[THE DEPARTED MAFIA] -MAFIA WIN!- (dom and freezie)

Aimless · Post by **Aimless** » Fri May 11, 2007 12:11 am

You know, I guess there's no point in not voting, and I might as well get the day started.

Vote Colaalone

LSU Tiger Josh · Post by **LSU Tiger Josh** » Fri May 11, 2007 12:23 am

Aimless wrote:I guess I should give a bit more explanation on that FOS, but it's mostly a gut. At any rate, it's based off of the following :

twig posted his whacked out chart yesterday, in response to which mandalorian came out with another of his insane theories - that twig was the mole, and the people in white were scum. Colaalone came back with "that theory would require twig having a clue," and proceeded to vote twig.

So, here's the way my suspicion works : if Colaalone were town, he would know for a fact that twig's chart, and hence mandalorian's theory, was fruity; but, if that's the case, it was pretty obvious that twig was just a n00b townie, so why vote?

On the other hand, if Colaalone were scum, he would also know for a fact that mandalorian's theory was fruity (the mafia should believe that the mole is one of them; twig was a townie), but that twig had been right by accident. Lynching twig would kill a townie and also prove twig wasn't hiding any information in his chart.

Cola's a smart player; I'm pretty sure he knew twig was a townie yesterday. I can't see him pressing the lynch unless he was scum.

Very well thought out

Aimless · Post by **Aimless** » Fri May 11, 2007 12:31 am

LSU Tiger Josh wrote:Very well thought out

Well... I've just come up with a potential flaw in the argument. mandalorian targeted willis first; suspicion wasn't raised against Cola until I did so, at which point mandalorian linked my argument with the chart. If willis were town and Cola scum, Cola should have been perfectly happy to go for willis (unless he thought twig were the easier lynch); the only reason he'd be against that plan were if they were both scum.

Hmmm. I'd say with 50% confidence that if Cola is scum, willis probably is as well. And maybe 30% confidence that Cola is indeed scum.

Guilty_Biscuit · Post by **Guilty_Biscuit** » Fri May 11, 2007 3:15 am

I'll have to re-read then get back to you on that theory Aimless. Probably tonight because I have to do some work today or I'll get sacked

Good job there were no more townies killed last night - we've been lynching enough ourselves

Talapus · Post by **Talapus** » Fri May 11, 2007 4:44 am

LSU Tiger Josh wrote:
Aimless wrote:I guess I should give a bit more explanation on that FOS, but it's mostly a gut. At any rate, it's based off of the following :

twig posted his whacked out chart yesterday, in response to which mandalorian came out with another of his insane theories - that twig was the mole, and the people in white were scum. Colaalone came back with "that theory would require twig having a clue," and proceeded to vote twig.

So, here's the way my suspicion works : if Colaalone were town, he would know for a fact that twig's chart, and hence mandalorian's theory, was fruity; but, if that's the case, it was pretty obvious that twig was just a n00b townie, so why vote?

On the other hand, if Colaalone were scum, he would also know for a fact that mandalorian's theory was fruity (the mafia should believe that the mole is one of them; twig was a townie), but that twig had been right by accident. Lynching twig would kill a townie and also prove twig wasn't hiding any information in his chart.

Cola's a smart player; I'm pretty sure he knew twig was a townie yesterday. I can't see him pressing the lynch unless he was scum.

Very well thought out

This is actually making quite a bit a sense. Although it's nothing concrete, it's really something better then just random guesses. I'll agree with this and go with your line of reasoning and VOTE---Colaalone....just to see where this goes. If nothing else, this should get a good discussion going on.

sheepofdumb · Post by **sheepofdumb** » Fri May 11, 2007 5:50 am

That I'll go with it.

Vote: Cola

sheepofdumb · Post by **sheepofdumb** » Fri May 11, 2007 5:50 am

sheepofdumb wrote:Sounds good. I'll go with it.

Vote: Cola

Fixed.

Anarkistsdream · Post by **Anarkistsdream** » Fri May 11, 2007 9:47 am

There could be any number of reasons why nobody died last night, and I find it hard to believe that Cola wouldn't have killed someone. So, unless someone can honestly say that they blocked Cola last night... *shrug*

I'll re-read back thorugh some more and see what else I can dig up later.

diddle · Post by **diddle** » Fri May 11, 2007 9:53 am

i'm only voting to get a lynch, so you could say i'm bandwagoning, but i don't care vote cola

Guilty_Biscuit · Post by **Guilty_Biscuit** » Fri May 11, 2007 9:54 am

diddle wrote:i'm only voting to get a lynch, so you could say i'm bandwagoning, but i don't care vote cola

SCUM

diddle · Post by **diddle** » Fri May 11, 2007 9:57 am

Guilty_Biscuit wrote:
diddle wrote:i'm only voting to get a lynch, so you could say i'm bandwagoning, but i don't care vote cola
SCUM

why thankyou

[size=0]i thought that might happen[/size]

Guilty_Biscuit · Post by **Guilty_Biscuit** » Fri May 11, 2007 10:05 am

diddle wrote:
Guilty_Biscuit wrote:
diddle wrote:i'm only voting to get a lynch, so you could say i'm bandwagoning, but i don't care vote cola
SCUM
why thankyou

[size=0]i thought that might happen[/size]

[size=0]then why did you do it?[/size][/quote]

LSU Tiger Josh · Post by **LSU Tiger Josh** » Fri May 11, 2007 12:27 pm

FOS Diddle for admitting to bandwagonning

While they may be plausible right around the deadline still have a little time to get more information this day on who the scum is. Plus you could always change your vote later.

Aimless · Post by **Aimless** » Fri May 11, 2007 12:28 pm

diddle, if you aren't even going to try, don't play.

Anarkistsdream · Post by **Anarkistsdream** » Fri May 11, 2007 1:17 pm

My vote is

Vote: Dwight

for not participating

diddle · Post by **diddle** » Fri May 11, 2007 1:17 pm

Aimless wrote:diddle, if you aren't even going to try, don't play.

i am trying, unvote cola

vote Aimless for making pointless accusations

Anarkistsdream · Post by **Anarkistsdream** » Fri May 11, 2007 1:19 pm

diddle wrote:
Aimless wrote:diddle, if you aren't even going to try, don't play.
i am trying, unvote cola

vote Aimless for making pointless accusations

So you revenge vote???

That's retarded...

FOS: Diddle

diddle · Post by **diddle** » Fri May 11, 2007 1:22 pm

Anarkistsdream wrote:
diddle wrote:
Aimless wrote:diddle, if you aren't even going to try, don't play.
i am trying, unvote cola

vote Aimless for making pointless accusations
So you revenge vote???

That's retarded...

FOS: Diddle

yes maybe a little bit of revenge, but i didn't think his accusation was justified. every morning i read all the new pages to catch up on events, and just because i randomly voted, cos to be honest i have no idea who the mafia are, i don't think that means i'm not trying

mandalorian2298 · Post by **mandalorian2298** » Fri May 11, 2007 1:41 pm

Aimless wrote:I guess I should give a bit more explanation on that FOS, but it's mostly a gut. At any rate, it's based off of the following :

twig posted his whacked out chart yesterday, in response to which mandalorian came out with another of his insane theories - that twig was the mole, and the people in white were scum. Colaalone came back with "that theory would require twig having a clue," and proceeded to vote twig.

So, here's the way my suspicion works : if Colaalone were town, he would know for a fact that twig's chart, and hence mandalorian's theory, was fruity; but, if that's the case, it was pretty obvious that twig was just a n00b townie, so why vote?

On the other hand, if Colaalone were scum, he would also know for a fact that mandalorian's theory was fruity (the mafia should believe that the mole is one of them; twig was a townie), but that twig had been right by accident. Lynching twig would kill a townie and also prove twig wasn't hiding any information in his chart.

Cola's a smart player; I'm pretty sure he knew twig was a townie yesterday. I can't see him pressing the lynch unless he was scum.

Aimless wrote:You know, I guess there's no point in not voting, and I might as well get the day started.

Vote Colaalone

Metagaming: I never saw Aimless go after someone so directly when he is scum. Ergo, he is IMO townie.

I was voting Cola and Willis yesterday to find out if the infamous chart is worth the pixels that it occupies. I belive that my twiggy is "Underground Cop" theory might still be correct and Lion showed his corpse to be a Vanilla Townie in an effort to make things a bit harder for the Town, since following the chart would allow us to hunt down all Mafia with little effort and we would only have to worry about the Mole in the ranks of the Special Force. So:
vote Cola
In Chart I trust!

MountainLion · Post by **MountainLion** » Fri May 11, 2007 3:14 pm

OFFICIAL VOTE COUNT:

(4) Colaalone - Aimless, Talapus, sheepofdumb, mandalorian
dwightschrute - Anarkistsdream
Aimless - diddle

With 18 Alive, it takes 10 to Lynch!

*** Day 3 will END the Night of May 13th ***

dominationnation · Post by **dominationnation** » Fri May 11, 2007 3:44 pm

hmm no death
Nothing really to go on then
The cola bandwagon is quite stupid and based on the scarde ravings of a mad man.
So far no one seems suspecious

Aimless · Post by **Aimless** » Fri May 11, 2007 3:52 pm

dominationnation wrote:So far no one seems suspecious

You display an insufficient level of paranoia. Possibly a scum sign.

Colaalone · Post by **Colaalone** » Fri May 11, 2007 3:53 pm

dominationnation wrote:The cola bandwagon is quite stupid.

QFT

My vote for twiggy yesterday was based purely of that suspicious vote on the Mandywagon. Everyone else bandwagoned twig, don't blame me. Then Mandy comes out with that semi-plausible scenario about THE CHART. I found the flaw in his plan that affected me:
If Willis happened to be scum out of pure luck, I would be the next to go (being the most experienced player of the "white" players) and that would only hurt the town.

Aimless · Post by **Aimless** » Fri May 11, 2007 4:01 pm

Colaalone wrote:Everyone else bandwagoned twig, don't blame me. Then Mandy comes out with that semi-plausible scenario about THE CHART. I found the flaw in his plan that affected me:
If Willis happened to be scum out of pure luck, I would be the next to go (being the most experienced player of the "white" players) and that would only hurt the town.

But you never unvoted twig, even though it was readily apparent that he was just a n00b townie. (Not that I'm excusing anyone else of the bandwagon brigade; you're just first on my list.)

Plus, why would the chance that willis might turn out to be scum and thus implicate you be a reason to vote twig? That case should have been made yesterday (well, a caveat - I didn't make my accusation specific until today); the argument is at best a null-tell against willis and an argument against linking the two of you. If you thought there was a real chance willis was scum, you would have gone after him.

Colaalone · Post by **Colaalone** » Fri May 11, 2007 4:11 pm

Aimless wrote:Plus, why would the chance that willis might turn out to be scum and thus implicate you be a reason to vote twig?

It wasn't. I was just advising those thinking the chart held valuable information (Mandy and the impressionable noobs that would follow him) that if they wanted to prove that theory, lynching willis over twig was a bad play. My vote never had anything to do with the chart.

Aimless wrote: If you thought there was a real chance willis was scum, you would have gone after him.

There is a real chance of ANYONE being scum on day two. Just because you can't find a good lead on someone, doesn't mean they aren't scum.