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Re: Waterdale Mafia Day 2 Reign Begins

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sorry James, you're correct it was Fir responding to IB below, speaking about the short night phase and why it is important, matching to james' play style, nark posted right before and i got mixed up, i take back the OMGUS accusation against james for casting his vote against nark, i was speaking strictly about D2 in my previous post, that's twice already today i've gotten it wrong
Fircoal wrote:Um it is important. There is a reason why we speculate. Because think about who would be most likely to send in a kill after limited or no collaboration when they could have used that time to come to a better consensus. The already tells us something about our killers. For example, let's look at JamesKer. He is the type of person who would quickly go after something and not look back until later. A quick night would be something that you would expect from him. There are people who put in their actions right away, and there are people who tend to wait fiveever to do it even if they could earlier. (Even when active I tend to be someone who has a problem putting in their action on time)

Not to add it gets us a better idea of what we have in the town. Yes I forgot there were confirmed two mafia members but what if there were not? It'd be better for us to kick around the possibility. I find it funny how you are the one to remember that for sure there are 2 mafia, while both me and Kgb forget. Maybe there is a reason for that. ;3
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No offense taken man, just a game, sorry if I came across that way.

Seems that I still can't get the formatting right, don't know what I've done to it :oops: Kudos to all who understand it ;)
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Alright, sorry for not posting sooner everyone, Wednesdays are my day from hell. As far as scum goes, I find it strange that two people forgot there were two scum in this game. Given though that I know not everyone reads the scenes and some dont read diligently, I wont use that as a point. Speculating on the combination of mafia, I believe it to be an experienced player and a noob. My reasoning behind this is because the experienced player would bring up someone to kill, the noob agrees immediately as they believe the vet has better judgment, and the action is sent in immediately. A noob and a noob (unless they agreed on the same target) would have speculations on who to kill and would voice their opinions, while two vets (unless they agreed on a target) would both give their input and want to sit on the thought of both targets. As far as who the mafia is, I have no clue o.o
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Honestly, I would almost think Fir and IB were in this together, because they are GREAT at distancing themselves from one another, but I think they are both very serious in their arguments... However, I can't really say that I think either one of them are scum, either...

You two should quit arguing and target someone else TOGETHER.... Like... Bad cop/bad cop
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Anarkistsdream wrote:Honestly, I would almost think Fir and IB were in this together, because they are GREAT at distancing themselves from one another, but I think they are both very serious in their arguments... However, I can't really say that I think either one of them are scum, either...

You two should quit arguing and target someone else TOGETHER.... Like... Bad cop/bad cop
If there is a case someone else finds that I agree with, I'd go along with it, and if IB goes along with it too then you can get your wish. :P But from where I stand I personally find IB the scummiest. Besides I don't really see that many strong cases out there.
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Anarkistsdream wrote:Honestly, I would almost think Fir and IB were in this together, because they are GREAT at distancing themselves from one another, but I think they are both very serious in their arguments... However, I can't really say that I think either one of them are scum, either...

You two should quit arguing and target someone else TOGETHER.... Like... Bad cop/bad cop
Why would you put that on us while you can do it equally as well?

I stopped arguing a while back as I believe I made my point. I did not expect the WIFOM to devolve into walls of text.
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Iron Butterfly wrote:
Anarkistsdream wrote:Honestly, I would almost think Fir and IB were in this together, because they are GREAT at distancing themselves from one another, but I think they are both very serious in their arguments... However, I can't really say that I think either one of them are scum, either...

You two should quit arguing and target someone else TOGETHER.... Like... Bad cop/bad cop
Why would you put that on us while you can do it equally as well?

I stopped arguing a while back as I believe I made my point. I did not expect the WIFOM to devolve into walls of text.

Indeed, WALLS of frigging text... Which, by the way, I skimmed some of... HAH!

And I don't know if I consider my deductive skills as high as the two of you, but I'll give it a go...

James, you are grasping at straws, especially with your little "Look at Speisr's post" comment...
Is it just me, or does this wording imply that someone who has claimed isn't telling us the truth, but they SEEM to belong? So KGB or Nark? Maybe not, thought I would bring this up to see if it was valid at all.
It's definitely just you...
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Anarkistsdream wrote:
Iron Butterfly wrote:
Anarkistsdream wrote:Honestly, I would almost think Fir and IB were in this together, because they are GREAT at distancing themselves from one another, but I think they are both very serious in their arguments... However, I can't really say that I think either one of them are scum, either...

You two should quit arguing and target someone else TOGETHER.... Like... Bad cop/bad cop
Why would you put that on us while you can do it equally as well?

I stopped arguing a while back as I believe I made my point. I did not expect the WIFOM to devolve into walls of text.

Indeed, WALLS of frigging text... Which, by the way, I skimmed some of... HAH!

And I don't know if I consider my deductive skills as high as the two of you, but I'll give it a go...

James, you are grasping at straws, especially with your little "Look at Speisr's post" comment...
Is it just me, or does this wording imply that someone who has claimed isn't telling us the truth, but they SEEM to belong? So KGB or Nark? Maybe not, thought I would bring this up to see if it was valid at all.
It's definitely just you...
I honestly don't trust what you're saying right here. First off you shouldn't skim those walls of text. I put a lot of work into building that wall! I expect it to be admired and praised for it's wonderfulness. Regardless it's probably important to have a good idea of what is being said by the other members of the town. Second off all while I thank you for the praise it doesn't seem very like you to set back and let others do the work. Usually you're aggressively pursuing what your targets. Why aren't you doing that right now?
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Work is kicking my ass right now... The Little Rock Museum Consortium is putting on our Halloween event tonight... Give me tomorrow to recover, and certainly, this weekend you all will be inundated.
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Anarkistsdream wrote:Work is kicking my ass right now... The Little Rock Museum Consortium is putting on our Halloween event tonight... Give me tomorrow to recover, and certainly, this weekend you all will be inundated.
Fair enough. Schoolwork is killing me too. But somehow that has maximized the amount of time I put into here....
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We'll thanks for the reply about that nark, even though I don't know how valid the reply is since it might stack up as evidence against you... It stuck out to me for some reason the first two times I read it, not so much now.

Please tell me we aren't skimming... I've read every post a day old at least ten times by now, a little less for the newer ones... And school is kicking my butt too.
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since it doesn't look like anyone has any useful information from N1, i'd like to hear more from nark, you were the first to respond in D2 and said you had strong suspicions...care to elaborate?
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I, too, am waiting on that theory. That's the one part of my ramble that hasn't yet been answered.
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The Weird One wrote:I, too, am waiting on that theory. That's the one part of my ramble that hasn't yet been answered.

Yes, yes, yes... Like I said... Let me get through with work today, and I'll bust it out for you all tomorrow... PROMISE! O:)
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If there was a deadline, I would take that as stalling, but since there isn't I'll buy it... :roll:
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JamesKer1 wrote:If there was a deadline, I would take that as stalling, but since there isn't I'll buy it... :roll:
Honestly I want to let him do it. REally the game does not depend on the efforts of ONE person. if you want things to discuss bring them out yourself. He put a time on the table for when he can because he has school and stuff. Let's let him be. Life is busy and sucks.
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Doing this on my phone... sorry. Newguy and kgb both had the opportunity to hammer me and have ample justification, yet they did not, even though the repercussions would have been nearlu nonexistent, so I believe they are town. Iron Butterfly is so aggressive and nit picky, few mafia get away with that without overplaying their hand... he is town, if that is to be reasoned. James is still crazy, basically agreeing with far too many people without having TOO much new info to bring... That would most likely make him town. That leaves fir and TWO. They are old school and have been playing this for years. They are argumentative and pushy, but never truly accusatory. They nitpick other arguments and play devils advocate but never really try to start a push in any given direction. They have also had no contact through posts in this game... have they ever said anything to one another? They are also both on the site fairly often, especially around the time of night. I firmly believe at least one, if not both, is mafia... Vote: TWO
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Vote Count:
Anarkistsdream (1): JamesKer1
The Weird One (1): Anarkistsdream

4 Votes required for a lynch.

Things seem to be slowing down so I will set a deadline to keep you guys on your toes.

Deadline: November 2 10:00 MDT

Edit: new guy1 has been prodded.
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Anarkistsdream wrote:Doing this on my phone... sorry. Newguy and kgb both had the opportunity to hammer me and have ample justification, yet they did not, even though the repercussions would have been nearlu nonexistent, so I believe they are town. Iron Butterfly is so aggressive and nit picky, few mafia get away with that without overplaying their hand... he is town, if that is to be reasoned. James is still crazy, basically agreeing with far too many people without having TOO much new info to bring... That would most likely make him town. That leaves fir and TWO. They are old school and have been playing this for years. They are argumentative and pushy, but never truly accusatory. They nitpick other arguments and play devils advocate but never really try to start a push in any given direction. They have also had no contact through posts in this game... have they ever said anything to one another? They are also both on the site fairly often, especially around the time of night. I firmly believe at least one, if not both, is mafia... Vote: TWO
Bolded bit, first: I do believe that I was quite accusatory of you.

As far as fir and I not communicating: my long braindead ramble had at least one direct bit of talking to him. He later responds to this.
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The Weird One wrote: Fircoal, you say that it's surprising to have had such a short night or that it speaks of some high level of inactivity. . . You do realize that all players and the mod are from the states, right? There's not that much of a time gap, so it would make sense that it would be resolved quickly. Twenty hours is a bit quick, but with everyone clustered so tightly [regarding time zones], it's not that out of place. It almost seems that you're trying to shift the attention toward the actives when you yourself have been less active [I know you have been inactive due to real life, but that doesn't stop it from appearing that you're trying to slide attention far away from you]
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Fircoal wrote:Yes. something else to note is that communicating with each other over that time would be hard, so likely the two scummy scums were both on at the same time or one of them decided to send in the action themselves.
I didn't know that everyone was from the states. Maybe it's because I'm speaking from my own experience of delaying my own actions and not communicating with my teammates well. (I have serious communication issues) I really didn't expect it and I still think something can be thought about it.
And btw I'm not trying to shift attention away from myself because if you have noticed the end of yesterday and the beginning of today I have been quite active. I would expect to be considered active for that time even though I haven't been for the full time.


I was thinking perhaps Chu and IB were a bit scummy, what with dominating the thread with meaningless statements about everything being WIFOM. I'm still not fully trusting of you, but, after that long attack on each other, I'm feeling it's one of them. Walls of text can be quite beneficial to us, but walls of text that are essentially paragraph after paragraph of repeating something that doesn't help at all helps no one but scum. The both of them have played enough to know this, by now. In response to your attack on me: most of that is ungrounded. This makes me more and more suspicious of you...That being said, I can see three that are standing out, right now: yourself, Chu, and IB.
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The Weird One wrote:
Anarkistsdream wrote:Doing this on my phone... sorry. Newguy and kgb both had the opportunity to hammer me and have ample justification, yet they did not, even though the repercussions would have been nearlu nonexistent, so I believe they are town. Iron Butterfly is so aggressive and nit picky, few mafia get away with that without overplaying their hand... he is town, if that is to be reasoned. James is still crazy, basically agreeing with far too many people without having TOO much new info to bring... That would most likely make him town. That leaves fir and TWO. They are old school and have been playing this for years. They are argumentative and pushy, but never truly accusatory. They nitpick other arguments and play devils advocate but never really try to start a push in any given direction. They have also had no contact through posts in this game... have they ever said anything to one another? They are also both on the site fairly often, especially around the time of night. I firmly believe at least one, if not both, is mafia... Vote: TWO
Bolded bit, first: I do believe that I was quite accusatory of you.

As far as fir and I not communicating: my long braindead ramble had at least one direct bit of talking to him. He later responds to this.
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The Weird One wrote: Fircoal, you say that it's surprising to have had such a short night or that it speaks of some high level of inactivity. . . You do realize that all players and the mod are from the states, right? There's not that much of a time gap, so it would make sense that it would be resolved quickly. Twenty hours is a bit quick, but with everyone clustered so tightly [regarding time zones], it's not that out of place. It almost seems that you're trying to shift the attention toward the actives when you yourself have been less active [I know you have been inactive due to real life, but that doesn't stop it from appearing that you're trying to slide attention far away from you]
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Fircoal wrote:Yes. something else to note is that communicating with each other over that time would be hard, so likely the two scummy scums were both on at the same time or one of them decided to send in the action themselves.
I didn't know that everyone was from the states. Maybe it's because I'm speaking from my own experience of delaying my own actions and not communicating with my teammates well. (I have serious communication issues) I really didn't expect it and I still think something can be thought about it.
And btw I'm not trying to shift attention away from myself because if you have noticed the end of yesterday and the beginning of today I have been quite active. I would expect to be considered active for that time even though I haven't been for the full time.


I was thinking perhaps Chu and IB were a bit scummy, what with dominating the thread with meaningless statements about everything being WIFOM. I'm still not fully trusting of you, but, after that long attack on each other, I'm feeling it's one of them. Walls of text can be quite beneficial to us, but walls of text that are essentially paragraph after paragraph of repeating something that doesn't help at all helps no one but scum. The both of them have played enough to know this, by now. In response to your attack on me: most of that is ungrounded. This makes me more and more suspicious of you...That being said, I can see three that are standing out, right now: yourself, Chu, and IB.

Fair enough... I would be willing to vote one of the two of them, though I still think Fircoal is playing it more "cool" than IB... IB has been up in E'ERYBODIES bidnezz. I just don't see many successful scum do that.
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I am not scum. Rarely if ever do I ever mention I am Town if that is my role in a game as that is exactly what mafia would say anyways but man this game bugs me.

Tell me something Anarch... you made a good case on TWO insofar as why you believe what you do. I will admit that this has not been the best game that I have played. i found your argument both rational and compelling. I am however surprised that you vote TWO with such assurance only to seemingly say never mind the moment TWO responds.

You vote him as scum and then when he argues someone else may be scum for his defense you instantly agree to vote his suggestion. This after voting him and accusing him all game?

Really??
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Iron Butterfly wrote:I am not scum. Rarely if ever do I ever mention I am Town if that is my role in a game as that is exactly what mafia would say anyways but man this game bugs me.

Tell me something Anarch... you made a good case on TWO insofar as why you believe what you do. I will admit that this has not been the best game that I have played. i found your argument both rational and compelling. I am however surprised that you vote TWO with such assurance only to seemingly say never mind the moment TWO responds.

You vote him as scum and then when he argues someone else may be scum for his defense you instantly agree to vote his suggestion. This after voting him and accusing him all game?

Really??
But notice I did not take my vote off of him... I merely said I could agree with his theory, and, even then, said I still think YOU are town...

I am fairly certain of my opinion in this game, so note I am not voting you... It will be either Fir or TWO... Right now, it stays on TWO unless someone can convince me to switch it to the Pokémon...
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I really don't know what to say... I don't want you guys to think I'm scummarining, so posting this at least. Still worried about some others slipping off a lot though... Nark, I would take my vote off of you for posting so much- however, that is one of your main arguments throughout this day for someone being town, so my vote sticks. Seems like it is said a lot to get it stuck in our minds...
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JamesKer1 wrote:I really don't know what to say... I don't want you guys to think I'm scummarining, so posting this at least. Still worried about some others slipping off a lot though... Nark, I would take my vote off of you for posting so much- however, that is one of your main arguments throughout this day for someone being town, so my vote sticks. Seems like it is said a lot to get it stuck in our minds...
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Sorry I havent posted in awhile. I was going to make a post the other day, but decided I couldnt think of anything to say and gave up. I am concerned with getting anyone to L2, because while we would know who scum was with a speedlynch, I dont want to deal with the argument of "I didnt know". I said yesterday I thought IB is scummy, so I will Vote IB. Ill get reasons when I am not so tired. Can probably look at my last few posts and find them so I should have them by tomorrow.
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