Foundation Mafia [6/12] Endgame: Second Foundation Wins.

[degaston]

Fp'd by hotshot

And how are you going to ensure power roles don't get lynched today? Do you know who they are or something?

This is a strange statement. Whether he was town or mafia, he wouldn't know who the power roles were. Granted, his statement was a little strange, too, and there may be reasons to keep suspicion on him, but that statement makes me more suspicious of you than him.

[HotShot53]

Fp'd by hotshot

And how are you going to ensure power roles don't get lynched today? Do you know who they are or something?

This is a strange statement. Whether he was town or mafia, he wouldn't know who the power roles were. Granted, his statement was a little strange, too, and there may be reasons to keep suspicion on him, but that statement makes me more suspicious of you than him.

It was a rhetorical question... what I was meaning was that just like his "I am town" statement... it really doesn't mean anything, he can't ensure we don't lynch a power role any more than anyone else can.

[Metsfanmax]

Fp'd by hotshot

And how are you going to ensure power roles don't get lynched today? Do you know who they are or something?

This is a strange statement. Whether he was town or mafia, he wouldn't know who the power roles were. Granted, his statement was a little strange, too, and there may be reasons to keep suspicion on him, but that statement makes me more suspicious of you than him.

It was a rhetorical question... what I was meaning was that just like his "I am town" statement... it really doesn't mean anything, he can't ensure we don't lynch a power role any more than anyone else can.

He can if we lynch him and he flips VT

[dakky21]

I don't take your claim for serious, you're probably the best player around, so even degaston unvoted

I unvoted because I don't like to lynch the first person who gets targeted, not because I believed his claim or thought he was the best player here.

Tim hasn't full claimed yet, but I don't want to lynch a possible power role either. So between him and wing I'd go for wing. But I'd prefer to have another choice. I'll have to go back and reread more to see who else I might vote for.

Lies and more lies. Why did you vote him in the first place?
Are you afraid Wing might get lynched? Just asking... and why do you want a full Tim claim? If Wing flips mafia, you are probably mafia also, including Tim.

[degaston]

I don't take your claim for serious, you're probably the best player around, so even degaston unvoted

I unvoted because I don't like to lynch the first person who gets targeted, not because I believed his claim or thought he was the best player here.

Tim hasn't full claimed yet, but I don't want to lynch a possible power role either. So between him and wing I'd go for wing. But I'd prefer to have another choice. I'll have to go back and reread more to see who else I might vote for.

Lies and more lies. Why did you vote him in the first place?
Are you afraid Wing might get lynched? Just asking... and why do you want a full Tim claim? If Wing flips mafia, you are probably mafia also, including Tim.

What are you talking about? Where did I lie?
I stated my reason when I voted for him - you can look it up if you like.
I stated my reason when I unvoted. Yes, I am afraid of lynching him, if he's really VT - why aren't you?
I didn't ask or imply that I wanted a full Tim. Why are you lying about that?

[degaston]

EBWOP - full Tim claim.

[Endgame422]

Deg VT claim is the lowest risk lynch.
Worst case is we lose a VT,best case we hit scum.
Case on wing isn't great but his claim isn't great either.

[TimWoodbury]

Days are five days long, so deadline is tomorrow. Not enough time to muck about.

If I am town then that list is actual reads.
If I am mafia then that list is likely mafia.

Either you believe me, in which case vote Hotshot or Mets. Or if you dont believe me then vote for me.

So yes I intentionally put myself on that list.

Deadline is Monday.

Not sure what to make of Wing. I think he's just trying to spur the conversation most likely. I thought that was a mistake putting himself on the list (kinda like using the word 'mafia' instead of 'town' in a follow up post) but he claims its intentional. I guess more spurring of conversation. idk

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you are correc im not the doc all i said is im a potector never said what or who i protect.


Re: tim's claim. I don't think Tim's the doc the way he phrased his soft-claim but actually his comments might play out nicely for us. The mafia are now faced with trying to take out a protective power role but who is the least experienced in the game. And chances are Tim will get watched/protected, so he's probably safe for now.

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Hoping Daz speaks up soon. Having him and Mets so quiet with a deadline in 3 days is problematic. I have my vote on Mets, but I could very well pressure Daz for the same reason right now.

[TimWoodbury]

EBWOP - full Tim claim.

not shure what this means i guess i missed it in the mafia dictonary when i read before the game, but since people are asking about me making a full claim yes i am town

[TimWoodbury]

Ok in order to speed D1 up a bit I'll say this.

I am town. I think Streaker, Hotshot, Dazza and Mets are our mafia group for rather petty reasons. This can be used to narrow the field down somewhat. I feel strongest about Hotshot and Mets. That said I've been here before with Mets D1.

So lynch either Wing, Hotshot or Mets.

Go.

sorry was gone msot of today so jsut now reading through convo for today, im thinking wing was preaty fast to decide who was mafia though this could be as he is more exerianced then i and can better tell or read people then i but as people have said pressure is on him so i unvote vote wing. if we lynch wing and he turns town as he claims to be then i think we may want to give his reads of hotshot or mets a swing and see and hope they are mafia skum.

[strike wolf]

Vote count

Tim "Woody" bury
Streakier
Bent Wing (5)-Endgame, Aage, Metsfanmax, Hotshot, Dakky, Tim L-1
Madmitch: Fury Toad
Dakky Duck
End "I can't think of a nickname that amuses me" Game
Epiduraltaph (1)- Dazza
Degatron
BeDazzaed (2)-Streaker, Madmitch
Mets "We're actually winning for once" Fanmax (2)-Epitaph, Wing

With 12 alive it takes 7 to reach majority. Deadline is currently set for Monday at 12:15 am.

Let me know if I made any mistakes with the vote count.

[TimWoodbury]

Vote count

Tim "Woody" bury
Streakier
Bent Wing (5)-Endgame, Aage, Metsfanmax, Hotshot, Dakky, Tim L-1
Madmitch: Fury Toad
Dakky Duck
End "I can't think of a nickname that amuses me" Game
Epiduraltaph (1)- Dazza
Degatron (1) Tim
BeDazzaed (2)-Streaker, Madmitch
Mets "We're actually winning for once" Fanmax (2)-Epitaph, Wing

With 12 alive it takes 7 to reach majority. Deadline is currently set for Monday at 12:15 am.

Let me know if I made any mistakes with the vote count.

cool do i get a double vote lol heads up you got me down as a deg and wing vote my vote is on wing and not deg.

[strike wolf]

Vote count

Tim "Woody" bury
Streakier
Bent Wing (5)-Endgame, Aage, Metsfanmax, Hotshot, Dakky, Tim L-1
Madmitch: Fury Toad
Dakky Duck
End "I can't think of a nickname that amuses me" Game
Epiduraltaph (1)- Dazza
Degatron (1) Tim
BeDazzaed (2)-Streaker, Madmitch
Mets "We're actually winning for once" Fanmax (2)-Epitaph, Wing

With 12 alive it takes 7 to reach majority. Deadline is currently set for Monday at 12:15 am.

Let me know if I made any mistakes with the vote count.

cool do i get a double vote lol heads up you got me down as a deg and wing vote my vote is on wing and not deg.

Already corrected it.

[degaston]

EBWOP - full Tim claim.

not shure what this means i guess i missed it in the mafia dictonary when i read before the game, but since people are asking about me making a full claim yes i am town

Edit By Way Of Post.
You're not allowed to edit your posts, so you say ebwop it you need to make a correction.
In this case, I left out the word "claim" in my earlier post.

[degaston]

And to clarify, I was saying that I hadn't asked for a full claim from you. This is only my third game, but my understanding is that revealing your role when you are not at L-2 is not good. Even if you're telling the truth, it helps the scum more than the town.

[degaston]

Deg VT claim is the lowest risk lynch.
Worst case is we lose a VT,best case we hit scum.
Case on wing isn't great but his claim isn't great either.

You admit that the case against him isn't very good, but you and dakky don't seem very concerned that he may be just a VT. Maybe he's the best we can get on D1, but I think we should at least have a bit more activity before the deadline. There's no need for an early lynch.

[degaston]

Vote Dazza
For not contributing anything so far.

[aage]

Posting to say that even though I voted early on the case and haven't posted since it progressed, I'm happy for someone to hammer. Deg, why are you trying to steer towards a bad case?

[madmitch]

the HELL with it I didn,t want to vote because of Dakkys shit,but lets HAMMER this vote wing

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

I expected better of you Aage.

Tim my reads in themselves arent worth much. What you can look at now is the reasons why people voted for me or didnt vote for me. Seperate half the players into a town group, and the other half into a mafia group. Its time you all started making reads, rather than just taking the easy way out. You cannot directly say straight that those who voted me are mafia, as mafia know that I am town and may have stayed off the lynch to gain credibility too. Multiple ways to play this. Who seems confused? They are probably town. Who seems to be fabricating a reason to vote? They are probably town. Keep refining your list with every new bit of information.

D1 was going to be a complete waste because nobody was willing to give an opinion on anything. However, there is no plenty of information to look through. It may have cost me, but its benefited town as a whole.

fp'd Mitch your an idiot.

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

I do appreciate that you all think I am capable of setting myself up a fakeclaim in my first post of the game.

[aage]

I expected better of you Aage.

Tim my reads in themselves arent worth much. What you can look at now is the reasons why people voted for me or didnt vote for me. Seperate half the players into a town group, and the other half into a mafia group. Its time you all started making reads, rather than just taking the easy way out. You cannot directly say straight that those who voted me are mafia, as mafia know that I am town and may have stayed off the lynch to gain credibility too. Multiple ways to play this. Who seems confused? They are probably town. Who seems to be fabricating a reason to vote? They are probably mafia. Keep refining your list with every new bit of information.

D1 was going to be a complete waste because nobody was willing to give an opinion on anything. However, there is no plenty of information to look through. It may have cost me, but its benefited town as a whole.

fp'd Mitch your an idiot.

FTFY.
We'll see what your expectations are worth when you flip. If you flip mafia, Deg is certainly next on the block imo.

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

Aage I'm town. Start working from that. Dont waste your time worrying about if I am mafia.

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

Cheers for the fix.

[degaston]

Deg, why are you trying to steer towards a bad case?

I wasn't trying to steer towards a bad case. I was trying to get dazza to participate while there was still some time left. I don't know why town players would want to shut down the discussion early.