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My communication skills aren't any better than most people, you had the opportunity to read all the information provided by dakky that was needed to draw the conclusion that we'd better off lynching non confirmed scum, and yet you didn't until everyone started saying it's a good idea, you have to admit that it doesn't look good on your resume. I agree that the quiet people really should be considered suspect but since we're at this time of the year I think there are reasons why many are busy (Christmas and family and what not.) Not saying that it makes it okay but I'm less suspicious than I otehrwise would've been. I think it's good streaker has been replaced.Ragian wrote:Excuse me for not understanding. I need to question everything in order to play this game. If I hadn't, I wouldn't have understood what dakky was saying. That you. Belly, understood it before I did only speaks for your communication skills, it does not speak against my alignment. It's strange how one who participates and questions is worse off than others who do not.
Now, as dakky, said, I'm perfectly aware of the fact that we'll lose if scum get to orchestrate their kills. What strikes me as problematic is that we can't tell who the second of either faction is. Well, we can guess and take a chance and all that, but that doesn't give us scum no matter how stupid you find the other players.
What you propose is to hit the second person of one of the factions. Obviously, I can get with that, but it annoys me that you would only consider whoever is talking (it seems). Also, you seem to put an awful lot of confidence in confirmed anti-town's words. Why is that?
That is ridiculous, are you sure you've been reading up on this thread? First off you'll get no deal with either faction, one of them will win if they both go for town for two nights in a row, they've already made a deal, a deal that is much better to hem than the one you are offering. Secondly why should we kill a confirmed antitown today when what we need is to take out a whole faction? And not merely scum. If we kill epi or LSU today, the only way that can be beneficial to town is if that players partner is revealed in the following nights investigation, an investigation that we have no control over and is unlikely to give us what we need.WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:Hiya Gang!
Now look here, Dakky is partially right, but the logic is still ridiculous. The issue we have right now is that the two anti-town parties are working together much more effectively than we are. Epi doesnt win if we team up with LSU against him. So screw Epi, hes played well but his game is over NOW.
LSU I offer you a parley on behalf of town. You say that you are the oracle and can undertake investigations. Can you please kill Mitch tonight and investigate Dakky please. (I havent put it past Epi to be so blatant with wifom). In return we will not lynch you today or tomorrow. As you are well aware we have no night powers to play tricks on this bargain.
Are you in? This allows you and your partner a shot at the end game, its win win.
Lynching someone who is not 100% confirmed non-town IS NOT going to help us. We lynch one of Epi or LSU today. No ifs no buts.
I totally agree, if they kill 2 townies tonight and tomorrow, it's their win, and that deal is much better than Wing's plan... And imagine LSU accepts Wing's proposal and then investigate someone (me?) and lies about me being Epi's partner. Town lynch me (or any other town) and mafia wins 100% sure. Starting to think Wing/Streaker is LSU's partner and what I already said, mitch being Epi's partner.MrBellyBangBang wrote:That is ridiculous, are you sure you've been reading up on this thread? First off you'll get no deal with either faction, one of them will win if they both go for town for two nights in a row, they've already made a deal, a deal that is much better to hem than the one you are offering. Secondly why should we kill a confirmed antitown today when what we need is to take out a whole faction? And not merely scum. If we kill epi or LSU today, the only way that can be beneficial to town is if that players partner is revealed in the following nights investigation, an investigation that we have no control over and is unlikely to give us what we need.WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote: Are you in? This allows you and your partner a shot at the end game, its win win.
Lynching someone who is not 100% confirmed non-town IS NOT going to help us. We lynch one of Epi or LSU today. No ifs no buts.
1) lsu investigates town and gives results to his partner which then says he got a investigation results with <insert town here> being scum... that's a death sentence but lynching town D3 is a win win for them.Ragian wrote:1) how can lsu lie about the investigation?
2) how is lynching someone who might be antitown better than lynching confirmed antitown?
1: By sending the results to his teamate and then have his teammate lie about it, that would give his teammate away but not before screwing town over completely, I doubt that will happen as neither faction wants to lose.Ragian wrote:1) how can lsu lie about the investigation?
2) how is lynching someone who might be antitown better than lynching confirmed antitown?
StorrZerg wrote: i find no joy in this
WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:Now I have your attention its time to make Epi and LSU beg for our mercy. I have suggested that we side with LSU because of previous comments he has made to bargain with us, but lets not forget our other option.
The ball is in our court, not theirs, time to play.
I find it odd that no one is discussing my choices. Madmitch and Dakky stand out to me. Do I take your silence to be agreement with these choices?
Actually, Seer knows the Goon and Oracle knows the werewolf. You'd know that if you just read the OP.madmitch wrote:@ Dakky how can you be so sure two townys will get killed at night ? neither the oracle or seer know who their partner are.
Stop bullshit right there. They know and you know it because you're one of them.madmitch wrote:They might think they know but who can really know.
Yes, go ahead with the OMGUS vote. I'm not voting any of the two mentioned. You can either trust me and lynch someone from the group (including you, yeah, thats funny) or not trust me and go for the secure scum kill. Either way we're most probably dead, but good luck anyway.madmitch wrote:@ Dakky out of the two mentioned who do you want to hang ( not me asshole) either Epic or LSU , if neither than we should look at you for being scum!!
Really, OMGUS now. You have no problem changing your vote but you're waiting for a wagon to happen so you can stick to it? As you would say, MAN UP and vote someone who is not on a wagon! No? OMGUS !madmitch wrote:@ WCG who do you want Lsu or Epic ? come on guys quit stalling and pick ,lets see what happens, I have no problem changing my vote, so get the lead out. I have not posted much because I am reading the same old bullshit but when you guys are accusing me enough is enough so man up and put on your big girl panties and vote one of these scum out
How is this not true if we don't lynch the confirmed scum? How will we somehow, magically, get both in one lynch? I understand that it would be preferable to eliminate one faction ASAP, but our chances don't increase by guessing today. they increase by having another set of investigations.dakky21 wrote:Voting a confirmed scum today will lead to 2 town kills tonight... tomorrow another 2 town kills because scum will agree on who to kill even if it is two factions.
