Re: (GON 3rd game)Town wins. Day 5

[legionnare]

I see you are browsing the forum Tuffy, anything to say?

[TuffyLess]

Tuffy - absolutely no read on him, other than his tiff (look it up) with Kill at the start of Day 2 little input

Quiet, really?
I have many lengthy observations posted on this day alone.
And didnt I come out before you had asked and again when you did ask as to why i didnt vote r1?
Remember ... I went with archers line of thought.

Sure Tuffy, I'm the defensive one.

I did say you're defensive because my pointing out your vote count was what set you off.

Which is now described as this:

Kill - Had a tiff (look it up) with Tuffy early in Day 2, silent since other than to say he is waiting on KE3 claim

So my opinion on who to vote for hasnt changed since the last time I posted.
It was Charm then and its Charm now.

I voted on Sirius to claim and he did.
I pursued KE3 w/o voting on him and he claimed.
I didnt really get involved much in charm's claim push but thats because I was away; I wouldnt have made a difference anyway.
Ill say again I think joak is telling truth about whatever connection there appeared to be with H8 was meaningless.
Ive come to believe this after KE3 vouched for him and while at same time joak started posting his thoughts about that connection.

I see a request out there for TC to be investigated/watched tonight and another demand or two for him to claim today.
Holy cow guys ... another claim on d2?

What if he claims townie power?
So then ... yeh, then what? Back to Charm?
or do we try to squeeze in another claim next from someone - before we need to start voting as the day would be about ready to end then.

Vote Charm

[TuffyLess]

I see you are browsing the forum Tuffy, anything to say?

Yeh and I just said it legion.
Mark the page number so I dont have to retype it for you in 10 pages.

[legionnare]

I see you are browsing the forum Tuffy, anything to say?

Yeh and I just said it legion.
Mark the page number so I dont have to retype it for you in 10 pages.

LOL

[legionnare]

And I'm pushing for TC to come out with his role as he has pushed a few to state their role fully, I find this a bit scummy.

[TuffyLess]

And I'm pushing for TC to come out with his role as he has pushed a few to state their role fully, I find this a bit scummy.

Yeh ... then refuses to himself.
If hypocritism is scummish then, TC is scum.
TC did say if he got some votes racked up against him, he would have no choice.
Im leaving it alone until later though.

All Im saying about the claimings is no more today ... there are so many out there already as it is.
I think we need to put forth the pool of folks on our consideration lists, find the common denominators, then lynch.

TBH, I cant imagine what there is left to say this round, that anyone would be willing to say anyway without being threatened, that would make me change my mind.

So thats where Im at.
If the majority of ya'll want to still pursue for role claims, then go ahead but Im not going to be interested in participating much in it.

[legionnare]

And I'm pushing for TC to come out with his role as he has pushed a few to state their role fully, I find this a bit scummy.

Yeh ... then refuses to himself.
If hypocritism is scummish then, TC is scum.
TC did say if he got some votes racked up against him, he would have no choice.
Im leaving it alone until later though.

All Im saying about the claimings is no more today ... there are so many out there already as it is.
I think we need to put forth the pool of folks on our consideration lists, find the common denominators, then lynch.

TBH, I cant imagine what there is left to say this round, that anyone would be willing to say anyway without being threatened, that would make me change my mind.

So thats where Im at.
If the majority of ya'll want to still pursue for role claims, then go ahead but Im not going to be interested in participating much in it.

True we do have enough claims for today, TC can be pursued tomorrow if Sirius is the reviver. Unvote
I'm willing to pursue Jusplay, he has been scummy looking since I posted my gut-instinct vote for him.

[charm]

Ok, Tuffy!
No more fun and games.


Crasp - Can we get a count. please?

[mookiemcgee]

Is not lynching anyone a possibility? I guess that would only favor Mafia, so maybe thats a horrible idea IDK.

What about my questions regarding night roles... Could Sirius be killed overnight before he has a chance to revive? Or is he guarenteed a chance to use his power before he is killed?

I've not been pushing for more claims, I tend to agree with Tuffy we have plenty of info(too much for me to really make sense of). If I get on board with Charm, and she turns out town I'd be suspicious of those who egg'd on the idea of Charm (Tuffy, TC), but I'm willing to vote that way if there is a consensus... We all need to come together on someone, it feel like too many real life days have passed with nothing accomplished.

I jokingly voted strgondock who isnt actually playing, but i'll officially unvote, and vote Charm to get things moving again.

[mookiemcgee]

Uh oh, I shoulda waited for the count I think. Was that the hammer vote?

Thats the second time i've been "that guy", doh!

[TuffyLess]

And I'm pushing for TC to come out with his role as he has pushed a few to state their role fully, I find this a bit scummy.

Yeh ... then refuses to himself.
If hypocritism is scummish then, TC is scum.
TC did say if he got some votes racked up against him, he would have no choice.
Im leaving it alone until later though.

Since he knows who killed H8 100% for sure, It would be helpful to speak out if he can eliminate even 1 person among us from the lynch list.
This isnt a claim demand or the like but do you or do you not have night info TC that will help this lynch?

[legionnare]

Uh oh, I shoulda waited for the count I think. Was that the hammer vote?

Thats the second time i've been "that guy", doh!

no she has 5 votes on her by my count

[mookiemcgee]

Thanks leg... I got through high school without taking notes, I'm not starting now just for Mafia. My count was also at 5, I think i got confused with the newb game that only has 9 people in it. ( i voted for charm there also )

Uh oh, I shoulda waited for the count I think. Was that the hammer vote?

Thats the second time i've been "that guy", doh!

no she has 5 votes on her by my count

[legionnare]

2 points on TC-
I'm certain that he and Gabs are connected in some way, Gabs was the only one that he said he was 100% sure on, as I said before either Masons or Mafia?
He was 5th to vote on KE3, considering that KE3 claim Town Cop with no counter and no hammer vote came down (only 2 more votes were needed) this leads me to believe that either all the mafia or all but 1 of the mafia had already voted on him.
Those that voted on KE3-
Legionnare - I know I am town
TC - again connected to Gab through a vote
Gab - again connected to TC through a vote
Kill - No read
Sirius - has a chance to prove he is town, if not then gets insta-lynched

[legionnare]

np

Thanks leg... I got through high school without taking notes, I'm not starting now just for Mafia. My count was also at 5, I think i got confused with the newb game that only has 9 people in it. ( i voted for charm there also )

Uh oh, I shoulda waited for the count I think. Was that the hammer vote?

Thats the second time i've been "that guy", doh!

no she has 5 votes on her by my count

[legionnare]

A third point I just thought of with TC, he gunned for Sirius pretty hard, does he see Sirius as the biggest threat to him?

[King Edward 3rd]

If you guys want me to check TC I will but I think we can look at him tomorrow but for now I Unvote & Vote Charm One other thing now that I was forced to claim I'll need some protection during the night.

[legionnare]

If you guys want me to check TC I will but I think we can look at him tomorrow but for now I Unvote & Vote Charm One other thing now that I was forced to claim I'll need some protection during the night.

Charm's now at L-1 nobody vote unless you are certain of what you are doing!

[TuffyLess]

Kill - No read

I sum up my notes of Kill pretty much in one word - aggressive.
That play style doesnt point to an alignment really though.

There is a good piece here:

If what Moo and King Ed say is true, my feeling is that the following are town:

Me
Crown
Gabs
Sirius
King Ed
Joak

The following, I don't know, but 3 or 4 are mafia:
Justplay
Tuffy
DB4
Charm
Mookie
Legionnaire

Personally, I tend to believe Charm, but for those who don't, I can't say I'd skin you for it if she is lynched and turns out to be town. To me, Justplay has to give more than what he has. I'm not referring to a post count per se, but Justplay has given us no indication as to what side of the fence he is on.

There cant be 4 mafia left ... I hope this game didnt possess 5 mafia in total.
The way this is turning out is there doesnt appear to be 2 mafia's; just not enough people unless each mafia is 2, max 3 people each.

So - back to the townie vig role in game?
This leads me back to H8 death, which leads to TC knowing all about it. Now, I dont want to push TC to hard because I think I know his role.
It isnt bad for me to put my thoughts about his possible role in public because I would hope he can be protected (or revived - is this possible MOD????) at night. Let the mafia go after him, he'll be protected.

The town list looks good; its not a threat though Killum but the only modification Id make is to swap positions in the 2 lists w/ you.
Its possible we're on the same team playing similar styles so just butting heads. You're playing similar as you did last game so I got a clue.

Id be more apt to fall in line with Charm if she'd roleplay more.
Id like to keep her around just for the entertaining comical reads alone, but not thinking we can afford it.
She claimed Regular so if thats true, then its better than lynching the other claims?

If you guys want me to check TC I will but I think we can look at him tomorrow but for now I Unvote & Vote Charm One other thing now that I was forced to claim I'll need some protection during the night.

Charm's now at L-1 nobody vote unless you are certain of what you are doing!

If this is true, then dont be a hammer if you're a townie!
Crasp ... we need an official count, its important.

If you guys want me to check TC I will but I think we can look at him tomorrow but for now I Unvote & Vote Charm One other thing now that I was forced to claim I'll need some protection during the night.

Maybe if we do have a doc AND Sirius is telling the reviving truth, we can keep the both of ya alive?

[Gabsensei]

with all that people said if we lose a regular townie over an important role then its ok so i think we should just lynch charm and go ahead

[Killuminati19]

Tuffy, my issue with you was that you called me a bandwagon voter, then modified it to say that I have voted more than others. I don't deny that.

I find it unsettling that Charm is at L1. I think it's very plausible that mafia know she is a townie as a few people on my suspect list have tossed votes her way.

TC cannot know what happened to H8 and be a mason brother with Gabs, atleast not to my knowledge.

[Killuminati19]

And I agree, there are most likely 3 mafia left.

[Gabsensei]

there is also the possibility that charm is mafia and none of them have vote for her

[SiriusCowKing]

Holy cow guys ... another claim on d2?

What if he claims townie power?
So then ... yeh, then what? Back to Charm?
or do we try to squeeze in another claim next from someone - before we need to start voting as the day would be about ready to end then.

I think we have enough claims, but like I said it would be a good trust start to have the cop check on TC. TC is the most influential player in the game and has always been it in all the games so far. As soon as we clear him from doubts, the town will all rally together and chase the mafias. You never replied to my demand tho, is there really a reason not to do it? Would you rather follow the most influential player without actually knowing if he's the good guy leading the town or the bad guy manipulating the town?

[TuffyLess]

Tuffy, my issue with you was that you called me a bandwagon voter, then modified it to say that I have voted more than others. I don't deny that.

I find it unsettling that Charm is at L1. I think it's very plausible that mafia know she is a townie as a few people on my suspect list have tossed votes her way.

Bandwagoning && voting the most often ... i dunno; that seems connectable.
But comon - we're the only 2 still arguing over something that occurred on r1 ffs.
Alot has developed since then so there are more important tell's out there to be pursuing.

About Charm ... we have some time for the hammer to fall.
This gives her some time to make a final case.
But perhaps more importantly, it gives us a momentary chance to see who hammers who?