betiko wrote:sasha djordevic, mythical! how long ago was that though lol? I have to say I don't follow much european basketball since that generation.
Oh and partizan fans (grobari and all) are mentally ill people, they need to go to mental institutions. You saw Danny Dyer's show about european hooligans? Out of all the countries he visited and all, partizan were by far the scariest. Really sick people. I hope red star (+occasionally hadjuk split & dinamo Zagreb if they meet in european competitions) beats the crap out of them for life (and I'm an olypimque de marseille fan, we lost on penaltys vs red star in 91 a champions league finals which was totally bullcrap)
Not to mention that when Toulouse went to Belgrade to play partizan they killed one of their supporters just for fun.
lol, better watch your tongue !
dinustef, finsfleet and myself are all huge Partizan fans! we are not hard core idiots who need to be hospitalized, but we still support our team to the maximum. often we lose our voice during games

and no, we dont get beat up by Cigani(Red Star fans, translated Gypsies... and its the only group that didnt gave name to themselves, but were called like that from Grobari... they now calling themselves Delije, but thats only among themselves, we all are still calling them Gypsies), Torcida(Hajduk fans, untranslatable) or Bad Blue Boys(Dinamo fans), but other thing actually... during 80's when hooliganism started in these countries Grobari(or Gravediggers, if you translate it) were by far the strongest and worst group. they were led by two complete maniacs, Zare, who was real leader, and Papmi, his right hand, and meanest mother fucker that ever lived. even other Grobari have feared of Pampi. the guy wasnt hooligan, he was sadistic maniac. he was known to go to North part of stadium(where Cigani were) during game and start abusing them. it was active for 3 or 4 years until one of their leaders stood up against him. Pampi beat the shit out of him, but at least others helped and after it he didnt go there anymore(can you imagine someone going up against 2-3000 hooligans and start beating them? can you imagine how crazy is that?

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Zare on other hand was different kind of animal. to my knowledge, he only made one huge excess. on a game played in Split, Torcida attacked Grobari with needles used by junkies. as a revenge, when they played in Belgrade, Pampi called Parangal(who was Torcida leader) to peaceful meeting. meeting was everything but peaceful. they took them all, separate Parangal from others, and Zare fucked him there while other watched. i mean, literally f*ck him.
so yeah, we are kind of craziest motherfuckers in exYU. Torcida is close second. Red Star and Dinamo were bunch of pussies back in the days. crazy group was The Maniacs, fans of Zeljeznicar Sarajevo(mostly Serbs cheered for them... muslims cheered for Sarajevo and were called Horde Zla(Evil Horde))... but those are all early to late '80s. today, every fucking kid is caring the gun, so its different kind of shit now... as you said, they killed poor Brice Taton for no reason what so ever
Armandolas wrote:Grobari or anyone who helds a karadzic poster/banner clearly have some serious mental problem.
Sorry to get some politics here and sorry for good partizan supporters, but grobari and karadzic alikes are a shame to the human race
strong politics and nacionalism are known to be symbol of every hooligans, not just Grobari... normal fans like me dont care about that shit, so you cant say Grobari are shame to human race because of 5-6 individuals...