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[mtamburini]

Why would stor being blocked stop it? Surely just you being blocked would.

If he was jailed it wouldnt work

[mtamburini]

Its pretty laughable people are starting to start a wagon on me. I think scum had something to do with my night action not working to make me look scummy, and Im ok with that, well the part with them using their actions on me. It just means the rest of the town roles are gonna be able to use their actions and mine are just gonna keep getting absorbed. If my night action gets sacrificed so other town can get their actions off then Im ok with that.

[Streaker]

What the hell are people going after Mtam? The same couple that had their votes placed on him at D1 end.

Pixar is first on the list though, sempai summed it up already:

Tempted to vote Storr for creating the bandwagon that cost us a vig.
Anyone have any better ideas?

sempai

Storr obviously was just trying to save his own skin - I'd still be happy to vote for him at the end of the day if there are no other strong candidates, but first I'd like to know why the others jumped on that bandwagon instead of just going after him?

I wasn't really convinced by the case against you, to be honest, and pershy wasn't exactly clear about what his role was when he claimed.
Still, I wasn't sure the choice should have been between Storr and pershy, but I didn't think I could get people to follow my lead - especially since I didn't finish rereading the thread until about 15 minutes before the deadline.

I agree with BG about not following Storr, but I'm not quite as wary of Storr as BG is.

Lynching Pixar may not be a bad idea. Voting no lynch D1, skimming, not posting much of substance - I don't know that I'd say he's been very helpful to town thus far.

sempai

To that list you can add voting someone who is very likely not mafia (storr), that helps town absolutely nothing.

actually what do you guys think of mtam claiming Hairy Potter but the scum not targetting him? kind of fishy...

And how do you know that mafia didn't target him, exactly?


Degaston should probably be lynched today, he got close yesterday. And now he's fishing after the HP power role lol.

actually what do you guys think of mtam claiming Hairy Potter but the scum not targetting him? kind of fishy...

I think we found our lynch for today.

Pixar's on the top of my scum list right now, but I'd still appreciate an explanation for whether you could, or could not be killed in the night.

Mtam did you do anything last night?

Please fill out a form in triplicate stating why you need to know this and how it will help the town.
In any event, your question will remain unanswered.

But this is not a question to ask? Just lol.

Well there you go you knuckleheads we just lost two townies. Pixar and I were right, mtam should have been hung even with the so called HP claim, VOTE MTAM

Please wait in line. We will get to you shortly.

Its pretty laughable people are starting to start a wagon on me. I think scum had something to do with my night action not working to make me look scummy, and Im ok with that, well the part with them using their actions on me. It just means the rest of the town roles are gonna be able to use their actions and mine are just gonna keep getting absorbed. If my night action gets sacrificed so other town can get their actions off then Im ok with that.

It's laughable, but not unwarrented for your play on D1. You drew a LOT of attention to yourself, and had half the players convinced you are scum. The only thing saving you is the best claim in this game. It should not be a surprise that at least a couple of powers were aimed at you and/or Storr this night.

So from what I read on D2, scum list in order:

-Pixar
-Madmitch
-Degaston

I'll need to reread ( ) D1 a bit to piece it together though.

Vote Pixar

[Metsfanmax]

Have people played other games with Pixar? Is this playstyle abnormal for him?

[Streaker]

Have people played other games with Pixar? Is this playstyle abnormal for him?

I can't tell i Pix is being scummy or retarded. He always plays a bit stupid in clan games but this game he has taken it to another level.

Going after harry potter at this stage is weird play. I get he could have fake claimed but can you really see that with no counter?

[dazza2008]

Pix always plays weird so is hard to read.

I can't believe people didn't expect a harry potter claim to get blocked or something by scum. The watcher dying doesn't help.

Do we really think the mafia would even try to kill him? Surely that is too risky for night 1 with watchers and docs and shit around.

[MudPuppy]

Hey all. Busy in rl with family emergency. May be largely out of action much of this week. Following along on phone.

Look at last minute votes against Severus. Felt like more than a couple of folks were following action as a guest then popped on last minute to hang the town vig.

[BGtheBrain]

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[StorrZerg]

Have people played other games with Pixar? Is this playstyle abnormal for him?

All TNC people have played with pixar.

He doesnt fully grasp the game. He also tends to rely on his role to decide if he will be involved int he game or not. He struggles to keep up in even a 10 person game, so this has to be killing him.

I struggle to get a good read on him, but this is consistent with his normal play...

Aka not alignment indicative.

[Streaker]

Have people played other games with Pixar? Is this playstyle abnormal for him?

All TNC people have played with pixar.

He doesnt fully grasp the game. He also tends to rely on his role to decide if he will be involved int he game or not. He struggles to keep up in even a 10 person game, so this has to be killing him.

I struggle to get a good read on him, but this is consistent with his normal play...

How do you handle him in your games? Though actually this should matter very little, as his vote + explanation on Mtamb is enough for a push actually.

[Epitaph1]

VOTE COUNT

mtamburini - Pixar, mitch
Pixar - mtamburini, Streaker
Storr - BG

With 22 alive, it takes 12 to lynch.

[degaston]

What the hell are people going after Mtam?

(Assuming you meant to say "Why" instead of "What")
Why are you asking this when you answer yourself later in your own post?:

It's laughable, but not unwarrented for your play on D1. You drew a LOT of attention to yourself, and had half the players convinced you are scum. The only thing saving you is the best claim in this game. It should not be a surprise that at least a couple of powers were aimed at you and/or Storr this night.

Though I don't see how something can be both laughable (so ludicrous as to be amusing) and "not unwarranted" (justified or necessary) at the same time. Can you explain, or did you mean that his play is ludicrous, and therefore the suspicion of him is "not unwarranted"?

I'd really like to believe him, but his play has been so scummy that he's drawn suspicion to himself, and hurt the town in the process. He exposed that he had a power role and who he was going to target for no good reason. He's contradicted himself about what can happen to him at night. And then you call me scummy for pointing these things out and asking him to explain himself? I'm not trying to lynch him, and I wasn't fishing for anything other than for him to explain the contradictions that he already put out there.

Mtam did you do anything last night?

Please fill out a form in triplicate stating why you need to know this and how it will help the town.
In any event, your question will remain unanswered.

But this is not a question to ask? Just lol.

That little winky thing at the end means that this was just a joke referencing how mtam refuses to answer any questions that are asked of him. <- The rolling eyes thing means I can't believe you didn't understand that without me having to explain it to you.

[StorrZerg]

vote bg

Omgus vote
complains that thread moves to fast
switched his vote to degaston last min making pershy switch harder.
Isn't scum hunting. Focused on " removing annoyance "

btw pix claim will be good way to tell his alignment.
Of the few games I played with him, he is never night killed.
he self hammered himself as town when he was frustrated.
Gave up on day 1 as vt one game.
as mafia did stupid stuff, but didn't give up.

[BGtheBrain]

*****

[StorrZerg]

I have fully claimed that's how bad you are skimming

[BGtheBrain]

*****

[StorrZerg]

I have fully claimed that's how bad you are skimming

Yeah, your missing the part where I say you arent revealing everything.

I have nothing further to say to you and IU wont contribute to you further clogging this game with garbage by letting you antagonize me into a back and forth.

You can't have it both ways. I've fully claimed
no wand
no power
squib
filch
survivor.

If you want the game to stop being about me, stop making the game about me.

I was extreamly quiet the last 2 days ( for myself ) prior to the end of say.

I can tone my posting down. The way you talk to me, you know what I say is true. You know I'm not mafia, and your to fucking lazy to actually look for scum.

Honestly I'm the most honest person in the game right now. I have to give my brutal honesty in hopes as living as 3rd party. That's one thing you can trust. While you have no idea about everyone else, the 9ne thing you can count on is that I need to find scum to stay alive.

[degaston]

...Because you will do whatever it takes for YOU to win the game and not what is in the bestinterest of town....

This is exactly what I was saying at the end of D1. aage seemed to think that storr was no threat to the town, but he has already shown how he is a threat.

Honestly I'm the most honest person in the game right now. I have to give my brutal honesty in hopes as living as 3rd party. That's one thing you can trust. While you have no idea about everyone else, the 9ne thing you can count on is that I need to find scum to stay alive.

You wouldn't honestly answer my question about what happens if the town gets close to lynch or lose. The answer is obvious, but it's not good for you because you'd have to say that you'd side with the scum at that point. As far as finding scum, you've already failed at that. You turned a potential lynch of someone who was not town (yourself) into a lynch of a townie with a power role.

I'll be happy to lynch Storr at the end of the day if nothing better comes up, but until then, I think a claim from pixar is a reasonable goal. His votes for Storr and Mtam do nothing to help the town at this point.
Unvote
Vote Pixar

[Epitaph1]

VOTE COUNT

mtamburini - Pixar, mitch
Pixar - mtamburini, Streaker, degaston
Storr - BG
BG - Storr

With 22 alive, it takes 12 to lynch.

[StorrZerg]

I turned a lynch on an investigation role onto a half claimed unknown that could have been mafia.
He had overlap with tambo claim.

It's likely the lynch could have stayed with out my selfish swing. And town could e upset not enough had been on to have the swing happen. The day went longer than expected as well.

Miss lynches happen, lynching me isn't a "miss lynch" in your eyes, but it's still not a lynch on a mafia.

[got tonkaed]

Lynching storr at this point seems to be a waste of resources. Given that night actions seemingly worked in town's favor, its not like we are hitting lylo tomorrow or something. People jumping on the storr/mtam trains at this point are either not really trying or shooting for easy lynches.

Vote Pixar.

Based on reasons above.

[Epitaph1]

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[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

Hi guys.

I have been following the game but will need to reread the whole thing again before providing anymore info that one I post now. Please bear with me here and give me a couple of days to do so.

There are two major points which are distracting a few on here.

Firstly, Mtam has claimed Harry Potter. Until such a time as a Harry Potter flips or the game progresses to a point where another Harry Potter is willing to claim (Presumably the real one if Mtam is not the Real one), we must assume that Mtam is telling the truth. If he is lying, then he is still only one of the scum and has played the ultimate skin saving card. I dont believe him to be lying, but it makes no difference to how we play from here on.

Secondly, Storr is a survivor. Throwing out the idea that if it gets to Lylo then you would rather have town than 3rd party survivor is a nonsense argument. The choice is not between town and 3rd party, the choice is between 3rd party in a lylo situation or an extra night having lynched mafia. So 6 Town, 5 Mafia, 3rd Party or 6 Town, 6 Mafia. In the former option Storr will not know that it is lylo, and he is also infinitely more town aligned than mafia.

The more we poke Storr, the more annoying and disruptive he will be. He is providing information, you do not have to read or listen to anything he says, but until you believe him to be lying about his role, there is little reason to lynch him at this stage. (unless we do not have a lynch at deadline, in which case a "free" lynch on Storr is better than wasting the lynch opportunity)

What I noticed early in the game, is every time Streaker made points similar to what I just wrote, BG would drag the conversation back onto these two off-scumhunting topics. It hasnt been queried as far as I am aware, so that might be worth a look into.

Anyway, thats my two cents, see you in a couple of days with a bit more.

[*Pixar*]

If there is a possible 2 Night Kills for the scum I might be the reason why there was only one kill last night, Will claim if need be.

[Epitaph1]

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