Streaker's F11 Game Over (4/9) MAFIA WIN (archive plz)

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Re: Streaker's F11 Game Over (4/9) MAFIA WIN

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Good work, scum. And thanks for hosting this, Streaker. =D> =D> =D>

After I re-read through D1, I thought to myself, "If ptolwe is scum, we're screwed." He came across pretty town in D1 with how he was willing to push things, but not get out of hand. Then he really went quiet and scummarined after that but claimed traveling and blah blah. I just couldn't see him making it to the top of our suspect list anytime soon.

The mafia handled Tim very well, and that was quite a gambit to leave him alive N1. If I would have been scum in this set up and someone softclaimed PR, I would have NK'd him in an instant. That said, I haven't read your QT yet to see how you guys thought through that scenario.

I thought risky was scum early but came around to him on D3. He was really hitting his stride by then. mitch I still had no idea about, which is pretty much every game I'm in with him :lol: . I was probably going push skw but hadn't made up my mind 100% on him either.

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I was legit quiet the last few days timed out well for me. I changed jobs and moved 3000 miles....so wasnt lieing missedw bunch of turns as well.
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3000 miles? Did you change coasts?
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Epitaph1 wrote:3000 miles? Did you change coasts?
San francisco to boston. Moved last weekend started monday my life is nuts lol atm
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You'll have to grab some steamahs or some lobstah down by the harbah now that you're in bean town.
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I don't understand why Mitch voted so quick we had ages to go lol.. I had suspicions on those 2 early but then with the whole tim thing I thought maybe Tim is bluffing and pt is the cop because he was so sure of epi.. Then once it was revealed that it wasnt pt and they both came out firing and then epi saying he thought I was town ( he would have pushed for me too if he was scum) I thought we might get it.. Came on to start making points and it was too late lol

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Its part of Mitch's play style. Votes like a gunslinger, fast and carefree shooting from the hip. If you're ever mafia dont nightkill Mitch :D

That said, Mitch has come a long way, and I firmly believe that he knows more than he lets on in thread.

SKW told you all that the real cop shouldnt counter claim. You really all needed to think through the logic of that. A cop with one night result shouldnt give up their life to nail a scum whilst revealing a confirmed townie by investigation?
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Good point. That was a genuine question from my side and since no one argued about what Subtle said, I believed it. On the other hand, I also thought that if the cop would have something interesting to say, they would come forward themselves.
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WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:Its part of Mitch's play style. Votes like a gunslinger, fast and carefree shooting from the hip. If you're ever mafia dont nightkill Mitch :D

That said, Mitch has come a long way, and I firmly believe that he knows more than he lets on in thread.

SKW told you all that the real cop shouldnt counter claim. You really all needed to think through the logic of that. A cop with one night result shouldnt give up their life to nail a scum whilst revealing a confirmed townie by investigation?
To be fair I was thinking like a townie when I said that. I specified that a cop shouldn't counterclaim unless it was absolutely necessary. Usually a cop should only claim when it's getting at or close to lylo.
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subtleknifewield wrote:
WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:Its part of Mitch's play style. Votes like a gunslinger, fast and carefree shooting from the hip. If you're ever mafia dont nightkill Mitch :D

That said, Mitch has come a long way, and I firmly believe that he knows more than he lets on in thread.

SKW told you all that the real cop shouldnt counter claim. You really all needed to think through the logic of that. A cop with one night result shouldnt give up their life to nail a scum whilst revealing a confirmed townie by investigation?
To be fair I was thinking like a townie when I said that. I specified that a cop shouldn't counterclaim unless it was absolutely necessary. Usually a cop should only claim when it's getting at or close to lylo.
Thinking like a townie without the confusion of a townie! Bit more empathy required next time.
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II'm sorry, what does empathy have to do with this discussion? That is honestly what I believe to be townie advice.
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Re: Streaker's F11 Game Over (4/9) MAFIA WIN

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-Madmitch
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Mitch, you are showing signs of improving. However, you need to work on a few things, most of all: PATIENCE. Waiting a couple days longer instead of hammering in the end, could have won the game for town. You were so eager to vote and completely spoil any chance town might have. Epi said he was going to analyze everyone again, and deadline was ages away. No reason to end the game on a coinflip. To end on a positive note, you had a few posts with very good analysis in them. Keep it up!
-bosaardbeitje
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First game in mafia, though you wouldn't say that actually. Being the 'bulldog' this game, you were very active and driving in the conversation. Made a few errors in logic, all in all very very good for a first game. Try to look at everyone when analyzing.
-subtleknifewield
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Mafia 1, played a good game though town enabled you guys to have a LOT of room. Do not attempt to lynch a claimed cop with the same eagerness in a more experienced game, you WILL get lynched for it. Still, you pulled off a very nice win here.
-ptlowe
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Mafia 2, played a solid game as well. There is no reason to let a claimed power role live, especially if you know there is no doc. It worked out very well in your favour, but it's a risk you should not take in another game.
-wcwnww, replaced by Razorvich
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Inactive, failed to reply to any prod, replaced by Raz who was thanked for replacing by getting insta killed :D Thanks for the effort, Raz!
-Epitaph1
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As one of the most experienced players this game, it was so fun seeing him struggle with the fact that a claimed cop managed to survive the night :lol: It's not easy reading 'new' players, and mafia did play quite well. I think he would have figured out the correct lynch if mitch allowed him. Kinda strange that Epi was so strongly believing in a scum Tim.
-Aage
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Got taken out quite early, I'm still figuring out why. I don't understand the case on him, and neither does he :? A casualty of a newbie game, let's call it.
-rizky_biznezz
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Took a few days to get the hang of it, but it's not easy getting in there and playing for the first time. Managed to really play very well and put out a few solid reads later in the game. You need to have a bit more confidence, and experience.
-TimWoodbury
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Tim. Tim Tim Tim Tim Tim. I am going to be honest with you: town probably lost because of your claim. In games like these, there is no point in claiming where you did. If you have the information to share then go ahead. But I noticed you do this in other games as well. It's really really really bad for you and your team in 99% of the case. The 1% is you being a jester. Please try and learn from this, having such a strong power doesn't mean you have to spear the assault, it means you disclose the information at the right time. You allowed mafia to be able and afford not killing you at night. You saw what happened when you claimed bos as town. Credibility is very important. As pointed out in this thread, deception is the name of the game. That said, I hope you learned from this game and carry on in the other games. I enjoyed watching you squirm :D
In general, this game is about more then reading other players as scum. You need to be able and read town play as well, and manage to convince others of your opinion.
This was a very, very good 'noob' game, and an incredible level of activity. I enjoyed hosting it very much, and I hope you guys all stick around and play the other games.

If anyone of you has any questions, pm any of us.
If anyone wants to give a better analysis of play of everyone, please do so. I'd be eager to see what everyone thought.
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Re: Streaker's F11 Game Over (4/9) MAFIA WIN (archive plz)

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Thanks for hosting and for the feedback Streaker! Everyone else thanks for playing. Couldn't have wished for a nicer, funnier, crazier first game!

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