[Official] Wheel of Time:EotW [8/14] D4:Twisted Pattern

[Endgame422]

For lynches/vig shots im not interested in dd/wing for their respective roles in streakers lynch.

[StorrZerg]

tal who did you save n1

[HotShot53]

If someone plans to shoot me, let me know so I can claim first, although I'm not sure why people think I am scummy.

Possibly because you keep on asking for a mass claim

Really? That's your answer? Being as that is the first time I even mentioned a mass claim.... kind of impossible that's the reason. *adds another FOS on you

[Metsfanmax]

If someone plans to shoot me, let me know so I can claim first, although I'm not sure why people think I am scummy.

Possibly because you keep on asking for a mass claim

Really? That's your answer? Being as that is the first time I even mentioned a mass claim.... kind of impossible that's the reason. *adds another FOS on you

No, it's not. Back on D2, when Storr said he was giving out vig shots for the first time, you also suggested a possible mass claim then. The problem is that this is a scum suggestion right now. Town is doing pretty well: clearly whatever roleblockers or docs we have were able to stop a mafia kill last night. Plus we've already got one scum down. Whatever happens, town is far from being in trouble right now. On the other hand, if you're scum, you might very well be panicking right now and hoping that a mass claim will ferret out the doctors and roleblockers, and with 11 people left it'll be easy to get a fakeclaim in.

[Talapus]

tal who did you save n1

I in fact visited and tried to save you. After you claim of handing out awesome stuff I thought you made the most sense. But i dont believe anything happened.

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

For fecks sake GT.

I specifically asked for GT's opinion on the Mars lynch because of GT coming out and saying AFTER the N1 that he thought End v1.0 was scum! Thats why End 2.0 adds up, but it rely's on GT being an idiot. This really pisses me off. Nevertheless Unvote

"Mitch and HS ought to say who the protected"

- They had commuter roles so protected themselves

"Could have been RBd(probably by town tbh) or someone could have saved virus."

- Is it possible we have enough docs to protect Virus and the mafia kill? And why would a doc have protected Virus? Or would mafia try and kill Virus too? Unlikely imo. So how is Virus still alive? Add the fact I roleblocked Tal and this is somewhat fishy.

[Endgame422]

Did someone else not take an extra RB from storr D2?
I could easily see why you would have targeted GOT with it.
I do not think virus was doc saved more likely GOT was RBd.
Makes very little sense for scum to try and hit virus and even less for a doc to protect after his hammer on mars.
If someone did RB the vig shot(with a 1 time use RB from storr)i would say you should claim that action.
If GOT/tal were the ones RBd last night tal will definetly be under consideration for a lynch today/shot tonight.
Hmm mitch and HS had selfprotecting roles huh? That kind of kills my line of reasoning about who was saved N1. Also tal claiming he saved storr N1 is strange to me. Softclaim from him?

Day one I tried to visit GT and received a my princess was in another tower response.

Quoted this for you IB. Im not a female character so the princess line is not indicative of the player you tried to visits gender

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

Dont think anyone else took Storr's offer yesterday. Mets visited but declined the trade

Claims so far: (Full list shown for easy editing later)

1.virus90
2.Streaker Myrddrall
3.WingcommanderGinkapo
4.mtamburini
5.madmitch
6.StorrZerg - Day Role Trader
7.Hotshot53
8.MarashuEgwene Al'Viere
9.GotTonkaed/Endgame v2.0 - Thom Merrilin, Night - Roleblocking Vig
10.Endgame422Elyas Machera
11.dd515087
12.Metsfanmax
13.Iron Butterfly - Moraine Sedai
14.Talapus - Nynaeve Al'Miera - Soft claiming some form of doc

[madmitch]

I think it is to early to make a mass claim? we already loss two guys,how many mafia are left?and why would anyone want to claim Rand right now because of the odds are that that person would be killed.as for me this is my day actions:Day 1 visited Storr traded for commuter, used on myself will explain later.Day 2 visited WCG nothing offered,Day 3 visited Virus, found nothing that could aid my journey.

[StorrZerg]

now did mafia stack on the end game kill

or did endgame 2.0 kill endgame 1.0 and mafia failed to kill.

[Metsfanmax]

Strictly on probabilistic terms, the likelihood of the latter is quite a bit higher than the likelihood of the former.

[Metsfanmax]

Of course, higher still is the likelihood that Endgame v2.0 kiled Endgame v1.0 and is also mafia

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

Mafia had no reason to kill Endgame v1.0 (except the long shot of someone else also seeing Mar's hint)

[virus90]

i am not dead cause what i do is trying to survive, dying really doesn't help much in trying to achieve that. so i took a little walk out of the village, quiet effectively apparently.
endgame possible serial killer? endlesly vig power, thats pretty much unseen and overpowered?

[Endgame422]

Of course, higher still is the likelihood that Endgame v2.0 kiled Endgame v1.0 and is also mafia

Aw come on mets.
If i were scum why claim my NK? The death of endgame 1.0 has done nothing but confuse town thus far i tried to shed some light there.
Why would i suggest using the night phase to hit whoever we agree is scummiest(essentially giving town a second lynch)?
Why would i oppose the mass claim?
Why am i trying to let the majority rule on the vig shots tonight?
Fpd by virus.
I cant speak to you guys thinking my role is overpowered.

[Metsfanmax]

Of course, higher still is the likelihood that Endgame v2.0 kiled Endgame v1.0 and is also mafia

Aw come on mets.
If i were scum why claim my NK? The death of endgame 1.0 has done nothing but confuse town thus far i tried to shed some light there.
Why would i suggest using the night phase to hit whoever we agree is scummiest(essentially giving town a second lynch)?
Why would i oppose the mass claim?
Why am i trying to let the majority rule on the vig shots tonight?

Well, all of those things may make sense in the context where GT was by far the likeliest lynch before being replaced. Perhaps you felt that you needed to go all in to avoid being lynched. Obviously there's a big chance that this hypothesis is wrong, but when are we ever certain in this game?

With that being said, at present I might be more happy with a Hotshot lynch than with an End 2.0 lynch.

[Endgame422]

VOTE MITCH
His last comment about mars seemed kinda scummy to me.
He seemed to be pushing virus to hammer,both by putting him at L-1 and his statement.

I agree with Virus, Mars is wasting time on voting GT. He is going to push all of us to the deadline unless we all get together and get rid of him!!!!

Possible virus/mitch scum pairing?
Thoughts on mitch from virus and vice-versa would be nice.
Also HS who are you interested in today? Both for the lynch and to be vigged tonight.
Same would be nice from everyone actually.

[madmitch]

WOW!!! What a lame reason to attack me.Well tit for tat VOTE ENDGAME

[Endgame422]

Ok OMGUS vote. Not unexpected.
What about virus mitch?
Is he scum or what?

[Iron Butterfly]

Of course, higher still is the likelihood that Endgame v2.0 kiled Endgame v1.0 and is also mafia

Aw come on mets.
If i were scum why claim my NK? The death of endgame 1.0 has done nothing but confuse town thus far i tried to shed some light there.
Why would i suggest using the night phase to hit whoever we agree is scummiest(essentially giving town a second lynch)?
Why would i oppose the mass claim?
Why am i trying to let the majority rule on the vig shots tonight?
Fpd by virus.
I cant speak to you guys thinking my role is overpowered.

I have a bad feeling that the shit is going to hit the fan.

I know my role,Storr,Endgames. Now Mets seems to think we have been on easy street, which to some extent is true but given the nature of what Storr does compounded by Endgames role, I am feeling either this game is over powered to Town or Mafia still needs to find its Mojo. This game seems to be based on a lot of luck in who finds who.

I would agree with Engame that there was no sense in being honest. Now I am not sure how far he has read but he could also have played the VT, who is not really a VT card.

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

Catching Streaker day 1 would mess with even the most balanced game.

End knows very well that if he had claimed VT that I at least would have pushed a lynch through.

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

Why is no-one discussing Virus' un NK'able claim?

[virus90]

i am not saying that im unkillable, but last night i was, cause i commuted.
cause let me spell it out, i am a survivor. to be exact.

Out of curiosity, why am I so popular?

it was the random generator for me day 1 that selected you , (thats out there already aswell)

Hey Storr.

Has it ever occurred to just shut up and let others speak? Frankly I am tired of logging on seeing a new comment from you. I can not force the issue obviously but we have people like Virus, Mtam...hell pretty much everyone outside of you,me Metz and Wing with Mitch chiming in from time to time offering nothing.

In fact we need a prod of inactives. It seems the majority are posting the bare minimum for the sake of posting.

im cant help but still being on talapus, to bad he doesnt get more presure in my opinion. but i kind of have given up about it, since my vote is trivialized anyway in this game. also i claimed actions already 2 or 3 times and people didnt seem to have read that since nobody filled it in on the schemes made day 2. also people visited wing day 2, but it was already made clear by me i didnt find anything day 1. every suggestion/post i have made so far has been neglected i feel. i give some reads on 3 people who i find scummy, nothing happens. people dont even say that i am wrong or they disagree. its all fine by me, it helps to get to the objective of surviving the game, since im not a threat to mafia this way, but it is kind of frustrating.

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

If you're third party survivor, gonna need a name claim to try and work out the flavour of that.

[virus90]

the green man,
hence the typo; also the post where i posted my day 1 action btw. but thats known already

FIRST!
Random.org sugested i had to jokevote nr 3; WingCmdr, must say that i excluded myself from the generater. maybe someone else can vote me for that. but we will see that in the ent.

as for my role, apparently people are seeking me, dont have a clue if thats just rishead having fun or if im a objective for someone...