Sherwood Forest Mafia - Game Over, Town Wins!

LSU Tiger Josh · Post by **LSU Tiger Josh** » Sat May 12, 2007 6:51 pm

Unless Selin you are referring to only the late maiden.

got tonkaed · Post by **got tonkaed** » Sat May 12, 2007 7:23 pm

I think if we are going to get something out of selin it should be done relatively soon since clearly we are going to have to lynch him soon if hes role reverts like mandos apparently did.

I think there are other potential options (though fairly undeveloped) but i wouldnt really be that opposed to lynching selin at the end of the day after hes given out whatever information it is that he can give. Of course this would be postponned if he can disclose how long hes going to be a good guy (if thats how it works) which may be no certainity that he can do.

Other people that id like to hear some things from

AK, Anark, Moz, and LSU

AK_iceman · Post by **AK_iceman** » Sat May 12, 2007 8:09 pm

Aegnor wrote:Hmm, I can't be arsed to look for the quote (that's Selin's job in this case), but he did say something about having an immunity to night kills.

You know who has immunity to night kills? The mafia.

XenHu · Post by **XenHu** » Sat May 12, 2007 8:15 pm

Selin wrote:
XenHu wrote:
Aegnor wrote:
pancakemix wrote:
Selin has also claimed Alan a Dale, who is one of the merry men in the legend. I think that this may also apply to Selin. Therefore, if this theory is correct, we should lynch Selin day 4. Get all the help from him we can while he's town, then dispose of him. Thoughts?
Hmm interesting theory there pancake,
reconsidering Selin's words:
Selin wrote: as mafia also like poets
i can use my power role
you may lynch me the first day
that only harm the town sole
"Mafia also likes poets" might fit into your idea.
Ok, so he claimed Alan-A-Dale and we are pretty sure his role changes on Day 3. But, if he's such a help to the town, how come he's survived Day 1? If I were mafia, I would've taken him out right away.

-X
hmm, looks like one more skimming one
typical scum behaviour
one more FOS on my list coming
but he's not yet to favour

FOS: XenHu

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XenHu wrote:
pancakemix wrote:Maybe the mafia figured out that he would change after Day 3 too.
Most likely. The question is: Would it be worth it?

Would whatever help Selin gives us be compensated by what he could give the maifa?

-X

I GOT SERVED · Post by **I GOT SERVED** » Sat May 12, 2007 9:21 pm

If I were mafia, I wouldn't kill selin. Reason being, there was (and still is) much speculation of him. By the mafia not killing selin, we worry about selin. Hence, nobody worrying about other mafia members.

got tonkaed · Post by **got tonkaed** » Sat May 12, 2007 9:34 pm

I think the better suggested reasons for selin not being killed is that he is apparenty bullet (arrow) proof and he might convert to mafia later on in the game so why reduce your numbers?

At leats thats what id think would be the arguments as a mafia to keep him alive. That and selin hasnt actually said much to make the mafia worried.

Aimless · Post by **Aimless** » Sat May 12, 2007 10:49 pm

Vote Count
Aegnor - 1 (The1exile)
The1exile - 1 (Selin)
Selin - 2 (XenHu, autoload)
hecter - 1 (moz)
I GOT SERVED - 1 (Incandenza)

Not Voting - 16

With 22 alive, it takes 12 to lynch!

autoload · Post by **autoload** » Sat May 12, 2007 10:52 pm

This makes some sense.

pancakemix wrote:Selin has also claimed Alan a Dale, who is one of the merry men in the legend. I think that this may also apply to Selin. Therefore, if this theory is correct, we should lynch Selin day 4. Get all the help from him we can while he's town, then dispose of him. Thoughts?

Unvote: Selin
I'm willing to give him an extra day or two.

got tonkaed wrote:I think the better suggested reasons for selin not being killed is that he is apparenty bullet (arrow) proof and he might convert to mafia later on in the game so why reduce your numbers?

At leats thats what id think would be the arguments as a mafia to keep him alive. That and selin hasnt actually said much to make the mafia worried.

Good posting.

Incandenza · Post by **Incandenza** » Sun May 13, 2007 2:56 am

As has been said, but worth repeating: there's no way a halfway competent mafia would nightkill selin.

If I understand things, then the prevailing theory is that the mafia would conceptually have received an infusion of talent after the archery contest (selin and mandy), and were it not for mandy, we wouldn't even be aware of this possibility. The question is, are there more people that might possibly switch from town to mafia?

The obvious thing to me is that whoever wins the archery contest has to be lynched immediately, as that person is likely to be robin.

We should keep selin around for another day at least. I also think that if selin has powers, he might want to reveal them now. I'm not demanding this, just putting it out on the table. If he has some skills that we can use to ferret out bad guys, then there's no reason to lynch him yet.

I'm glad to see that IGS posted, and t'was a sensible post, so

UNVOTE
VOTE dwight

Same principle.

spinwizard · Post by **spinwizard** » Sun May 13, 2007 4:26 am

i agree with a selin role claim

Aegnor · Post by **Aegnor** » Sun May 13, 2007 6:08 am

Selin if the only way for you to go down is by lynch, why not share your role with us then?

Guilty_Biscuit · Post by **Guilty_Biscuit** » Sun May 13, 2007 6:31 am

Aegnor wrote:Selin if the only way for you to go down is by lynch, why not share your role with us then?

That is a damn good point!

The1exile · Post by **The1exile** » Sun May 13, 2007 7:11 am

Incandenza wrote:The obvious thing to me is that whoever wins the archery contest has to be lynched immediately, as that person is likely to be robin.

I thought there was one other person who might win, who isn't ropbin. Not sure though, but you may want to check that there is no other way that the mafia use it to their advantage.

Just going off memory here, but wasn't wicked, the mafia, shot with a crossbow?

Guilty_Biscuit · Post by **Guilty_Biscuit** » Sun May 13, 2007 8:01 am

The1exile wrote:
Incandenza wrote:The obvious thing to me is that whoever wins the archery contest has to be lynched immediately, as that person is likely to be robin.
I thought there was one other person who might win, who isn't ropbin. Not sure though, but you may want to check that there is no other way that the mafia use it to their advantage.

Just going off memory here, but wasn't wicked, the mafia, shot with a crossbow?

Historically, the crossbow became popular in Europe because it required far less skill to use. You could train up a crossbowman in weeks compared to years for a longbowman. I think that this is by the by though considering we are playing mafia and not trying to recreate anything with historical accuracy.

spinwizard · Post by **spinwizard** » Sun May 13, 2007 8:27 am

guy of gisborn likes useing the cross bow...he is historicly a sidekick but may have a twist in this game...

XenHu · Post by **XenHu** » Sun May 13, 2007 8:39 am

Incandenza wrote:As has been said, but worth repeating: there's no way a halfway competent mafia would nightkill selin.

If I understand things, then the prevailing theory is that the mafia would conceptually have received an infusion of talent after the archery contest (selin and mandy), and were it not for mandy, we wouldn't even be aware of this possibility. The question is, are there more people that might possibly switch from town to mafia?

The obvious thing to me is that whoever wins the archery contest has to be lynched immediately, as that person is likely to be robin.

We should keep selin around for another day at least. I also think that if selin has powers, he might want to reveal them now. I'm not demanding this, just putting it out on the table. If he has some skills that we can use to ferret out bad guys, then there's no reason to lynch him yet.

I'm glad to see that IGS posted, and t'was a sensible post, so

UNVOTE
VOTE dwight

Same principle.

Good question and good point. But now I wonder if when Selin becomes mafia, will he keep his power? I know it sounds like a dumb question but here's why I'm asking. The way he goes about saying it, it sounds like Selin's power can be of good use to the town. My original point and question was that if this power is so helpful, why would the mafia let us have it? It just doesn't sit with me. That's all.

-X

autoload · Post by **autoload** » Sun May 13, 2007 9:30 am

Incandenza wrote:The obvious thing to me is that whoever wins the archery contest has to be lynched immediately, as that person is likely to be robin.

So, on the one hand people were saying not to Lynch Selin because Aimless says this game does not exactly follow the story. So why not say that here as well? Using the same reasoning we can correctly deduce that perhaps the person who wins the Archery Contest is not automatically Robin Hood.

spinwizard · Post by **spinwizard** » Sun May 13, 2007 9:33 am

i am guessing that the person that wins the archery contest is probebly robin hood but it is not garantied. I assume that u all got little archery skill numbers in your pm's so from this i think that it will be done by a random number/ percentage system to work out who wins.

do u all agree?

for dummies · Post by **for dummies** » Sun May 13, 2007 10:11 am

In the old ballads the archery contest is a trap to catch robin hood. In every version he wins while in disguise. In some versions no one figuers out who he is and he gets away. In some versions he is recognized and has to fight his way out.

I am pretty sure that the winner of the contest will be robin. Also i know the aimless isn't being completly true to the stories, but could robin be a godfather? In many of the stories he tricks the sheriff and prince john by using various disguises. It makes some sense don't you agree?

Aegnor · Post by **Aegnor** » Sun May 13, 2007 10:28 am

Auto brought up an interesting point. Why do we have archery skills (at least those who have one) if they mean nothing? We must not assume that the winner is automatically little red riding hood.

for dummies · Post by **for dummies** » Sun May 13, 2007 10:29 am

we can't automativcally assume that but it is a very goood possiblitiy is it not?

Aegnor · Post by **Aegnor** » Sun May 13, 2007 10:33 am

for dummies wrote:we can't automativcally assume that but it is a very goood possiblitiy is it not?

Yes, I suppose the hood would probably have the best archery skills, but then again, we don't know yet how the archery contest is going to work, we will have to wait for the Day 3 with that speculation.

The1exile · Post by **The1exile** » Sun May 13, 2007 10:45 am

Aegnor wrote:Yes, I suppose the hood would probably have the best archery skills, but then again, we don't know yet how the archery contest is going to work, we will have to wait for the Day 3 with that speculation.

Then again, given this is a risk website, we all know how bad your luck can be

I GOT SERVED · Post by **I GOT SERVED** » Sun May 13, 2007 11:18 am

XenHu wrote: Good question and good point. But now I wonder if when Selin becomes mafia, will he keep his power? I know it sounds like a dumb question but here's why I'm asking. The way he goes about saying it, it sounds like Selin's power can be of good use to the town. My original point and question was that if this power is so helpful, why would the mafia let us have it? It just doesn't sit with me. That's all.

-X

Well, if the speculation is correct that selin is a bullet-proof townie, then there isn't much the mafia can do aboot it. And I would presume that selin would keep his role, which would make a townie win much harder.

The idea of lynching selin on day 4 sounds good to me.

pancakemix · Post by **pancakemix** » Sun May 13, 2007 11:20 am

So are we all agreed to lynch Selin Day 4? If that's a yes, who to lynch today?