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The deadline had not past and I think you are overstating just how far ahead it was. I believe it had 3 votes at the time.Whatsausage wrote:No it wasn't posted correctly, but that's been covered and I believe you have learned nowKilluminati19 wrote:@Whatsausage
I posted on page 6 voting for CPR Doctor. Maybe it wasn't posted correctly? I don't know, but that was my vote.
But as to what you did vote... Why? (Ignoring that the deadline had passed) It was already far and ahead with the most votes, so why not choose between NRA and Godfather, whichever you believed to be a greater threat? Instead of just rolling along with the top consensus
Maxleod wrote:Not strike, he's the only one with a functioning brain.
Most people "vote" in this thread as well as making the official vote in the other thread, which is what both crasp and I did. That makes it easier for people to see what everyone is voting without looking at both threads all the time.Streaker wrote:All votes must be in other thread...
The reasoning was implicit in the comment: with 21 players, NRA member is just very unlikely to be visited, especially given that many of the roles that were selected will have been non-visiting roles. Sure, if the effect fires it has a powerful outcome, but people were getting worried over something that numerically was just not going to be a big deal for the first few days of the game.aage wrote: I did actually read the thread. This is the post I refer to, made precisely before the banning phase ended. And no, you did not mention NRA in any of your previous posts.
Yes, but my reasoning was that mafia likely chose more visiting roles like roleblock and killing roles while I assume town, because we had the luxury of spreading ourselves out, also picked some non-visiting roles like Politician or America. Actually though, I just looked again at the list of roles and I admit that there are far fewer of these than I had originally remembered.I would also like to call BS on your statistical reasoning since even though, yes, mafia may value their lives more, town probably has more roles (simply because there are more of them).
Ok, fine. I was mainly making the point that it's unlikely someone picked NRA member without knowing what they planned to do with it -- while I encourage people to give advice as they see fit, we don't need to have every single person post that they're not NRA member for the point to get across.No. You're misinterpreting my argument, in hindsight I phrased it quite vaguely. Picking NRA to deny it to mafia is pro-town play. Having done exactly that and not coming forward is non-town play. Even if some towny picked NRA with the intention of keeping quiet, I hope they realise that's a bad plan.
Maybe, but maybe they also intentionally steered clear of those high priority numbers because it was obvious they would be the focus of D1. (I mean, I'm not sure how to read Dj so far, but he had to know he would get scrutiny by picking [1,2].) I would bet there's at least one mafia relatively high up, but I wouldn't bet on finding all of them there. Also, keep in mind that the people in this area didn't necessarily pick 1-6, because of ties.virus90 wrote: 3. the high priority numbers (1-6? ) are probably gonna get targeted by mafia anyway. so whoever is town in the first few picks are probably nightlynched soon enough.
In the absence of evidence to the contrary (mod, care to confirm?) we should prepare for the worst, that mafia have been able to collaborate the whole time.i do want to place a sidenote though; theoreticaly mafia might have been able to communicate about draft numbers. if they where able to, theoreticly they might have had an advantage so could be higher in the draft order...
Virus90, here's a post from hotshot on the previous page;virus90 wrote:also about the NRA thing, what if its not picked.. so far no-one came forward with NRA nor with i picked it but it was gone. my thought as 5th was; i wont pick it. in the hypothetical case the first 3 are town. would the hypethetical 4th first mafia pick NRA? i mean maybe (lets pray) no one picked NRA.. its still possible...
FOS for skimmingHotShot53 wrote:This is exactly what I planned to do... I figured that it would prevent power roles from accidentally dieing, and would protect me since as the #3 pick scum will figure I must have gotten some good role, so I expected to be targeted on one of the first couple days. I tried to wait to say the following until the top 2 players had commented... but I don't think I can wait any longer as these days are pretty short. I didn't get the NRA member since one of the top 2 players already took it. Dj just claimed it wasn't him, and since he has seemed more towny to me, I am inclined to believe him for now. (And assuming he isn't the nra member, would recommend he gets protected, as he should have the best power role since he could take anything he wanted)
Hotshot, are you claiming that you were assigned VT after attempting to draft NRA member?HotShot53 wrote:I didn't get the NRA member since one of the top 2 players already took it.
The wanderer returns. I am back at work tomorrow and as you know cant always get access so if you want that vote lifted I suggest you are flaming quick.mtamburini wrote:Sup betches, I'm back and im still black. BOOOYACHUCKA!!!!!!!!!!
Not sure when day1 starts but wtf there is 20+ people here and were only at 10 pages!?!?! Am I the only person in this fucking site that can start conversations!?
Gonna read a bit and come back and flame some people
Yes, exactly.jwiedlin wrote:Hotshot, are you claiming that you were assigned VT after attempting to draft NRA member?HotShot53 wrote:I didn't get the NRA member since one of the top 2 players already took it.
I would like to hear from mtam on this.
semi long post incoming, but Idgaf about what you necessarily have to say about me your only one vote. If I didnt think you were town right now Id just get you lynched now because you would be of no use to town if your town and if you are mafia then even better. Explanation on why I think your town in a sec just looking for something I wanted to quote.crasp wrote:The wanderer returns. I am back at work tomorrow and as you know cant always get access so if you want that vote lifted I suggest you are flaming quick.mtamburini wrote:Sup betches, I'm back and im still black. BOOOYACHUCKA!!!!!!!!!!
Not sure when day1 starts but wtf there is 20+ people here and were only at 10 pages!?!?! Am I the only person in this fucking site that can start conversations!?
Gonna read a bit and come back and flame some people
I would never kill Storr so Im confirmed town.StorrZerg wrote:All role pms are out. Day 1 Is a go
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Thats bs cause even though you dont really know how to explain yourself with your reads you do get some of the right (referring to our clan games) You are also an easy read and from the things Ive read from you so far I would bet on you being town with me this game.charm wrote:Like I said, I'm not that good at this game! Regardless, it worked out fine because other roles were banned that should have been. Now since you are harping on that and the NRA wasn't banned, I'm assumming that is the role you chose, eh?Whatsausage wrote:How'd that turn out for ya?charm wrote:NRA was definitely going to get banned, so I chose Assassin to give some traction on another role. I had a busy afternoon and thought the vote was mandatory, so I chose something!
By the way, I'm looking for Chorizo Mexican Sausage (preferably made by Cacique Co) in Cocoa Beach, FL - Whatsausage, I thought you would know where I can score it! You should see me cook up sausage - yummy!
You know people can lie right? Ive only been online for about 5 min everyday when I wake up to take my turns and not miss a turn. One of the biggest reasons I havent been even looking in the thread is because I forget to click the notification when a reply is posted so I just assumed day hasnt started yet and were waiting for other people to pick their roles still.HotShot53 wrote:I am home finally from another 11+ hour workday... I can't wait until Oct 15 when I can become a normal worker againThis is exactly what I planned to do... I figured that it would prevent power roles from accidentally dieing, and would protect me since as the #3 pick scum will figure I must have gotten some good role, so I expected to be targeted on one of the first couple days. I tried to wait to say the following until the top 2 players had commented... but I don't think I can wait any longer as these days are pretty short. I didn't get the NRA member since one of the top 2 players already took it. Dj just claimed it wasn't him, and since he has seemed more towny to me, I am inclined to believe him for now. (And assuming he isn't the nra member, would recommend he gets protected, as he should have the best power role since he could take anything he wanted)Metsfanmax wrote:I'll just say this a different way so that it's clear. The only circumstance in which we get a situation beneficial to town is if some member of town took NRA member with the explicit intent to then tell everyone that they took NRA member so that town doesn't accidentally target them. IF THAT WERE THE CASE, then this person would have claimed already -- as soon as possible on D1 -- and we wouldn't need to go through this whole shtick which just wastes precious hours that we don't have. There is no likely circumstance in which the person that took NRA member is going to suddenly decide they want to tell everyone about it, if they didn't already plan to.
So that leaves mtam... crasp mentioned that mtam was online yesterday when crasp was posting, but mtam didn't post... to me, that sounds like scummarizing. Besides that, he was proud of not reading the rules, voted for the role ban late and in the wrong thread. I've found one of the best way to get scummarizers to post is to vote them... so I will vote mtam
1) Who are you?grt wrote:
I'll second that - would be good to hear from mtamburini especially as he is likely to have a good role.
I dont understand what you want from me.jwiedlin wrote:Hotshot, are you claiming that you were assigned VT after attempting to draft NRA member?HotShot53 wrote:I didn't get the NRA member since one of the top 2 players already took it.
I would like to hear from mtam on this.
Killuminati19 wrote:I would be inclined to push on someone further down the draft order, but what hotshot had to say on mtam was pretty compelling. Waiting to hear from mtam.
Hotshot was the #3 pick. He claims that he tried to draft NRA member, but ended up as a Vanilla Townsfolk because NRA member had already been chosen. If hotshot is telling the truth, either the #1 pick or #2 pick is the NRA member (djfireside and mtamburini respectively).mtamburini wrote:
I dont understand what you want from me.
Djfireside wrote:
I didnt get the hot role that everyone is on since it isnt any fun.
after rereading I understand what you want. I did not take NRA member, not sure what # you are on the draft but if you are town then someone above you has the role obviously, whether or not they claim it or not is not alignment indicative I think. If you are mafia this is a good way to get suspicion on the people above you.HotShot53 wrote:Yes, exactly.jwiedlin wrote:Hotshot, are you claiming that you were assigned VT after attempting to draft NRA member?HotShot53 wrote:I didn't get the NRA member since one of the top 2 players already took it.
I would like to hear from mtam on this.
Seems mtam has finally emerged... so I am looking forward to what he has to say also.
So the scenarios arejwiedlin wrote:Hotshot was the #3 pick. He claims that he tried to draft NRA member, but ended up as a Vanilla Townsfolk because NRA member had already been chosen. If hotshot is telling the truth, either the #1 pick or #2 pick is the NRA member (djfireside and mtamburini respectively).mtamburini wrote:
I dont understand what you want from me.
djfireside denies picking NRA member with the below post. That is why we want to hear from you on whether or not you are the NRA member
Djfireside wrote:
I didnt get the hot role that everyone is on since it isnt any fun.
So, what exactly would you have preferred us to do in your absence, throw out meaningless joke votes? The role ban phase was the most meaningful thing we had to discuss and scum hunt from.mtamburini wrote: Reading through the day start there was huge focus on role selection and the ban phase and I dont really understand why it has lasted so long. Like who gives a shit honestly that conversation should have lasted 24 hours tops.
HotShot53 wrote:So, what exactly would you have preferred us to do in your absence, throw out meaningless joke votes? The role ban phase was the most meaningful thing we had to discuss and scum hunt from.mtamburini wrote: Reading through the day start there was huge focus on role selection and the ban phase and I dont really understand why it has lasted so long. Like who gives a shit honestly that conversation should have lasted 24 hours tops.
So, both mtam and Dj have denied being the NRA member... which means one of them is lying, and is probably scum. Of the two of them, I still have a more town feeling on Dj and a more scum feeling on mtam, so I will leave my vote where it is. Best case scenario - we lynch a scum NRA member. Worse case scenario - we lynch a town with a "super against the grain" role, and then know Dj is the scum NRA member.
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