[INTERMEDIATE]Enemy of My Enemy - Archive please

[dakky21]

If it gets to 1v1v1 it's over for town, but town will have to decide which scum faction will win. Already see another modkill.
If it gets to 2v2 it's also game over for town, so lynching anyone other than Epi today is a town suicide.
If it gets to 2v1,1 one town night kill and it's over for town.

As I said, unless tonight they hit each other, town will lose.

Of course, we could try to hit Epi's partner today and hope Epi would NK the werewolf, but that would be Epi's suicide.

vote Epi

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

If it gets to 1v1v1 it's over for town, but town will have to decide which scum faction will win. Already see another modkill.

To help this one out. I pledge that if I am the town in this situation the Werewolf should reveal themselves as I will side with them against the Mafia. This should help get the nightkill we need.

[HotShot53]

I agree lynching epi is the only way town has a chance here. I'll vote for him when we're done discussing and ready for a lynch since he's already at L-2. I'm glad I was investigated instead of being killed lol. Did anyone get the other investigation?

Well, the final werewolf went rogue on us. We had an agreement that would have given him an equal opportunity to make it to the endgame but he didn't kill tambo like me and LSU had agreed upon. That would have actually been better for the town now that we see tambo got modkilled.

I know the last werewolf.

Who is it, and how do you know?

[Ragian]

My head still hurts from New Years. Also, I have birthday today so I won't be on much.

Can't we make a deal with epi to tell us who the last werewolf is, though?

[Ragian]

Also, we need to werewolf investigation? Unless the werewolf never investigated anyone. Or one of the dead townies received the result.

[Ragian]

Only Tim who hasn't checked in, yet, no?

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

Where art thou Tim of Shire Woodbury?

[Epitaph1]

I agree lynching epi is the only way town has a chance here. I'll vote for him when we're done discussing and ready for a lynch since he's already at L-2. I'm glad I was investigated instead of being killed lol. Did anyone get the other investigation?

Well, the final werewolf went rogue on us. We had an agreement that would have given him an equal opportunity to make it to the endgame but he didn't kill tambo like me and LSU had agreed upon. That would have actually been better for the town now that we see tambo got modkilled.

I know the last werewolf.

Who is it, and how do you know?

Process of elimination. My partner knows who it is too because we had it narrowed down to 2 people last night. Here's the problem though, he already went rogue by not honoring the agreement LSU and I made. So, we can either lynch him now or my partner kills him tonight.

The only alternative is the original plan where we both agree on our kills and actually carry them out this time. That would bring us back to a 2v1v1 situation tomorrow and give the werewolves a chance to win.

[dakky21]

@ Epi... as I said before... unless your partner kills the other werewolf and unless the other werewolf kills your partner, it's over for town, whatever we do.

So I'm staying at a vote on you, and you hope that above thing doesn't happen. Read the top post on this page of the thread.

[dakky21]

It's currently 3 (town) vs 2 (scum) vs 1 (scum)

If we lynch you, it will be 3v1v1. (same as if we lynch your so-called partner)

Now:

a) If there are two town kills, scum wins for sure: 1v1v1
b) If there is one town kill and one scum kill it ends: 2v1v1
c) if you hit them and they hit you... it ends 2v0 = town win

If it gets to 1v1v1 it's over for town, but town will have to decide which scum faction will win. Already see another modkill.
If it gets to 2v2 it's also game over for town, so lynching anyone other than Epi today is a town suicide.
If it gets to 2v1,1 one town night kill and it's over for town.

The only way town can win now is if Werewolves hits Mafia tonight AND Mafia targets Werewolves. Again and again. No other option.

Say you know who is the other werewolf... and let's say you're correct. We lynch the other Werewolf, it ends 3v2. You NK town and it's 2v2 which can't be won anymore because we won't have the majority of votes. GG TOWN.

I don't see the purpose of playing this anymore unless they kill each other (but then it's a win for us)... My vote is cast and my case is set. If you can debate it, I'll be more than happy to read it.

[dakky21]

EBWOP

messed up the calculations up there, not all, lynching the other werewolf (if Epi is correct) is town loss in 3v2 because of the NK on town
what is messed :
we lynch Epi or his partner
Epi or his partner shoot werewolf
werewolf shoots town
it ends in 2v1

and we have a LYLO... but that's the only other possible way...

[HotShot53]

Actually, if we lynch epi, and then they shoot 2 town, and it's down to 1 vs 1 vs 1... whoever is the last town must vote "NO LYNCH" at that point... if the other scum decide to lynch the town, they will then shoot each other, and everyone is dead, so it's all a tie lol. If they decline to lynch him, and go into night and shoot each other, then town wins... if one of them shoots town, then that person looses; if they both shoot town then again they have to shoot each other. Or would they share the win and just town looses in that case of just 1 of each faction left?

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

They would share the win which is why I was staying quiet about that one. A single no lynch vote wont achieve anything.

[Marashu]

DAILY VOTE COUNT
Epi: Wing, dakky (L-2)
Not voting: HotShot, TimWoodbury, Ragian, Epi
Deadline is Friday, January 8, 0600CCT. With 6 alive, it takes 4 votes to lynch.

[Ragian]

But, according to epi, they are not on the same page which is good for us. Surely, epi's team doesn't trust the remaining werewolf so they have to kill him lest he kills off them (and vice versa).

I still think Tim should give his say. I know we have till Friday, but perhaps a prod is in order?

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

But, according to epi, they are not on the same page which is good for us. Surely, epi's team doesn't trust the remaining werewolf so they have to kill him lest he kills off them (and vice versa).

I still think Tim should give his say. I know we have till Friday, but perhaps a prod is in order?

In a 1v1v1 lynching town gives both anti town parties victory, trust is irrelevant at that point.

[Ragian]

Yes, I understand that, but according to epi, the werewolf left went rogue on them. That means that they can't trust him. That means that they must kill him off tonight fearing that he might kill them off.

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

Yes, I understand that, but according to epi, the werewolf left went rogue on them. That means that they can't trust him. That means that they must kill him off tonight fearing that he might kill them off.

Ah I see what your saying, agreed which is our last hope really

[Marashu]

TimWoodbury has been prodded

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

TimWoodbury has been prodded

If tim gets modkilled, then its goodnight vienna

[Epitaph1]

Modkill!
Modkill!
Modkill!

[Ragian]

vote epi

Who's not voting, eh?

[Ragian]

at hotshot. Found epi's partner, I guess. Nice trick of him to vote epi yesterday.

[HotShot53]

at hotshot. Found epi's partner, I guess. Nice trick of him to vote epi yesterday.

Lol... I'm not the only one not voting to end the day yet. Until just now, you hadn't been voting him either. As I said at the beginning of the day, epi is the only possible lynch today, but I wasn't going to vote right away to give us time to talk first. The deadline isn't until Friday, so I'll vote to hammer him tomorrow (unless tim shows up and does the honor of hammering first lol).

[Ragian]

I know. I was hoping you would confess though

Come on, Tim!! I'll teach you how to spell!!