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saxitoxin wrote:Serbia is a RUDE DUDE
may not be a PRUDE, but he's gotta 'TUDE
might not be LEWD, but he's gonna get BOOED
RUDE
I enjoyed that, thanks. He was a great manager, I feel. Hope they find an adequate replacement.thegreekdog wrote:He never managed my team, but I loved him.
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saxitoxin wrote:Serbia is a RUDE DUDE
may not be a PRUDE, but he's gotta 'TUDE
might not be LEWD, but he's gonna get BOOED
RUDE
It was the right call to make at 3rd base. It's always obstruction when the fielder impedes the runner. Heck, the Cardinals lost a game in the regular season due to an obstruction call as a runner. It sucked, but it was the right call.Army of GOD wrote:All I have to say is Jim Joyce has now blown a perfect game and a World Series game.
I don't know the letter of the law, and of course I'm extremely biased, but this is how I look at it: Firstly, Middlebrooks has as much right to get up and get to the ball as Craig had to run. I know intent doesn't matter but Middlebrooks has to be allowed to get up. Secondly, it's not like Craig was forced to go home which to me REALLY puts in question the obstruction. He could've stopped, even after he got tripped, but he kept going and got thrown out.Night Strike wrote:It was the right call to make at 3rd base. It's always obstruction when the fielder impedes the runner. Heck, the Cardinals lost a game in the regular season due to an obstruction call as a runner. It sucked, but it was the right call.Army of GOD wrote:All I have to say is Jim Joyce has now blown a perfect game and a World Series game.
It's not a judgment call, like a foul in basketball. This is exactly what the rule is. And what are you talking about Middlebrooks fielding the ball after it went by him? There was no way he was going to be the one to go field it.Army of GOD wrote:have to let the players play
I really disagree there. I thought the game was called pretty evenly. The strike zone was a little inconsistent at times and there were times when Joe Kelly, David Freese, Carlos Martinez, and Pete Kozma all disagreed with the ump that I can think of right off the top of my head.Army of GOD wrote:Oh and the fucking balls/strikes calls were ridiculous all game too in the Cards favor.
Besides the at bat where Freese should have struck out about 3 times, which was particularly egregious, the strike zone was pretty bad throughout the game.Army of GOD wrote:Oh and the fucking balls/strikes calls were ridiculous all game too in the Cards favor.
The letter of the law actually has almost that exact situation in verbatim as an example of when obstruction happens. Once the fielder misses the ball to him, he's no longer in a legal defensive position and can't be in the way of the runner. Middlebrooks was clearly in the way of the runner, even though there was nothing he could do to get out of the way.Army of GOD wrote:I don't know the letter of the law, and of course I'm extremely biased, but this is how I look at it: Firstly, Middlebrooks has as much right to get up and get to the ball as Craig had to run. I know intent doesn't matter but Middlebrooks has to be allowed to get up. Secondly, it's not like Craig was forced to go home which to me REALLY puts in question the obstruction. He could've stopped, even after he got tripped, but he kept going and got thrown out.
And even if it is the correct call, it's such an extremely nitpicky call considering the weight of the game.
To be completely honest, I had my eyes closed in real time because I thought he would score easily. That was such a horrible play by Salty to throw that ball to third, regardless of what would happen next. Ugh...
Swallowing the whistle on obvious fouls at the end of the game is ridiculous in every sport. It's not leaving it up to the players when those players are breaking the rules to finish the game. The players DID play in this situation: Pedroia made a great stop, Salty make a solid tag then a horrible throw, Middlebrooks failed to stop the ball then was in the way of the runner advancing, which is a violation of the rules. But if the umps can't make a call like that at the end of the game, I guess they should make sure to let the runners be hit by a batted ball since that's the players playing the game out. I guess the runners should be able to run into the arms of a fielder trying to get a ground ball since that's just the players playing it out.Army of GOD wrote:Not to mention you have to let the players play in that situation. Don't decide the game with a call. That's as bad as calling a ticky-tack foul on the last shot in the NBA.
Makes you wonder if the Red Sox had planned to pick off Wong knowing a rookie might get anxious off the bag. McCarver made the comment earlier how Napoli shouldn't of even been holding Wong and instead covering the field.Army of GOD wrote:haha wow. What an idiot.
I'd like to see at least one or two games with lively batsNight Strike wrote:They need to wake up.