The Village of Secrets [GAME OVER] Werewolves Win!

[Roger Dodger]

You will all see at the end I am right

[StorrZerg]

those statements of "you will see"
"you will regret"

these don't help us figure you out, OR who you would rather lynch, or who you think are townies.

+ It allows mafia to easily wagon onto you, and when the result is (if you are town) town, then its well RD played bad day 1, can't fault people for voting her....

I want you to express yourself more, talk about the other people who have claimed, what are your thoughts. The other 2 town? one mafia?

Regarding jonty, forget his role as vig, does he still seem like mafia to you? Why?

[jak111]

I am inclined to be wary of your claim, because earlier on you were talking about how you would be a great loss for the town if lynched. That hints toward a power role of some sort, which it turns out that you aren't. So you must believe you are a great asset to us as just a potential vote.

I am just gonna say this, out of everyone here I think IB, spiesr and Jonty are probably the only ones in this game that'd remember what I am talking about. But the whole "You'll regret it later if you lynch me" and "my gut is right" arguments from RD reminds me of that girl over a year ago now that actually got banned from CC due to how far she took some stuff (I forget the full details). But that one with the DP of the orange jacket guy with blonde hair and sunglasses. Remember her? Yeah, just seems familiar to me. She usually ended up as town but her way of fighting always resulted in everyone lynching her just to have the next day be more peaceful...

Anyway, getting sidetracked.

Yeah, I really am not changing my vote at his point, tomorrow I have a few ideas who I will be looking into (kgb being one, Imma whip him till we get his activity up further )

But worst case scenario here is we lose a VT, best case, mafia godfather/poisoner/etc.

[superkeener]

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pancakemix has replaced Lootifer

[pancakemix]

Howdy.

It's 2 am. So I will try to read up tomorrow and will definitely have a long-ass response by Thursday. Hang in until then.

[Lootifer]

Sorry guys I over committed and wasn't doing justice to this game. Thanks pancake.

Cheers and GL

[Roger Dodger]

I did not get banned. Ever. For anything so... This game has become too much trouble and to time consuming. Now I remember you I stopped playing.

[MudPuppy]

This game has become too much trouble and to time consuming. Now I remember you I stopped playing.

I'm reading you as town, RD... but you're not doing yourself any favors here. It's Day 1 and the game has already become "too much trouble for you?" What has been "time consuming?" You may say defending yourself but you haven't done a very good job of that. It hasn't been brushing up on basic Mafia terminology. It hasn't been your in-depth analysis of your reads on people because you have presented very little original support for the few reads you've expressed.

It basically sounds like you joined this game on a whim, got quickly bored/frustrated and have already decided to quit. Do you really want to go out like that?? I hope not. Please take some time to expand on your current reads which have been:

Anark & Jonty:

I'm believing the Anark. I don't believe Jonty.

I just want to say that, jonty was pushing me for a while now then he got others to join him in trying to get me lynched. I'm just here mending my own business. I still think he is not a good guy and , he has started a lynching party. Seems he has all his focus on me and convinced others to follow. That is just plain bad behavior.

Iron Butterfly (not sure if this was at all serious or not):

Stop picking on what I say. Don't u have anything better to do? The more u post negatively the more I think u r scummy and probably an outlaw too. Maybe next go around my vote sits on u. U U U lol

Whatsausage (I think this is a town read of sausage by you... but am not at all sure):

Now it seems like all the people who's name starts with a " J" and the sausage are all voting to lynch me. I think the sausage is only doing it cause I voted to lynch him first. I don't know about the other person who voted maybe he's in cohorts with the others.

Can you give your thoughts on some of the other players in this game?

[superkeener]

Official Vote Count 1.8

Anarkistsdream (1): rishaed
HotShot53 (1): spiesr
Iron Butterfly (1): MudPuppy
jak111 (0):
Jmac1026 (0):
jonty125 (4): StorrZerg, Roger Dodger, Anarkistsdream, pancakemix
kgb007 (0):
pancakemix (0):
MudPuppy (1): virus90
rishaed (0):
Roger Dodger (5): Iron Butterfly, Jmac1026, jonty125, jak111, Whatsausage
spiesr (0):
virus90 (0):
Whatsausage (0):
StorrZerg (0):

No Lynch (1): kgb007

Not Voting: HotShot53

With 15 alive, it takes 8 votes to lynch. If 8 votes are not reached by the deadline, then the first player with 6+ votes will be lynched.

Deadline for Day 1 is: Thursday, April 03, 2014, 10:00am CC Time.

Notes: pancakemix replaced Lootifer. X-Stor-X is now known as StorrZerg.

[jonty125]

So, since my last post. There has been a debate about whether RD really did claim, and for those rereading this post in the future, yes, yes she did, VT. RD, then says I'm no VT (she actually means vig), and continues on the anti-vigilante protest. And then posts the don't lynch me, you'll regret it. However much I'd love this to be scummy, (because it grates my nerves) it isn't, it's more nooby/inexperience, RD if you wanna survive in future games a) say why we should keep you alive by making yourself look better or b) construct a case on why somebody is worse than you, making you better by comparison, (so in this game you would probably construct a case to say I'm a SK/maf).

Yes, I believe that she's the harmless anti-vigilantarian, "plain town" lady she claims to be... and I believe she's being set up by opportunistic scum... and I suspect you're one of them.

MP, care to tell us more about this set-up. And if RD flips scum, you're going to fly up my agenda faster than superheilum up a wall.

And then everybody starts using the tags, shame I can't think of anything witty or I would have tried to carry on the trend. And then jak posts on the lack of kgb's activity. Would you mind clarifying the difference between real & useful posts.

No Jak I'm not willing to play your game, if scum choose no kill N1, then I'm really screwed.

RD mentions the J-sausage conspiracy, yet fails to bring any evidence (that's probably why it's a conspiracy) and completely misinterprets the sausage vote, me thinks we have a skimmer.
Zerg, tries to help RD by asking the right questions, which I have been asking for a while now later MP joins in on the act.

And jak, you're thinking of vodean.

That's all folks my vote stays. RD is still playing poorly/scummily and like has been mentioned several times by various people WCS - we lose a VT

[StorrZerg]

Everyone its StorrZerg, or Storr. Thx!

[jonty125]

Everyone its StorrZerg, or Storr. Thx!

Not Zerg like in Toy Story.

[jak111]

And then everybody starts using the tags, shame I can't think of anything witty or I would have tried to carry on the trend. And then jak posts on the lack of kgb's activity. Would you mind clarifying the difference between real & useful posts.

No Jak I'm not willing to play your game, if scum choose no kill N1, then I'm really screwed.

And jak, you're thinking of vodean.

Real and Useful, real posts I consider really anything that's not one liners/sheeping/(or like the last post I quoted in it, nothing to add to the game).
Useful posts, I consider things that add value and insight on reads and thoughts of the game (or tomorrow when we might have information from a PR). So basically a post we can use one way or another to at least read them/someone else off of and get original opinions in.

If scum do not kill N1, that's a win for us. That's one less townie dead in the night. Then again, you can WIFOM killing someone and have them No-kill and lose 0 people in the night.

No, not vodean, vodean wasn't banned. We had our fights but he didn't get out of hand like this person did. (Just took a stroll down memory lane looking at archives). Remember Now? That was a rough time...

[spiesr]

No Jak I'm not willing to play your game, if scum choose no kill N1, then I'm really screwed.

Are you saying that you are not willing to use you Vig power as a surrogate lynch if we decide we want to test your claim that way?
Vote Jonty

[MudPuppy]

So, since my last post. There has been a debate about whether RD really did claim, and for those rereading this post in the future, yes, yes she did, VT. RD, then says I'm no VT (she actually means vig), and continues on the anti-vigilante protest. And then posts the don't lynch me, you'll regret it. However much I'd love this to be scummy, (because it grates my nerves) it isn't, it's more nooby/inexperience, RD if you wanna survive in future games a) say why we should keep you alive by making yourself look better or b) construct a case on why somebody is worse than you, making you better by comparison, (so in this game you would probably construct a case to say I'm a SK/maf).

Yes, I believe that she's the harmless anti-vigilantarian, "plain town" lady she claims to be... and I believe she's being set up by opportunistic scum... and I suspect you're one of them.

MP, care to tell us more about this set-up. And if RD flips scum, you're going to fly up my agenda faster than superheilum up a wall.

You say that her play appears more nooby/inexperience than scummy and I agree. A Townie VI is the most obvious target for a mislynch:

Townie VIs are sometimes used as convenient scapegoats by Mafia, who will build a case around the stupid things the VI says as a case for lynching him or her. The other Townies are sometimes easily duped into such a lynch, or agree to lynch them on policy.

It's easy for scum to see the scumminess in her words... Any townie needs to ask themselves if she is simply an inexperienced fellow townie or if this is a clever and daring ploy by scum trying to act so inexperienced that she is given a pass. To me the answer is clear: She is a townie and has been marked for a D1 mislynch by scum.

Vote Jonty as I have a scummier read on Jonty and I think his death will provide more info than RD's.

[jak111]

Vote Jonty as I have a scummier read on Jonty and I think his death will provide more info than RD's.

I do believe that puts Jonty at L1.

[MudPuppy]

EBWOP: Unvote Vote Jonty

[Whatsausage]

Vote Jonty as I have a scummier read on Jonty and I think his death will provide more info than RD's.

I do believe that puts Jonty at L1.

L-2 actually, but he would be lynched if nothing changes in the next day

[jak111]

Official Vote Count 1.8

Anarkistsdream (1): rishaed
HotShot53 (1): spiesr
Iron Butterfly (1): MudPuppy
jak111 (0):
Jmac1026 (0):
jonty125 (4): StorrZerg, Roger Dodger, Anarkistsdream, pancakemix
kgb007 (0):
pancakemix (0):
MudPuppy (1): virus90
rishaed (0):
Roger Dodger (5): Iron Butterfly, Jmac1026, jonty125, jak111, Whatsausage, spiesr, MP
spiesr (0):
virus90 (0):
Whatsausage (0):
StorrZerg (0):

No Lynch (1): kgb007

Not Voting: HotShot53

With 15 alive, it takes 8 votes to lynch. If 8 votes are not reached by the deadline, then the first player with 6+ votes will be lynched.

Deadline for Day 1 is: Thursday, April 03, 2014, 10:00am CC Time.

Notes: pancakemix replaced Lootifer. X-Stor-X is now known as StorrZerg.

(Red is the added votes, 7 total, 8 needed for lynch, Jonty is literally only alive by a single vote).

[jak111]

Oops, never mind, I'm wrong, forget everything I just said. It's the plants. confusion.

[Whatsausage]

It's easy for scum to see the scumminess in her words... Any townie needs to ask themselves if she is simply an inexperienced fellow townie or if this is a clever and daring ploy by scum trying to act so inexperienced that she is given a pass. To me the answer is clear: She is a townie and has been marked for a D1 mislynch by scum.

While this is a possibility, I find it more likely with the number of players we have doing the minimum they can that the scum can be found there, than among those pushing for a lynch. It is much safer for scum to just wait out D1 with a potential no lynch or let the town fight amongst itself than to target someone to be lynched. A few players that come to mind who could be doing this are spiesr, hotshot, and rishead. I think virus has just become an inactive and perhaps should be replaced.

I don't really how the case on jonty has evolved past him changing his gameplay, and I'd rather take the risk of losing a VT than our vig.

[Roger Dodger]

I think lynching me will give no in site on anything. U will learn more from a jonty lynching. I have nothing to offer. Whereas he has something that can be told to proceed with this game. Picture this : an old lady in a house dress and slippers hanging from a rope. Her sad and distraught children and grandchildren crying at her feet. U really need to see the big picture.

[MudPuppy]

Picture this : an old lady in a house dress and slippers hanging from a rope. Her sad and distraught children and grandchildren crying at her feet. U really need to see the big picture.

Well, that is a sad picture indeed.

A REALLY nice picture would be the that of an old lady sitting on her porch and closely monitoring the comings and goings of everyone in town. Grandma Roger Dodger makes astute observations and take notes whenever someone does something scummish (or townish)... so, when the time comes to lynch someone, she can stand up (with help from her trusty old walking stick) and tell everyone, in great convincing detail, why Player XYZ should be the one hanged.

The not so nice picture of a jabbering crazy old cat lady isn't going to win over much support and may lead to a mercy killing.

[StorrZerg]

plz answer my questions and stop avoiding them Roger Dodger...

[virus90]

well im not convinced on the jonty case, as i said before. so i wont be the one pushing him over the edge.
and roger dodger is dodging a bit indeed. would prefer a vote on him if i have to choose between these 2.
but deadline is very close so we will see who where right and wrong in a day.