[Official] Wheel of Time:EotW [8/14] D4:Twisted Pattern

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

You ain't third party again, are you

Storr is always third party, probably a survivor too

[StorrZerg]

@Wing I didn't know, then I knew. I got a msg. So while I was going on about Hotshot's alignment and who took his vote, I didn't know anyone visited me.

[Streaker]

@Wing I didn't know, then I knew. I got a msg. So while I was going on about Hotshot's alignment and who took his vote, I didn't know anyone visited me.

This answer makes sense, and is even rather obvious. I wonder why Wing would push this.
Though I still don't see how this clears you as mafia.

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

@Wing I didn't know, then I knew. I got a msg. So while I was going on about Hotshot's alignment and who took his vote, I didn't know anyone visited me.

This answer makes sense, and is even rather obvious. I wonder why Wing would push this.
Though I still don't see how this clears you as mafia.

I agree the answer makes sense, I do not see how it is obvious. Storr was pushing for Hotshot to be deemed town due to having his vote "stolen" for quite a while before he noticed that he had an unread message in his inbox. We are not talking about half an hour here.

Its gonna be amusing tomorrow when everyone visits Storr to find out what the gifts are and then he has complete lynch power!

[StorrZerg]

Sigh. I got a msg saying my visit returned nothing. I assumed that also meant no one visited me. I got another msg much latter. Which I then claimed to have Hotshot's vote as well as someone else.

I'm town. Not 3rd party.

[HotShot53]

The ability I got is town, but I agree there is no reason to say what it is.

After i got the result of the day action, I had to agree to the trade, so I can imagine if the mod wasn't online then storr wouldn't have known about it immediately.

With all that said... I don't see how that confirms storr is town, but I would lean town on him for now.

[StorrZerg]

Well, who do you wanna vote hotshot..

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

Vote DD515

Stop lurking

[StorrZerg]

Well till he says otherwise, I'm putting Hotshot's vote on dd15.

[madmitch]

i reason I was late in claiming is because I was not that sure what I was trading for so I asked the host and recieved the answer that I liked and trade it was also pro town

[Endgame422]

Does everyone have the ability to "visit" someone during the day?
And IB i said id be gone for the weekend so not sure why you were pushing me sunday morning guessing you just were not paying attention.
im thinking mars pushing the easy lynch on mitch seems townish to me. Scum doesnt need an easy lynch day one and scum would also be pleased to keep mitch as he generally sows confusion and never hunts scum.
That said VOTE MITCH
Its not the nice thing to do but in another flavoured game like this(where i expect mitch to post 99percent nonsense)i think mitch will be an easy late game lynch for scum and id rather not worry about him later.
And i dont put much on viruss slip. He is ESL and words things a bit strangely as a rule.
And ill wait and see if everyone can visit someone before going into the storr/HS vote exchange thing.

[Iron Butterfly]

As far as Storr. His answer sounds reasonable though I now laugh at the irony of his present situation given our initial exchange on Hotshot.

[StorrZerg]

Well end game done the most scummy thing yet this game lol

[Endgame422]

Well end game done the most scummy thing yet this game lol

Being tired of mitchs flavour posting BS?
Or agreeing with mars/IB?
Im curious.

[madmitch]

I don,t know how many people have the ability to visit somebody but I know I did that was my only day ability and hopefully I can use it for town . Ido not understand endgame vote against me but it is quite unremarkable and slightly scummy FOS

[Talapus]

I don,t know how many people have the ability to visit somebody but I know I did that was my only day ability and hopefully I can use it for town . Ido not understand endgame vote against me but it is quite unremarkable and slightly scummy FOS

Now I'm confused. You said visiting someone was your only day ability but in the prior post you didn't know what you were trading for. That makes it sound like you instigated the trade but until you found out what you were getting you weren't going to go through with it. So what is it Mitch, visit someone and trade, or just visit and the trade some how happened?

Because it sounds like you have more then the ability to just visit people. Also, was this a fair trade? Because you said you got something awesome. The reason I ask is because it is fairly easy to prove if someone traded something mutually with you. However, there is the possibility you visited someone and stole an ability and there was no trade. So again, please clarify.

[Iron Butterfly]

Does everyone have the ability to "visit" someone during the day?
And IB i said id be gone for the weekend so not sure why you were pushing me sunday morning guessing you just were not paying attention.
im thinking mars pushing the easy lynch on mitch seems townish to me. Scum doesnt need an easy lynch day one and scum would also be pleased to keep mitch as he generally sows confusion and never hunts scum.
That said VOTE MITCH
Its not the nice thing to do but in another flavoured game like this(where i expect mitch to post 99percent nonsense)i think mitch will be an easy late game lynch for scum and id rather not worry about him later.
And i dont put much on viruss slip. He is ESL and words things a bit strangely as a rule.
And ill wait and see if everyone can visit someone before going into the storr/HS vote exchange thing.

So your saying lets get rid of the red headed step child before he does any damage to Town even if he may be Town?

im thinking mars pushing the easy lynch on mitch seems townish to me

please explain.

[StorrZerg]

I don,t know how many people have the ability to visit somebody but I know I did that was my only day ability and hopefully I can use it for town . Ido not understand endgame vote against me but it is quite unremarkable and slightly scummy FOS

Now I'm confused. You said visiting someone was your only day ability but in the prior post you didn't know what you were trading for. That makes it sound like you instigated the trade but until you found out what you were getting you weren't going to go through with it. So what is it Mitch, visit someone and trade, or just visit and the trade some how happened?

Because it sounds like you have more then the ability to just visit people. Also, was this a fair trade? Because you said you got something awesome. The reason I ask is because it is fairly easy to prove if someone traded something mutually with you. However, there is the possibility you visited someone and stole an ability and there was no trade. So again, please clarify.

He is the same as hotshot. They are told they can trade their vote for an item. If they agree, they are informed that they traded for an item. I have no control over which item each person got, nor can I decline a trade. I'm simply told I have control over more votes or none

[Marashu]

Hmm. I think I'm sold on Storr being town. I just want to confirm, though, Storr - it's people who visit you who get the option to trade? It's a passive thing of yours? And you also have a visit action on top of this?

Does everyone have the ability to "visit" someone during the day?

I will confirm that I have the ability to visit someone during the day.

[StorrZerg]

Correct Marashu

[madmitch]

THANKS STORR FOR EXPLAINING IT BETTER THAN ME

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

5 days in to a 10 day deadline and already four votes of Mitch? What am I missing

[Marashu]

My next question is, would these powers that mitch or hotshot got be a hinderance to town if mafia got a hold of them? Or neutral? Or helpful to town even if the mafia had them? I'm thinking we should look to lynch someone outside of mitch, for that alone.

FoS End - I asked about lynching mitch before it became known that he was involved in that trade, and because I feel like part of what makes him dangerous is that he also votes strangely even when town. I feel like you're trying to win some town points.

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

a hinderance to town if mafia got a hold of them? Or neutral? Or helpful to town even if the mafia had them?

Do you want mafia to know that?

[StorrZerg]

Doesn't matter right now what the items are. They both are pro town. Inquiring more doesn't help to find mafia. Only gives mafia an ideas. Best to leave them in doubt about what's happening. Even if one of them is mafia who visited me, they won't know the other item.
The only thing to debate is is it worth trading your vote to me, someone who is "unknown" ( but I'm obviously town) I'll still allow input with vote, and I expect input. Votes become more valuable latter in the game.