Foundation Mafia [6/12] Endgame: Second Foundation Wins.

[Endgame422]

I agree his amount of activity doesnt have much bearing on his alignment either way dakky.
But so far theres very little to suggest hes town.
All he has done is defend himself and vote mitch half-heartedly.
Admittedly theres not much to suggest hes scum other then the death of streaker but im in no hurry to lynch tim and im interested to see where dazza wants to go now and also epis read of dazza at this point.
Id rather noone be within hammer range just yet so im hesistant to join the tim wagon right now.
I think dakky is town but im not sure hes correct about tim.
Mitch immediately jumping on every wagon that appears is kind of worrisome and claiming doc after tim(sorta) did is seeming pretty suspect.
Care to divulge your characters names mitch and tim?
I know its just flavor but it wont hurt.

[TimWoodbury]

So here was dakky's reasoning for switching from Mitch to Tim... right after I pointed out that Mitch needed to full claim.

Dakky you claimming streak could of killed mets last night i can say for a fact he did not do. i had 1 night kill and used it with the fact that wing turned town as he claimed and checked if his theory of mets and hotshot was correct. in hindsight it was a really bad kill on my behalf and it was my only night kill. so now we have to figure out who killed streak

And I can say you're lying, because I know Streaker most probably killed Mets.
Streaker probably did wanted to kill another target, but he shot Mets because I am the Town Alternator, I switched his target to Mets.
Sorry Mets, my fault, it was based on Wing's readings.

Mitch claimed town, and so far he was honest. Of course it doesn't mean anything, but anyway,

unvote, vote Tim

I can't find a description for what a "town alternator" does, but assuming, for the moment, that you are telling the truth about your role, how do you know you weren't blocked? And even if you weren't blocked, but all you did was switch another target to Mets, that doesn't sound like it would prevent someone who actually targeted Mets from having an effect. And even if your action did block Tim, he wouldn't have known it, since Mets still died. That doesn't make his statement a lie. And why would he claim that he killed Mets if he had targeted someone else, or no one at all?

What, exactly, was Mitch honest about... other than being an idiot? (nothing personal, Mitch ) I find your timing to be very suspicious, and your reasoning, nonexistent.

And aage, a noob townie has every reason to claim out of the blue if no one has told them that they shouldn't. They know they're telling the truth, and have nothing to hide.

its okay deg they seem dead set on reading me as skum so guys vote me to die go for it lose another town i simply dont are anymore ive said time and time again yall simply overlooking over reading i dont know what but okay i give in yep lynch me lose anotehr town

[TimWoodbury]

I agree his amount of activity doesnt have much bearing on his alignment either way dakky.
But so far theres very little to suggest hes town.
All he has done is defend himself and vote mitch half-heartedly.
Admittedly theres not much to suggest hes scum other then the death of streaker but im in no hurry to lynch tim and im interested to see where dazza wants to go now and also epis read of dazza at this point.
Id rather noone be within hammer range just yet so im hesistant to join the tim wagon right now.
I think dakky is town but im not sure hes correct about tim.
Mitch immediately jumping on every wagon that appears is kind of worrisome and claiming doc after tim(sorta) did is seeming pretty suspect.
Care to divulge your characters names mitch and tim?
I know its just flavor but it wont hurt.

if i say my name you prolly wont bealive and and im shure dakky and aage wont bealive it either because deg already said it and i didnt think anything of the town name i origonally jsut read town skipped to description and abilitys. but like i said in the last post they are dead set on me being skm so go ahead and lynch me call it game i leave for the honeymoon at the end of the week anyways and at this point with everything ive said about my abilitys noone is gonna wanna sub in for me because they will die right off anyways so lets not waste any more time lets all vote to lynch me end the day lose another townie

[Endgame422]

So your claiming magnifico?

[TimWoodbury]

So your claiming magnifico?

not a clue what magnifico is

[TimWoodbury]

jut did google search i guess i am as the town role said town joat though like i said aage and dakky wont bealive me as they are dead set on lynching me so let em then they can feel as smart as i did when i shot the cop.

[Endgame422]

Magnifico is the only name that deg mentioned that i recall.
Please just say your name. Aage and dakky cant lynch you without support so make an effort to convince me and the rest of us who you are and you could certainly live out the day.
Giving up does noone any favors.

[aage]

Feeling sorry for yourself isn't gonna make me unvote Tim. Practically evryone is asking for information and you're not giving any. Dont google for your role just tell us what your pm said. The longer you wait the less likely it is that I will believe you. Right now it looks like you are just stalling.

[TimWoodbury]

Feeling sorry for yourself isn't gonna make me unvote Tim. Practically evryone is asking for information and you're not giving any. Dont google for your role just tell us what your pm said. The longer you wait the less likely it is that I will believe you. Right now it looks like you are just stalling.

deg was the one that mentioned jato or was it aage,

First Foundationer-Town Joat
1 shot kill 2 shot role block. And 1 shot doc protect

the kill was used last night.

i wasnt google my role i was google magnifico or whatever was said above

[strike wolf]

Don't have time for a vote count right now but want to make sure everyone is aware that there is a secret vote applied to Tim right now.

[TimWoodbury]

Unofficial vote count:
tim (3): mitch, aage, dakky
dakky (2): hotshot, degaston
mitch (1): dazza

Let's put it this way: if Tim flips mafia, degaston & hotshot are mafia also.
If Tim flips town, mitch & aage are probably mafia and I did a wrong read on Tim.
Dazza vote on mitch without any reasoning still stands since the beginning of D2.
Endgame & epi didn't vote for anyone yet D2, and they both targeted town D1.

so mich uvoted me made it 2, with the secreat vote wolf mentioned its back to 3 me 2 dakky.
im going to vote dakky

so its either me or dakky im really thinking dakky and age are mafia skum

[TimWoodbury]

looking at the votes there are 3 to not vote so far

5. Endgame
12. Epitaph

so as it stands

new unnoficial vote
Tim (3) aage,Dakky,secret vote
Dakky 3(hotshot,deg,tim
Mitch (1)dazza
dazza (1) mitch)

leaves to vote
5. Endgame
12. Epitaph

we know 1 of them is the secret vote against me

im curious dose anyone ahve a double vote role??

[HotShot53]

Feeling sorry for yourself isn't gonna make me unvote Tim. Practically evryone is asking for information and you're not giving any. Dont google for your role just tell us what your pm said. The longer you wait the less likely it is that I will believe you. Right now it looks like you are just stalling.

deg was the one that mentioned jato or was it aage,

First Foundationer-Town Joat
1 shot kill 2 shot role block. And 1 shot doc protect

the kill was used last night.

i wasnt google my role i was google magnifico or whatever was said above

So you are claiming the same name as Wing? Yeah, that is a little hard to believe... although I guess technically there could be more than one "First Foundationer" since it's not an actual name? Or is it referring to a specific person which would make Tim scum? (It's been tooooo long since I read a Foundation book, I don't really remember much of the flavor...)

[aage]

Secret vote isn't mine, Dakky claimed a different role. Gotta assume it's a scum power then. Not sure if I want to respond to a scum signal and unvote, could be a red herring.

If anyone wants to claim politician now I may still believe them, using a power but not backing it publicly doesnt seem town to me at all.

[TimWoodbury]

Secret vote isn't mine, Dakky claimed a different role. Gotta assume it's a scum power then. Not sure if I want to respond to a scum signal and unvote, could be a red herring.

If anyone wants to claim politician now I may still believe them, using a power but not backing it publicly doesnt seem town to me at all.

sp useing sereat power and not saying so is skum but yet when i claimed the mets kill without knowing that it may not have even been my attempt that killed mets its also skum? if mets had turned skum and i claimed it would you or dakky even be making a case of me beig skum after i claimed it??

[Endgame422]

"Never let your sense of morals prevent you from doing what is right."
UNVOTE VOTE TIM
I am the doublevoter.
I was just seeing if aage might jump the opportunity to force a counter claim.
Tim claiming first foundationer is enough for me,i might have believed it if he was also a VT but his role definetly has a name.
Mine surely does,Salvor Hardin-Town mayor

[TimWoodbury]

"Never let your sense of morals prevent you from doing what is right."
UNVOTE VOTE TIM
I am the doublevoter.
I was just seeing if aage might jump the opportunity to force a counter claim.
Tim claiming first foundationer is enough for me,i might have believed it if he was also a VT but his role definetly has a name.
Mine surely does,Salvor Hardin-Town mayor

since im gonna die anyays how much more plain can i say this

http://prntscr.com/88w338

[TimWoodbury]

ps dse that now put me at 4 or dose it put me at 5?? either way yall gonna feel real stupid when you lose another town member will be 3 townies down puts this game massivly in favor of mafia great job gonna give dakky aage the win

[dazza2008]

Unofficial vote count:
tim (3): mitch, aage, dakky
dakky (2): hotshot, degaston
mitch (1): dazza

Let's put it this way: if Tim flips mafia, degaston & hotshot are mafia also.
If Tim flips town, mitch & aage are probably mafia and I did a wrong read on Tim.
Dazza vote on mitch without any reasoning still stands since the beginning of D2.
Endgame & epi didn't vote for anyone yet D2, and they both targeted town D1.

I gave my reasons in a previous post though or did you not read that?

[dazza2008]

I believe Tim and people jumping all over him for his name claim makes me a bit suspicious of them to be honest.

unvote

Really late here and I got in late so just read through quick. Hoping to post more tomorrow night if I get home earlier.

[degaston]

Okay epitaph, you've been kind of quiet. I'd like to know where you stand on this.

I'll be out of internet access most of this "day" (7:00 am here).

[dakky21]

since im gonna die anyays how much more plain can i say this

http://prntscr.com/88w338

You said you know you cant quote the mail message, but you instead put a screenshot of it.

I now believe you are town, but if that picture is original, you deserve at least a warning, if not modkill. You already edited one of your posts and I warned you about it. I kept silent because it was an edit of a single letter, but those who don't read the rules are breaking the rules, and this screenshot was too much. I don't care if I win or not, but you're taking the game a level down. Vote stays. Hopefully you don't get modkilled.

[TimWoodbury]

since im gonna die anyays how much more plain can i say this

http://prntscr.com/88w338

You said you know you cant quote the mail message, but you instead put a screenshot of it.

I now believe you are town, but if that picture is original, you deserve at least a warning, if not modkill. You already edited one of your posts and I warned you about it. I kept silent because it was an edit of a single letter, but those who don't read the rules are breaking the rules, and this screenshot was too much. I don't care if I win or not, but you're taking the game a level down. Vote stays. Hopefully you don't get modkilled.

im gonna die either way so if i mod kill so be it if im lynched so be it... only way to show what i said was truth was to show it as even jsut saying what it was wasnt enough for aage so oh well like i said its whatever

[Endgame422]

No,waiting for yourself to die and letting the moderator show your role is what most of us do.
If you are town and didnt doctor that shot(you easily could have given that strike made colors common knowledge) you really have gone against the spirit of play here in my opinion.
My votes stay as well.

[HotShot53]

since im gonna die anyays how much more plain can i say this

http://prntscr.com/88w338

You said you know you cant quote the mail message, but you instead put a screenshot of it.

I now believe you are town, but if that picture is original, you deserve at least a warning, if not modkill. You already edited one of your posts and I warned you about it. I kept silent because it was an edit of a single letter, but those who don't read the rules are breaking the rules, and this screenshot was too much. I don't care if I win or not, but you're taking the game a level down. Vote stays. Hopefully you don't get modkilled.

im gonna die either way so if i mod kill so be it if im lynched so be it... only way to show what i said was truth was to show it as even jsut saying what it was wasnt enough for aage so oh well like i said its whatever

The whole point of mafia is to convince people you are who you say you are, without any "proof" of any kind. If it was a real-life game of mafia, there is no role PM's or other stuff you can quote, all you get is your role, and you can't show people the piece of paper it's on... so if that is a real screen shot, that is definitely breaking the rules. People aren't always going to believe you, even if you are town... scum knows you are telling the truth, but they want to lynch you anyway, and town never knows for sure, so some of them might lynch you too. You can't take it personally, it's all a game, sometimes you win, sometimes you lose.

Unfortunately, you have now put us in the position of "if that is a real screenshot, mod should kill him... if he doesn't get mod killed, then we know he's lying and should be lynched".