Once Upon A Killer Mafia (14/17) A Writers Block:Endgame

[StorrZerg]

@ultra, you are literally the worst confirmed person i've ever played with.
What happens if counter measures are in this game to prevent mass claiming? Did you ever think of that? Nope.

The idea that you think i don't have a "Fake claim" ready if i am mafia is super laughable. So stop judging this "refusal of claiming" as inherently scummy, since its not. I volunteered this information not because i was pressured, but because i was trying to trap hotshot.

I'm not ignoring you. I'm not giving into your silly demand of a claim, with out reading into the situation at hand and judging it.

you are not judging my actions regarding how i pressured hotshot as scummy.

You are judging the refusal of the claim as scummy.

Since its the latter, im going to continue to say, your persistence of my claim is stupid.

[HotShot53]

hmm i'm probably a liar... (but everyone all ready knows that)

But its now time for zivel question!

Hey zivel, your buddy/ lover what not.

Did that person "visit" mtamburini. cause if thats the case, its probably best for you to take the lead on that, so that person can stay under the radar. If not, then ill wait to see what that person does if they do anything.

Yep thats right, i saw 2 people visit tambo. hotshot obviously, and a larger reason as to why i pressured him to start.

Now i'm still undecided as to your claim hotshot. Since, the watcher information matches with what i gathered. I was hoping to catch you in a lie if you happened to be scum. Now this doesn't clear you, but it does ensure that the right information was presented. I'm still pending the 2 town reads between the 4 i named earlier, if you forgot i'd be happy to look them up (*i think they are pcm/strike/aage/streaker). I'm a little concerned with how much information you did happen to gather, since how stonewalled i was when inquiring information regarding mechanics and how roles work.

So this "unamed person" that visited mtamb. I'm sure this person knows how i feel about them, so i'm purposly going to keep it vague. (this is also why i'm asking zivel since i don't need to be going down or up any rabbit holes pending his response) I also think it might be good if they hinted at some indication on if they believed what you said. Since i know they visited.

Well, who knows, maybe whomever it was that said this could be Town on Town might be right after all. I still dislike how you mislead/lie about things, such as saying I didn't visit there when you now admit I did visit. I think what I've done should have proven my claim to you.

But if you are now telling the truth, that means I might have been right about scum trying to kill mtam because of reading him as DD's lover (or I guess they could have read him as vig too, as some did).

[StorrZerg]

So, how bout them town reads hotshot

@tambo, get in here and tell ultra he is an idiot for pushing me kthx.

[HotShot53]

Hotshot, I see you are reading this thread, would you mind responding to my posts and Storr's?

I often have this (and 5-7 or so other webpages) open in the background on my computer... just because the page is open doesn't mean I'm reading it though, I'm at work so I only have a minute here and there to actually read/reply usually

[UltrasPlot]

How does that help you at all?

You refuse to provide FLAVOR. FLAVOR! AND YOU EVEN CLAIMED NOT LOVER!

If he isn't lynched he's shot so...

P.S. ok hotshot

[StorrZerg]

How does that help you at all?

You refuse to provide FLAVOR. FLAVOR! AND YOU EVEN CLAIMED NOT LOVER!

If he isn't lynched he's shot so...

P.S. ok hotshot

Give me your input on the whole ordeal.
And input on the strike wolf situation.

I will not accept "meh i don't lik the push" I want, quotes of what you liked, or didn't like. You don't have to respond to everything (seriously you don't)
But i want to know what you find good, or really bad.

agree to this and ill give you my flavor.

[HotShot53]

So, how bout them town reads hotshot

@tambo, get in here and tell ultra he is an idiot for pushing me kthx.

I still don't see the point of this. I'm sure I can find towny sounding parts of posts on all 14 people, including even you. To give a full in-depth read I'll need to quote like 10-15 posts, and I don't know what use that is to anyone really, especially as most of my reads were "leans town" not "definite 100% town". I'll try to do it on someone tonight, but I hate wasting my time this way.

You should have enough to realize my claim is truthful anyway, if you are what you say you are.

[UltrasPlot]

Give me your flavor now or lynch.

There is no reason to delay here. You are buying yourself time to fake.

[UltrasPlot]

ebwop

you have 10 minutes

[StorrZerg]

So, how bout them town reads hotshot

@tambo, get in here and tell ultra he is an idiot for pushing me kthx.

I still don't see the point of this. I'm sure I can find towny sounding parts of posts on all 14 people, including even you. To give a full in-depth read I'll need to quote like 10-15 posts, and I don't know what use that is to anyone really, especially as most of my reads were "leans town" not "definite 100% town". I'll try to do it on someone tonight, but I hate wasting my time this way.

You should have enough to realize my claim is truthful anyway, if you are what you say you are.

You don't need to do 15 posts. Lower than 5 is fine. You only need to quote several post about the same subject to show an overall arching point. You can still quote single posts and read that post as townie, and explain why. Again the purpose is, if people like your conclusions you draw, and points you bring up, it can help you on your defense. DUH


As for your claim, not yet, pending what the other person says/does could damn you. Still have to see if that wire has been sprung.

[UltrasPlot]

Stop ignoring me. I'm pressing the issue.

[StorrZerg]

Give me your flavor now or lynch.

There is no reason to delay here. You are buying yourself time to fake.

not till you agree to terms.

[UltrasPlot]

Not agreeing to anything. It is easy as heck to paste your flavor here. You are buying yourself time on a pointless argument.

[UltrasPlot]

(well, I mean paraphrase but you get the ** point...)

Everyone please unlynch HotShot, I'm fairly convinced he's clean, at least more so than Storr.

[StorrZerg]

Not agreeing to anything. It is easy as heck to paste your flavor here. You are buying yourself time on a pointless argument.

and you keep avoiding your duty as a confirmed town to give input on important issues. Instead you are just flouncing around with your 2 bullets screaming claim.

[UltrasPlot]

You keep avoiding your duty to prove to us that you are indeed town. There is no need for me to give input on a controversial issue unless I am certain, lest I cause a mislynch based on a hunch. INSTEAD, it is my duty to come up with arguments that would seem scummy coming from any non-confirmed town, and therefore promote discussion.

Where is your flavor? It's two minutes past the deadline and you are most certainly here.

[Zivel]

Give me your flavor now or lynch.

There is no reason to delay here. You are buying yourself time to fake.

May I ask how you are going to lynch him without the support of the town? Your demanding attitude does nothing for your case. If people see quality in you posts then they will follow it up. But at the moment Storr has an interesting situation that could mean that he is clear and even clear Hotshot in the process. This demanding of Flavour does nothing.

What do you think would be more useful in this situation, Storrs outs the other person he tracked to Mtam? The person who visited Mtam comes out? Everyone stays quiet and we lynch Hotshot or Storr? Or we lynch someone else?

Those are the questions you should be asking, not if Storr is good enough to google some flavor, he has played this game enough to know how to make a claim properly.

[UltrasPlot]

Tell me one reason why he has not come up with flavor yet.

[StorrZerg]

thank you zivel.

[UltrasPlot]

btw js if I can't get my shots off tonight (or i get killed) assuming storr isn't lynched he's pretty much guaranteed mafia

Any reason in particular you can't get flavor?

[StorrZerg]

btw js if I can't get my shots off tonight (or i get killed) assuming storr isn't lynched he's pretty much guaranteed mafia

Any reason in particular you can't get flavor?

Your frustrated. I get it, your confirmed town, and this idiot (storr) is refusing to work with you.

Your not asking the right question either. I have flavor, i've had flavor. Zivel is right on that aspect, that this isn't something spontaneous, this whole ordeal was clearly planned and thought out. There is still the possibility, of mafia having the ability to kill by knowing the name + role of a person. I've given one part, i see no reason to give the other. Just chill out for a bit.

Wait to see what happens regarding the other person "visiting" mtamb. Focus on solving the game, not pushing me for a claim. Zivel has all ready requested you to chill out and let the situation evolve.

[Zivel]

thank you zivel.

Its alright, dont think this get you off future scrutiny from me or nothing but his power tripping was doing my head in.

[Zivel]

Focus on solving the game, not pushing me for a claim. Zivel has all ready requested you to chill out and let the situation evolve.

This Ultra, there is a few more days to go and we have some interesting information to digest. Lets just see what others have to say about it before we start jumping to conclusions. If I dont like what Storr does I am happy to lynch him with ya after that.

[UltrasPlot]

Well well well storr why didn't you say that earlier? You now claim that your flavor is necessary to ensure the safety of the town...

You even offered me the flavor on conditions I never had to fulfill. In the meantime I'll look more closely at the other person visiting mtam situation.

Don't you dare think you're off the hook though. And I'm not unlynching you quite yet.

[UltrasPlot]

To the point: I believe you should wait and see who admits to visiting mtam, and if no one does within a reasonable time period, you should reveal said person as a potential mafia suspect.