[Official] Wheel of Time:EotW [8/14] D4:Twisted Pattern

[StorrZerg]

neither mad mitch. could be a town pr with no day action upon visiting, its not a common thing imo.

Only a few people have day visit actions.

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

So we go into a weekend with 3 votes:

GT voting Mars
Virus voting Tal
And myself voting Tal if Storr has placed said vote.

Cracking work guys. Everyone has the day power to vote.

[Talapus]

I'm starting to think day actions aren't going to get us many places.

I visited wing last night and "nothing happened". I didn't want to attempt to visit same person as before because I still can't figure out if I even did, but nothing happening isn't getting us anywhere either.

Virus got a nothing happend. Obviosly might have been because I wasn't home? Are other people getting this? I can't imagine there is much correlation between visiting people who aren't home to get this result because that doesn't seem to be the case from the first night.

The other possibility is that day actions correspond with night actions in a way that if nothing happens, maybe it's a way to tell the player to focus their efforts elsewhere?

Obviously they mean something people so did anyone get a nothing happens day 1?

[virus90]

talapus just showed exactly what i meant. just talking mechanics, no opinion.

i dont really want to talk mechanics but
i think, some people trigger a rection when they are visited, i got the feeling that it doesnt matter if people are home or not, dont have the feeling that storr stayed home. i visited wing last day and got a nothing happened aswell so im not surprised you got the same. im pretty sure i told that already yesterday.

[Talapus]

talapus just showed exactly what i meant. just talking mechanics, no opinion.

i dont really want to talk mechanics but
i think, some people trigger a rection when they are visited, i got the feeling that it doesnt matter if people are home or not, dont have the feeling that storr stayed home. i visited wing last day and got a nothing happened aswell so im not surprised you got the same. im pretty sure i told that already yesterday.

You did say that but I was trying to confirm. Because like I said it has to mean something. I think if two town visit either nothing is going to happen or they will have a pleasent chat or something.

This is huge if it is true which is why you should be open to discussing it. We simmply get a list made of all day actions from day visits and presto, we know if something happened they are probably a major power role, scum, or cult. Narrows our list down real quick.

Right now I find it extremely suspect that mtam missed both day actions even after he found out yesterday they will continue to happen and some people received items. It means either extremely lazy bad timing or he has something to hide and doesn't want to visit anyone.

[StorrZerg]

SO yeah it is interesting TAMBO

cause i visited you, and you are not home.... ><

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

So if you visited Tambo then you would not have been home to offer me a trade.

Yup this is the worst logic ever.

[StorrZerg]

I've visted every day. my power specifically allows me to hand items to people who visit me. Me going out has nothing to do with it as far as i can tell.

tambo idk whats up with him though.

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

I've visted every day. my power specifically allows me to hand items to people who visit me. Me going out has nothing to do with it as far as i can tell.

So can we drop the "they werent home" logic now please

[Iron Butterfly]

So if you visited Tambo then you would not have been home to offer me a trade.

Yup this is the worst logic ever.

Thats not how it works.

Thats like saying because someone uses a night action they would not be home to receive one.

@Virus and mechanics are very important this game so stop demonizing Tal. The problem this game proposes is that with our regular game play there is no need to figure mechanics. We chat during day and use night actions at night. We determine scum by scum tells, which are only learned through practice and habbit.

This game we have no idea what correct day action response is and each charachter has different goals.

How can you NOT focus on mechanics while Storr is manipulating the game based on the mechanics of how his role works? We are then expected to take everyones explanation of how roles work at face value? Trust me, Trust me says the unknown quantity.

So people are jumping on Tal and yet still Mtam gets a free pass. "Gee I missed my day vote AGAIN...Welll Sorrrryyyyy."

Unvote Vote Mtam

[StorrZerg]

Wing, no. Because it means something.

WHen i visited Virus day 1, my result was something like "nothing happened"

Today it was mtamb isn't home. Its 2 different kinds of results of nothing.

[StorrZerg]

@ib while i mtamb being inactive playing smite instead of posting sucks, mars is still scum.

[rishaed]

Vote Count:

Marashu (2) - gotTonkaed, Storr
mtamburini (1) - IB
Talapus (2) - WCmdrG, virus90

With 14 alive it takes 8 to lynch.
Deadline July 11th.

[StorrZerg]

people place votes plz

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

Wing, no. Because it means something.

WHen i visited Virus day 1, my result was something like "nothing happened"

Today it was mtamb isn't home. Its 2 different kinds of results of nothing.

I see, completely different to whatever Tal is on about. This is much clearer. We need an explanation Mtam.

Somehow I doubt we'll get one.

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

We simmply get a list made of all day actions from day visits and presto, we know if something happened they are probably a major power role, scum, or cult. Narrows our list down real quick.

I object to any plan that involves identifying the strong town roles to mafia.

[StorrZerg]

i don't because we can just kill the mafia then. and strong protective roles can protect the strong town!

[shadesslayerr]

u mind if i join?

[StorrZerg]

possibly replace in.

[Marashu]

First of all, Vote Storr - right now I really want a claim out of him, and I feel like this is the only way. Unless we want a mass claim (or at least a mass character claim), as Storr suggested, but with the day actions already passed, I think that ship has sailed and we should hold off until D3.

As for my day action, the person I visited wasn't there - but I submitted the day action right at the start of the day, before it was revealed that he had a commuter night action, so that could be carrying over to the day.

[StorrZerg]

mechanics don't work like that.

o whats up marash? upset im pushing you? I lead a lynch on mafia yesterday, you town read me. Now people calling me scum so you wanna bandwagon in? What is it?

[StorrZerg]

So whats really funny is marash, you want my character claim, yet you think you have figured out which persons i could possibly be, Thus what ever i claim doesn't mean anything.

plz lynch this marash guys, he is just role hunting, he is the only person in this game that woulda killed endgame off of the character hint he dropped day 1.

[Iron Butterfly]

So whats really funny is marash, you want my character claim, yet you think you have figured out which persons i could possibly be, Thus what ever i claim doesn't mean anything.

plz lynch this marash guys, he is just role hunting, he is the only person in this game that woulda killed endgame off of the character hint he dropped day 1.

So why does Mtam keep getting a free pass?

[Marashu]

mechanics don't work like that.

o whats up marash? upset im pushing you? I lead a lynch on mafia yesterday, you town read me. Now people calling me scum so you wanna bandwagon in? What is it?

Things change, opinions change. I did think you were town yesterday. I'm not as convinced today. I do think I know what character you are. I do think that you will be fakeclaiming to avoid claiming that character. I am looking to see who you fakeclaim.

@IB - I'm more interested in the fact that we're still waiting on mtam to explain his night action. We know he has one, we know he targeted me with whatever it was. As for his day actions, yeah, he should have known after the first time about the deadline. If he's choosing not to use it, then that's about as helpful to us as his lack of posts.

[StorrZerg]

so what changed? Between town reading me yesterday, and scum reading me today?

@ib, because marash is scum.