[SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia - Over - Mafia Wins - MVP Aladdin

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

My first post in the game is below:

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HIYA GANG!

The person is ANTI TOWN. I do not believe mafia.

Why should town kill Hotshot? IB is claiming that Hotshot is some form of 3rd party killer. If this is the case then Mafia can kill him. There is nothing in that role that makes him more dangerous to town than mafia, so I couldnt give a crap until numbers drop.

Honestly if rather not lynch either ib or hotshot since I believe neither will result in a anti town kill

You just went up on my scum-0-meter.

While my role makes me seem an island unto myself I would NOT be surprised that there would be other roles created to counter my "job". In fact I am fairly certain that is the case.

Something to keep in mind.

Until you make an effort to help town, rather than your own person wincon, I will not be voting for you or hotshot.

It might be ok. It will end with a score of people with little or no actual input on who they think is town or mafia. I'm not ok with this.

Amen Brother.

Now how about we actually look for mafia? Oh right yeah that would be a good idea!

So first up we have Aladdin. Acting dubious by voting the mod, (early scum tell) and then does something extremelly suspect. Accepts IB's case immediately without questioning and deduces a lot of additional information about it. Now lets look at this, an INEXPERIENCED player can understand IB's hints easier than both Storr and Mets.... Its almost like he had helpful information.

My conclusion is that Aladdin is mafia and got over excited by the idea of a non-mafia lynch led by a non-mafia player. I'm convinced at this point that Hotshot is 3rd party of some form, and that IB is not mafia.

So Vote Aladdin.

Next up we have a player who has been dubiously inactive, claiming there is nothing to talk about.... An odd claim in a game where IB has joined Storr in stirring the pot.

ok, aladin you have really rubbed me up the wrong way.

you are clearly scum as a townie would not commit murder the way you have done.....therefore unvote vote aladin

oh and before you ask who has been murdered, the victim is the english language.

don't think i can stand more than 2 weeks of this torture.

How does everyone read this post? Firstly it has a spelling mistake in the first line, lacks capitalisation and punctuation in multiple places, yet claims to care about the english language. Secondly, it discusses an issue than has been repeatedly discussed and concluded not to be Aladdins fault.

Conclusion: Its a fabricated reason to get an early vote on a mafia partner so later can claim disassociation if the other should be lynched. A common inexperienced player mistake. This is backed up by all the reasons that PT and Sausage are raising.

Rish, Player and Benga. I am watching you three carefully.

Sorry IB but we've never seen eye to eye about how to treat third parties.

hehe

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

Town

PTLowe

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Welcome, ptlowe, you are a Town Cop.
Abilities:
Each night phase, you may investigate one player in the game by PM'ing the mod. You will get results back in the form of Town, Antitown or No Result.
Win condition:
You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated and there is at least one town player alive.

Marashu

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Welcome, Marashu, you are a Town Cop.
Abilities:
Each night phase, you may investigate one player in the game by PM'ing the mod. You will get results back in the form of Town, Antitown or No Result.
Win condition:
You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated and there is at least one town player alive.

Benga

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Welcome, benga, you are a Town Retired Cop.
Abilities:
Only twice during the game (at any time), you may investigate one player in the game by PM'ing the mod. You will get results back in the form of Town, Antitown or No Result.
Win condition:
You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated and there is at least one town player alive.

Ragian

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Welcome, Ragian, you are a Town Inventor.
Abilities:
Each night phase, you may invent 1 item and send it to a person of your choosing. This player will be allowed to use your invention at any time during the game. Together with your invention, you PM the Mods with a description of the action your item does.
Mods will not allow you to invent 'killer' items, and we reserve the right to VETO any invention we find gamebreaking. We do support the very creative use of this role, so enjoy ^^
Win condition:
You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated and there is at least one town player alive.

LSU Tiger Josh

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Welcome, LSU Tiger Josh, you are a Town Inventor.
Abilities:
Each night phase, you may invent 1 item and send it to a person of your choosing. This player will be allowed to use your invention at any time during the game. Together with your invention, you PM the Mods with a description of the action your item does.
Mods will not allow you to invent 'killer' items, and we reserve the right to VETO any invention we find gamebreaking. We do support the very creative use of this role, so enjoy ^^
Win condition:
You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated and there is at least one town player alive.

Skoffin

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Welcome, Skoffin, you are a Town Doctor.
Abilities:
Each night phase, you may attempt to protect one player in the game from being nightkilled.
Win condition:
You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated.

TimWoodbury

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Welcome, TimWoodbury, you are the Town CPR Doctor.
Abilities:
Each night phase, you may attempt to protect one player in the game from being nightkilled. If that person is targetted for a kill, you will save him. However, is that person is not targetted for a kill, you will kill your intended target.
Win condition:
You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated.

Mtam

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Welcome, mtamburini, you are a Town Flying Pumpkin That Shoots Lasers Out Of It's Ass (FPTSLOOIA).
Abilities:
You are 25% chance of Bulletproof, and a 75% chance of vig.
Win condition:
You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated.

Catchers

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Welcome, CatchersMitt14, you are the Town Turperbuoco.
Abilities:
You are compelled to misspell at least a couple words in every post.
Here is an example: 'Turberculose' you can misspell as 'Turperbuoco'. Enjoy and make us proud!
Win condition:
You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated.

IronButterfly

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Welcome, Iron Butterfly, you are the Town 'Insane Asylum' Guard.
Abilities:
There has been an escape from your Facility. You must get lynched or killed before he does too much damage in the outside world. You may NOT reveal his role or identity, rather use deception and ninja skills to force a lynch or kill on him.
Win condition:
You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated, AND your target is dead when the game ends.

TheChuck

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Welcome, thechuck51, you are a Vanilla Townie.
Abilities:
You have a vote, use it wisely.
Win condition:
You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated.

Virus90

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Welcome, virus90, you are a Vanilla Townie.
Abilities:
You have a vote, use it wisely.
Win condition:
You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated.

DJPatrick

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Welcome, DJPatrick, you are a Vanilla Townie.
Abilities:
You have a vote, use it wisely.
Win condition:
You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated.

Falko

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Welcome, Falkomagno, you are a Vanilla Townie.
Abilities:
You have a vote, use it wisely.
Win condition:
You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated.

Degaston

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Welcome, degaston, you are a Vanilla Townie.
Abilities:
You have a vote, use it wisely.
Win condition:
You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated.

Rizky

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Welcome, rizky_biznezz, you are a Vanilla Townie.
Abilities:
You have a vote, use it wisely.
Win condition:
You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated.

Warrior65

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Welcome, the warrior65, you are a Vanilla Townie.
Abilities:
You have a vote, use it wisely.
Win condition:
You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated.

Players

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Welcome, PLAYER57832, you are a Vanilla Townie.
Abilities:
You have a vote, use it wisely.
Win condition:
You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated.

Storrzerg

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Welcome, Storrzerg, you are God (Town).
Abilities:
You may provide us a list of 2 players at the start of each cycle (N0 start), if a player in that list dies, You can save him (only 1). You can do this once per cycle. Cannot target same 2 players twice in a row. May ressurect 1 player from the dead in the game at any one time, in exchange for all your powers. You will become a Vanilla God (townie)
Win condition:
You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated.

Mafia

Pancakemix

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Welcome, pancakemix, you are the Mafia Telecom Specialist.
Abilities:
Starting N0, each night you may add 2 players to your Telecom Network. This will be a QT where you may chat at any time.
Win condition:
You win when mafia equals or outnumbers Town, or nothing can prevent this from happening.

Aladdin

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Welcome, Aladdinsane, you are the Mafia Turberbuoco.
Abilities:
You are compelled to misspell at least a couple words in every post.
Here is an example: 'Turberculose' you can misspell as 'Turperbuoco'. Enjoy and make us proud!
Win condition:
You win when mafia equals or outnumbers Town, or nothing can prevent this from happening.

Rishaed

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Welcome, Rishaed, you are the Mafia Roleblocker.
Abilities:
Every night you may choose a player to roleblock.
Win condition:
You win when mafia equals or outnumbers Town, or nothing can prevent this from happening.

/ (aka slash)

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Welcome, /, you are the Mafia Strategist with an Ego problem.
Abilities:
You have a 3-shot ability: the action(s) of whomever you target will 100% succeed. You also hate not being in command, so you want the Godfather dead.
Win condition:
You win when mafia equals or outnumbers Town, or nothing can prevent this from happening AND the Godfather is dead.

Metsfanmax

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Welcome, Metsfanmax, you are the Mafia Godfather.
Abilities:
Whenever you are targeted for investigation, it will return an opposite result to the investigator.
Win condition:
You win when mafia equals or outnumbers Town, or nothing can prevent this from happening.

The White Rose

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Welcome, the white rose, you are the Devil (mafia alligned).
Abilities:
You have a 1-time kill, usable at any time starting N1 (anonymous, published in game, will mention Devil). Kill is replenished with every 4 deaths in game (including your own kill). You do not know the other Mafia players. You are unkillable, except by the mafia nightkill. You die when last mafia dies.
Win condition:
You win when mafia equals or outnumbers Town, or nothing can prevent this from happening.

Third party

Madmitch (Only non-random role )

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Welcome, Madmitch, you are Jester (3rd party).
Abilities:
None.
Win condition:
You win if you get lynched on even days ONLY (D2, D4, D6, D8...)

Hotshot

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Welcome, HotShot53, you are the Mind Controller (3rd party).
Abilities:
Every night, you may target 1 player. There is a chance this player will become 'influenced' by you and you may now control this person's every move.
Win condition:
You win if you manage to survive until endgame (surviver).

WhatSausage

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Welcome, whatsausage, you are the Sleeping God (3rd party).
Abilities:
Every night (starting N0), you may choose any of the following effects (but not limited to) to take place in the game (they will last a full cycle):
-4 less votes needed for majority (only on D1 and 2)
-2 less votes needed for majority (any time)
-Only 1 post allowed per player during the next Day phase (unlimited amount of votes and unvotes still allowed)
-All players (including yourself) get a post restriction (spelling mistakes are obligatory). This will clear all post restrictions already in the game for a day.
-ANYTHING YOU CAN THINK OF (must run it by the mods, and we will decide to use it or not. Your chance to be creative)
Win condition:
You win if you manage to survive until endgame (surviver).

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

It is worth noting that Rishaed is also victorious. PancakeMix is not because he was modkilled, and I dont permit modkilled players to win.

Actions:

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N0 action (influences D1 and N1):

-Storrzerg: saves either mtamburini or virus90

N1 actions:

-whatsausage: special effect 'sticky vote'
-ptlowe: investigate Storrzerg (TOWN result)
-WingCmdr Ginkapo: 'save' (kill) white rose (results in NO ACTION, because BLOCKED by Rishaed)
-Skoffin saves IB
-Marashu investigates Skoffin (ANTITOWN result)
-Storrzerg: save either himself and pcm (active for D2 and N2)
-Rishaed: roleblock WCG
-Ragian: invents a 'star trek' gun with 'stun, wound and kill' option. Gives item to degaston.
-Mafia kill Marashu

N2 actions:

-Wing: 'saves' DJPatrick. (Blocked.)
-benga: cop check Ragian (results in 'TOWN')
-mitch is still jailed because startrek gun
-ptlowe investigates TWR (results in 'ANTI-TOWN')
-Ragian invents 'Personal Modifier' (2 actions, bulletproof self 1-shot OR 100% ninja certain of own ability 1-shot). Giving it to benga.
-LSU tiger josh invents a 'sweater', reveals targets identity. Targets Storr
-Rishaed blocks WCG.
-/ ninja kills ptlowe
-BENGA BECOMES 1-SHOT BULLETRPOOF (AGAINST ANYTHING BUT A LYNCH)

N3 actions:

- Wing doesn't "save"/kill anyone
- Marashu investigates The White Rose (result ANTI-TOWN)
- / doesn't use his 100% shot
- AladdInsane kills Marashu (fails due to 1 shot bulletproof -- Marashu no longer bulletproof)
- Ragian invents The Alignment Definer and targets Benga (target receives 3 random names, of which 2 are town and 1 scum)
- Rish blocks Iron Butterfly (not really blocking anything)
- LSU targets Benga with: (if used, resolves as giving benga one random town marked as anti-town)

Item results:
- Alignment Definer reveals: Wing, Rishaed, degaston (selected by random.org)
- Forensic Glasses: benga targets IB - Opposite result given - blood on IB

N4 actions:

-Rishaed blocks StorrZerg
-LSU sends Benga an investigation (
- / ninja kills Marashu

D5 action: The White Rose kills Storrzerg

N5 actions:

-Ragian gives Degaston busdrive.
-Mets kills LSU

N6 actions:

-Degaston busdrives Player and White Rose
-Mets kills Degaston

D7 action: The White Rose attempts to kill Benga (removes bulletproof)

N7 actions:

-Mets kills Degaston

N8 actions:

-Mets kills Rizky

[Metsfanmax]

TWR for MVP

Did you even have any idea that was coming? (For those who arent aware, The White Rose was not aware who his partners were, and the rest of mafia were not aware of the existance of another member)

Not really. I suspected that there was a mafia-aligned person in the game, and I suspected that TWR was lying about the full extent of his role, but I didn't piece together that TWR was the mafia-aligned person, because I suspected a mafia-aligned person to be vanilla otherwise.

[Iron Butterfly]

WOW WOW WOW.
Insane cops and inventers. No protection.
The Alamo X ten.

Hotshot never had a chance.

[Metsfanmax]

I think that overall Streaker and dakky did a good job balancing this game, but I still just don't understand the reasoning related to IB's role. He's right, Hotshot never had a chance.

Anyway, thanks to both of them and also to Wing for modding.

[rishaed]

WOW WOW WOW.
Insane cops and inventers. No protection.
The Alamo X ten.

Hotshot never had a chance.

yeah... something like that. The only thing that i'm amazed about is that A. Aladdin was able to Text wall himself out of a lynch. B. Mafia even won at all. WP by aladdin there. Props on getting out of the lynch. The fact that TWR was cleared by benga/marashu was nice as well... but still caused confusion.

[/]

Oh dear, someone bring my crying handkerchief.

Congrats on the win folks! Well earned.

[the white rose]

MVP for me has to be aladin had me completely fooled with his in depth analysis of the game, still cannot believe he was scum, was gonna be my next kill

[the white rose]

I think that overall Streaker and dakky did a good job balancing this game, but I still just don't understand the reasoning related to IB's role. He's right, Hotshot never had a chance.

Anyway, thanks to both of them and also to Wing for modding.

from IB's role pm, it suggests that he cannot name the player nor his role, yet on D1 he came right out with it leaving hotshot no chance.

thanks to the mods who controlled this difficult game, i sure enjoyed it.

think i played the town role better than i have ever played, shame i was mafia

one question i would like mafia to answer, why was their no nk on n3, and why was i never targetted if you believed i was town, yeah alright thats 2 questions

[Metsfanmax]

one question i would like mafia to answer, why was their no nk on n3

We targeted Marashu. I still don't know why he did not die. The action notes suggest that he was 1-shot BP at the time, but I don't know how that happened.

and why was i never targetted if you believed i was town

Simply put, we believed what you claimed in the thread. You went out of your way to say it didn't make sense for you to claim, it would negate your role. So for me, the best bet was that you were bulletproof (I even said in this thread that I thought this was the most likely explanation), and so attempting to kill you didn't make sense.

[the white rose]

is there a dead chat?

or can we see the mafia chat now?

[rizky_biznezz]

well done mafia.. im not overly surprised but that's because i had thought about every possible scenario lol.... you all played really well congrats

glad that its over though lol.. thanks dakky and streaker for starting and wing for taking over

gg all

[HotShot53]

The dead chat is at http://www.quicktopic.com/52/H/RmiZDfHEquw .... I was a very long term resident there lol.

The mods admitted after I died that I was kind of screwed over, I had pretty much no chance.

TWR hinting and then claiming bulletproof was a brilliant move on his part, since his only real risk was the other scum shooting him. Would have been such a surprise to them to find out they shot their friend lol. It was actually a mistake giving the scum read to the insane cop... he should have gotten a clean read, apparently dakky forgot he was insane, and when wing caught it, it was too late to correct it by then. With him being 1-shot unlynchable, it almost helped town after all.

Player actually did better than she thought... she was pointing out most of the scum, but unfortunately was discouraged from the mislynches and no-one else trusted her. You should try playing again player, most games are not nearly as crazy as this one was.

[madmitch]

great game thanks, nice paying TWR ,had everyone fooled ,good job.

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

The dead chat is at http://www.quicktopic.com/52/H/RmiZDfHEquw .... I was a very long term resident there lol.

The mods admitted after I died that I was kind of screwed over, I had pretty much no chance.

TWR hinting and then claiming bulletproof was a brilliant move on his part, since his only real risk was the other scum shooting him. Would have been such a surprise to them to find out they shot their friend lol. It was actually a mistake giving the scum read to the insane cop... he should have gotten a clean read, apparently dakky forgot he was insane, and when wing caught it, it was too late to correct it by then. With him being 1-shot unlynchable, it almost helped town after all.

Player actually did better than she thought... she was pointing out most of the scum, but unfortunately was discouraged from the mislynches and no-one else trusted her. You should try playing again player, most games are not nearly as crazy as this one was.

I checked with The White Rose just before the game end what his reads were, and he was sure IB was mafia. LOL

What surprised me, is nobody connected that White Rose had softclaimed bulletproof early in the game, then when claiming unlynchable suggested that he had withold his claim to try and draw a night killl..... Aladdin managed to utter both parts in a single post and yet didnt make the leap. Actually there were a lot of times Aladdin put together perfect scum cases against Mets and Slash without quite finishing them off for obvious reasons.

Mafia Chat

http://www.quicktopic.com/52/H/5qTeUGEuaeMc

[benga]

for me aladdin dominated this game, but i just could not force myself to read all his posts

@rish i didnt clear twr

too bad about hotshot, would love to see his roll in action

[Ragian]

Great game, everyone. I don't know who won. This became too many pages

[PLAYER57832]

Player actually did better than she thought... she was pointing out most of the scum, but unfortunately was discouraged from the mislynches and no-one else trusted her. You should try playing again player, most games are not nearly as crazy as this one was.

I am glad I tried the game, though it turned out to just be a bad time for me RL for a lot of different reasons as the game progressed. Per playing again -- I may at some point, but not right away, and yes, definitely a simpler game! The big thing is that I am not that great at deception, though I do love strategy games. Being able to see patterns is only part of this game. You also have to be able to pull others into your realm, and I am not the best at that, either.

Anyway, thanks for the try and yes.. well done mafia, particularly TWR, mets and Aladdin.

[dakky21]

BTW Hotshot's role was a complete lie.

If only he live a little more because he was supposed to be "insane" so his every action would fail.

Also, if only Aladdin ate apple D2... it would remove his language impairment.... to others, it did pretty much nothing.

[degaston]

Ragian,I really wish you had handled the gun situation differently.

Mods will not allow you to invent 'killer' items...

Wouldn't a gun that kills the user be considered a "killer" item? And even if it wasn't, or if the kill setting did nothing, lying about making a killer item when your role says that you can't seems like a recipe for trouble.

And why not at least give unambiguous descriptions of what the other two settings did? I might still have tried to kill Mitch, but I might have waited if I knew what my other options were. And if you still trusted me more than Mitch when I tried to kill him (Mitch had been lying about many things by then), you could have let me know then what the weapon would do. Or when I switched to wounding him, you could have let us know that it would not kill him, so I don't think that your inventions do nothing.

[Metsfanmax]

one question i would like mafia to answer, why was their no nk on n3

We targeted Marashu. I still don't know why he did not die.

Ah, this was explained in the dead chat. Storr's revivals get a 1-shot bulletproof vest, but that wasn't in Storr's role PM.

[Metsfanmax]

I'm going to add my voice to the chorus of people handing props to Aladdin. His posts got so unbearable that at some point even I stopped reading them, and just hoped that he wasn't screwing things up.

[the white rose]

Welcome, the white rose, you are the Devil (mafia alligned).
Abilities:
You have a 1-time kill, usable at any time starting N1 (anonymous, published in game, will mention Devil). Kill is replenished with every 4 deaths in game (including your own kill). You do not know the other Mafia players. You are unkillable, except by the mafia nightkill. You die when last mafia dies.
Win condition:
You win when mafia equals or outnumbers Town, or nothing can prevent this from happening.

I actually queried this role as it appeared to me that there was nothing to stop me claiming devil on day one as i could not be lynched and of course then mafia would not kill me. mafia could then just give me instructions in open chat as to who to kill.

So the role was changed to a 1 shot unlynchable and a 1 shot unnightkillable.

I was going to claim to be town god till storr beat me to it.

would have made my life much more difficult had ptlowe not decided to claim town cop on day one, he investigated me n1, found me antitown but was nkd before he could pass this on to town. A very good reason not to mass claim, take note storr and wcg

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

A very good reason not to mass claim, take note storr and wcg

I disagree. The number of times players, IB in particular, asked people for claims AFTER massclaim was ridiculous. The information wasnt used once Storr died, so I dont think a judgement can really be made.