Totals1 Field Marshal +10844 4952 from 9323(53%) 2264 (146) Serial Killer (65%)5117 Equalitarian (0.825)
Kraphts all-time speed freestyle totals..
I mean.. really?
its amazing how many people dont understand what this type of information means.
Really all that is saying to you is he is better at speed freestyle than the other settings he plays...ie he loses points in his other games but gains points there. If ones score stays low it is easy to manipulate that number as you win lots of points in the game you are even decent in and lost lots of points in the games you suck at. How do you think people have ridiculously high scores on a map like doodle or lux?
krapht is a great fs player but that number means close to nothing
first of all, to speak down to me is ludicrous... I know exactly what these stats mean which is the reason for posting them... read your first sentence... this is a speed freestyle thread, and you shoot down my argument with a paragraph that starts out with "really all that is saying to you is he is better at speed freestyle than the other settings he plays"... well.. holy shit ljex! my reasoning is the nail, and your comment is the hammer that drives my point home... and there seems to be a hint of "hate" in your post... that's not like you.. surprised me a bit..
Totals1 Field Marshal +10844 4952 from 9323(53%) 2264 (146) Serial Killer (65%)5117 Equalitarian (0.825)
Kraphts all-time speed freestyle totals..
I mean.. really?
its amazing how many people dont understand what this type of information means.
Really all that is saying to you is he is better at speed freestyle than the other settings he plays...ie he loses points in his other games but gains points there. If ones score stays low it is easy to manipulate that number as you win lots of points in the game you are even decent in and lost lots of points in the games you suck at. How do you think people have ridiculously high scores on a map like doodle or lux?
krapht is a great fs player but that number means close to nothing
first of all, to speak down to me is ludicrous... I know exactly what these stats mean which is the reason for posting them... read your first sentence... this is a speed freestyle thread, and you shoot down my argument with a paragraph that starts out with "really all that is saying to you is he is better at speed freestyle than the other settings he plays"... well.. holy shit ljex! my reasoning is the nail, and your comment is the hammer that drives my point home... and there seems to be a hint of "hate" in your post... that's not like you.. surprised me a bit..
no hate in my post...sheer annoyance for the number of people that make the same exact mistake you are making now.
He is better at speed freestyle than the other settings he plays in no way shape or form proves that he is a good speed freestyle player. Now i am sure you will come back with some bullshit again about how he is a good freestyle player but understand the information you are providing does not prove that.
There is a big difference between being good at a setting and being positive points on that setting. The fact that this seems to be something people dont see and then beyond that cant grasp when it is point out is troubling. And yes make posts about how I am belittling you if you want...but that doesn't mean my point is not true.
If a halfway decent player wanted to they could be + points on any setting...the formula is simple. If you want to gain points at setting a play two types of games those of setting a and those of setting b. Lose most of your games of setting b (which you are not good at or is luck based) and then win a higher percentage of your games at setting a. Setting be will deflate your score making you have positive points on setting a. Thus high points proves nothing about how much skill a player has at a setting but only that they are better at that setting than they are at the others they play. This does not mean they are also better at that setting then other players who play the setting they have high positive points on.
Again Krapht is good at freestyle but your logic and reasoning behind making that statement is flawed.
Totals1 Field Marshal +10844 4952 from 9323(53%) 2264 (146) Serial Killer (65%)5117 Equalitarian (0.825)
Kraphts all-time speed freestyle totals..
I mean.. really?
its amazing how many people dont understand what this type of information means.
Really all that is saying to you is he is better at speed freestyle than the other settings he plays...ie he loses points in his other games but gains points there. If ones score stays low it is easy to manipulate that number as you win lots of points in the game you are even decent in and lost lots of points in the games you suck at. How do you think people have ridiculously high scores on a map like doodle or lux?
krapht is a great fs player but that number means close to nothing
first of all, to speak down to me is ludicrous... I know exactly what these stats mean which is the reason for posting them... read your first sentence... this is a speed freestyle thread, and you shoot down my argument with a paragraph that starts out with "really all that is saying to you is he is better at speed freestyle than the other settings he plays"... well.. holy shit ljex! my reasoning is the nail, and your comment is the hammer that drives my point home... and there seems to be a hint of "hate" in your post... that's not like you.. surprised me a bit..
no hate in my post...sheer annoyance for the number of people that make the same exact mistake you are making now.
He is better at speed freestyle than the other settings he plays in no way shape or form proves that he is a good speed freestyle player. Now i am sure you will come back with some bullshit again about how he is a good freestyle player but understand the information you are providing does not prove that.
There is a big difference between being good at a setting and being positive points on that setting. The fact that this seems to be something people dont see and then beyond that cant grasp when it is point out is troubling. And yes make posts about how I am belittling you if you want...but that doesn't mean my point is not true.
If a halfway decent player wanted to they could be + points on any setting...the formula is simple. If you want to gain points at setting a play two types of games those of setting a and those of setting b. Lose most of your games of setting b (which you are not good at or is luck based) and then win a higher percentage of your games at setting a. Setting be will deflate your score making you have positive points on setting a. Thus high points proves nothing about how much skill a player has at a setting but only that they are better at that setting than they are at the others they play. This does not mean they are also better at that setting then other players who play the setting they have high positive points on.
Again Krapht is good at freestyle but your logic and reasoning behind making that statement is flawed.
First, I did not post the map rank to "prove" that he is the best freestyle player ljex... It was simply one branch of evidence on a very large tree... your assertion that I was "proving" my point with that info is what appears to flawed... what you post as far as the formula is 100% correct, in fact... there are, however, several issues that you fail to take into account.. first, Krapht obviously never manipulated his gameplay to take advantage of the formula you present here to "inflate" his statistics... I would advance that he couldn't care less what his stats are, or how he could improve them... second (and I state this rhetorically), how many top freestyle players would have poor statistics if I were to map rank them as I did Krapht? none I would venture to say? and lastly, and this is no "proof" of my assertion (that Krapht is one of the best fs players) either, but I have played Krapht, you, and many other freestyle players (both past and present) many, many times... and I can say that Krapht is a top freestyle player simply by using my eyes... of course this is not "scientific" by any stretch of the imagination, but then again, this thread is opinion based to say the least... my point was simply that his statistics when map ranked are extremely impressive... regardless of the ability to inflate/manipulate them, which you so eloquently pointed out....
Totals1 Field Marshal +10844 4952 from 9323(53%) 2264 (146) Serial Killer (65%)5117 Equalitarian (0.825)
Kraphts all-time speed freestyle totals..
I mean.. really?
its amazing how many people dont understand what this type of information means.
Really all that is saying to you is he is better at speed freestyle than the other settings he plays...ie he loses points in his other games but gains points there. If ones score stays low it is easy to manipulate that number as you win lots of points in the game you are even decent in and lost lots of points in the games you suck at. How do you think people have ridiculously high scores on a map like doodle or lux?
krapht is a great fs player but that number means close to nothing
TLDR:
-krapht is usually aroumd major
-krapht therefore loses ~20 points per loss to other majors
-krapht gains 120 points in a game full of majors
-If krapht played only these and became brig or general or field marshal, he would lose 40+ points to majors, therefore he'd have to win way more often
-your number means jack
I would love for you to find the category in which I'm -8000
I'm guessing it doesn't exist...
I've always been proudest that over the million games I've played and all the medals and what not I have always maintained the "equalitarion" monicker...
Winning record playing good players... I'll take it...
NoSurvivors wrote:
Totals1 Field Marshal +10844 4952 from 9323(53%) 2264 (146) Serial Killer (65%)5117 Equalitarian (0.825)
-your number means jack
It means I've amassed 11000 freestyle points playing people of the same relative rank... And I win more than I lose... And in multiplayer games I'm responsible for 65% of the kills... I'll take it...
NoSurvivors wrote:
Totals1 Field Marshal +10844 4952 from 9323(53%) 2264 (146) Serial Killer (65%)5117 Equalitarian (0.825)
-your number means jack
It means I've amassed 11000 freestyle points playing people of the same relative rank... And I win more than I lose... And in multiplayer games I'm responsible for 65% of the kills... I'll take it...
But even if you won more than you'd lost at 65% at general, you would lose rank in no time.. you would not get to feild marshal playing solely those, which is what (I believe) rhp was implying
You are correct, I would have to play feudal or mogul exclusively to increase the win loss and points ratio...
I have however reached general on more than one occasion playing 6-8 player freestyle doodles... Not an easy task, only seen 3 or 4 others do it... (kog prank and bridge come to mind)... So that's good company...
Of course if I really want to rape the scoreboard I would stick to triples freestyle feudal... I'll let rhp map rank that one... As I no longer have the ability...
Wait can we say rape? That DF c&a made my month...
KraphtOne wrote:You are correct, I would have to play feudal or mogul exclusively to increase the win loss and points ratio...
I have however reached general on more than one occasion playing 6-8 player freestyle doodles... Not an easy task, only seen 3 or 4 others do it... (kog prank and bridge come to mind)... So that's good company...
Of course if I really want to rape the scoreboard I would stick to triples freestyle feudal... I'll let rhp map rank that one... As I no longer have the ability...
Wait can we say rape? That DF c&a made my month...
I know you're def one of the best FSers out there (as I have put you as 2nd or 3rd I believe on my own list) that's not what I am saying at all
NoSurvivors wrote:
Totals1 Field Marshal +10844 4952 from 9323(53%) 2264 (146) Serial Killer (65%)5117 Equalitarian (0.825)
-your number means jack
It means I've amassed 11000 freestyle points playing people of the same relative rank... And I win more than I lose... And in multiplayer games I'm responsible for 65% of the kills... I'll take it...
But even if you won more than you'd lost at 65% at general, you would lose rank in no time.. you would not get to feild marshal playing solely those, which is what (I believe) rhp was implying
actually, no.. I posted K-One's stats as one piece of evidence in support of me saying he's one of the best... tbh, just my opinion is good enough...
NoSurvivors wrote:
Totals1 Field Marshal +10844 4952 from 9323(53%) 2264 (146) Serial Killer (65%)5117 Equalitarian (0.825)
-your number means jack
It means I've amassed 11000 freestyle points playing people of the same relative rank... And I win more than I lose... And in multiplayer games I'm responsible for 65% of the kills... I'll take it...
But even if you won more than you'd lost at 65% at general, you would lose rank in no time.. you would not get to feild marshal playing solely those, which is what (I believe) rhp was implying
actually, no.. I posted K-One's stats as one piece of evidence in support of me saying he's one of the best... tbh, just my opinion is good enough...
I'm surprised your ego let you say anyone was better than you
Bruceswar wrote:Strangely... my stats look really close to Krapts.....
Totals68 Field Marshal +10701 1228 from 3195(38%) 2084 (45) Serial Killer (65%)2268 Equalitarian (0.826)
The difference I see is that he played more 1 vs games while I played more multi player games. I wonder how the rest of you stack up..
Mine don't stack up at all as far as point differential.... I have neither the games played 1v 1 that Krapht has nor the the mutiplayer games played that you have bruce.. I would like to think if I did have the volume, my stats would be similair... who knows...
*SPEED FREESTYLE TOTALS*Totals Field Marshal +5121 2470 from 4401(56%) 1125 (12) Serial Killer (62%) 2635 Equalitarian (0.853)
These are only speed fs stats... I don't consider casual fs stats to be relevant or noteworthy.... Krapht's stats were only speed fs as well... not sure if urs were or not bruce
NoSurvivors wrote:
Totals1 Field Marshal +10844 4952 from 9323(53%) 2264 (146) Serial Killer (65%)5117 Equalitarian (0.825)
-your number means jack
It means I've amassed 11000 freestyle points playing people of the same relative rank... And I win more than I lose... And in multiplayer games I'm responsible for 65% of the kills... I'll take it...
But even if you won more than you'd lost at 65% at general, you would lose rank in no time.. you would not get to feild marshal playing solely those, which is what (I believe) rhp was implying
actually, no.. I posted K-One's stats as one piece of evidence in support of me saying he's one of the best... tbh, just my opinion is good enough...
I'm surprised your ego let you say anyone was better than you
Haha... good one NoS... fact is, its not possible to ascertain who the best fs player is, or was for that matter... too many maps, settings, # of players, and other variables... I'm sure there are many who are and were better than me... I simply stated there is no fs player I've played with or against that I don't think (or know) I can beat... that certainly doesn't mean I'm overall a better player or even a better fs player... it just means that I have the ability to beat them a fair % of the time... not the occasional random dice victory, but in fair, legit games...the same way they have the ability to beat me... in other words, to me, this is just a fun thread to talk shit in... it doesn't, and nvr can, tell you who is the best... past or present
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I know you're def one of the best FSers out there (as I have put you as 2nd or 3rd I believe on my own list) that's not what I am saying at all