic (hard to tell exactly from a cartoon), and south Asian kids. There were somewhere close to ten white girls also.

Like I said, I don't have the exact counts (except for the white boys, as "2" is quite easy to recall).

I didn't lose any sleep over this, but I found it somewhat odd. Somewhere, somebody in state education made this decision consciously. To what end?

Just like how movie/tv producers put an abnormally high amount of white people in their shit?

C'mon, get the f*ck over it.

[BigBallinStalin]

I declare that 0.03% of all the characters in every film, new article, novel, poem, etc., shall be transgendered or transsexual.

If my demands aren't met, I will furiously complain about under-representation and bias in the media.

[Nobunaga]

I guess I was fortunate to be raised in a mixed neighborhood and to attend schools with about a 70/30 split (70% white, 30% minority). I've never given it much thought.

Somebody here said we should celebrate how far we've come... Perhaps we've pushed it a bit too far.

My eldest (public elementary school student) has a calendar book from school he brings home every day. In this book are notes from the day and assignment due, etc... This book also includes "life lessons" about being studious, being fair, treating everybody with respect... the usual type stuff I guess. That's all well and good. But the cartoon character kids in this book who appear on every other page caught my attention.

I actually counted them out (yeah, I'm like that). I don't remember the exact numbers for any of the races/genders represented but for the white boys... as there was a total of 2. The east Asian kids numbered well over ten, as did the black, perhaps hispanic (hard to tell exactly from a cartoon), and south Asian kids. There were somewhere close to ten white girls also.

Like I said, I don't have the exact counts (except for the white boys, as "2" is quite easy to recall).

I didn't lose any sleep over this, but I found it somewhat odd. Somewhere, somebody in state education made this decision consciously. To what end?

Just like how movie/tv producers put an abnormally high amount of white people in their shit?

C'mon, get the f*ck over it.

White people are seventy some percent of the population. Seems reasonable.