WoT:Mem of Light An Ending

[dakky21]

So Dakky, from what you are saying, best case scenario you are telling the truth and ar an unaligned player waiting for someone to recruit you? I am not buying it.

I am aligned to Dark, but I think that doesn't necessarily mean I'm scum. As I already said (and I'm repeating myself), I believe there are two equal factions - Dark & Light. Therefore I believe both are neither town or scum until, as you say, recruited.

From what ive read, it says that The Dark One can tempt people with offers of immortality, making them a 'darkfriend'. Perhaps the dark one is a cult leader.

I guess that is possible and I think the town has a similar recruiter. I'm not a cult leader, I'm the lowest of the low in the Dark faction.

[sam_levi_11]

I'm honestly not convinced by Dakky's argument at all, and I don't like how he drip-fed up information about his role rather than just claiming straight out. For now, vote Dakky.

[aage]

Right Dakky, what faction are you? We will tell you if your town or mafia.

Can I use this one next game? That worked splendidly.

Yeah, slightly disappointed by how easy that was. Aage almost threw it away by giving the faction names which I was explicitly avoiding. Almost like he was throwing breadcrumbs to Dakky...

(At this point I think too many people have been trying to help Dakky, Aage and Mets most blatantly, but its still too many to all be scum)

1 google of WoT will lead you to light vs dark as that is the entire point of the series. Also I am confident most players will have both light and dark mentioned explicitly in their role pm's. Your framing of me is going poorly so far.


Dakky, abilities? Is your role name seriously "trolloc"?

[dakky21]

Dakky, abilities? Is your role name seriously "trolloc"?

No abilities, name to be exact: "Bull Trolloc", but I assumed all trolloc's are bulls. Or some kind of creature crossed with an animal.

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

All of you people pre-emptively going after dakky, that's pretty weak. If he flips town then you all get to play the "oops, well he probably had it coming anyway" card and I'm going to bet there's at least one scum on that.

At least give him a full 24 hours of day time so that he can really earn your lynch first.

This would be the defending post I would think.

It's not bad advice for town either. Pressuring accountability on people.

The first part stunk of trying to gain town cred post Dakkys lynch. Dakky flips scum, no harm done. Dakky flips town, Mets claims to have been the sensible townie and town cred.

The second part of his post was basically pointless when we couldnt lynch for 24hrs anyway. And that Mets only requoted that bit says a lot.

Clearly Dakky isnt in an inner circle otherwise he almost certaintly would have been chatting to his new scum mates N0, or at least seen he was in a gang. No harm for Mets to be the voice of reason in a lynch that was unstoppable anyway.

Aage give me time, barely ttying to frame you, waiting for a proper slip up.

[gregwolf121]

Greg should be in charge of calculating what percantage of the players claimed Dark. (OMGUS math )

you really are evil , i'm definitely going to have nightmares after this,

Greg did you play in strike wolf's breaking bad game? You rolled mafia and I wrecked you?

i don't remember playing a breaking bad mafia, but it has been a while, so not sure.

as for dakky's claim, in the books trollocs are a human animal hybrid, Their intelligence is questionable, they mostly go off animal instincts they do have a spoken and written language. they are very violent, they will fight/kill whatever they can, they enjoy it. Trollocs are creatures of the Dark One

[Metsfanmax]

All of you people pre-emptively going after dakky, that's pretty weak. If he flips town then you all get to play the "oops, well he probably had it coming anyway" card and I'm going to bet there's at least one scum on that.

At least give him a full 24 hours of day time so that he can really earn your lynch first.

This would be the defending post I would think.

It's not bad advice for town either. Pressuring accountability on people.

The first part stunk of trying to gain town cred post Dakkys lynch. Dakky flips scum, no harm done. Dakky flips town, Mets claims to have been the sensible townie and town cred.

The second part of his post was basically pointless when we couldnt lynch for 24hrs anyway. And that Mets only requoted that bit says a lot.

I requoted that bit to emphasize that the first part was a joke. As in, obviously dakky is going to do something idiotic to earn the lynch as soon as he has the opportunity.

[new guy1]

I don't mean to go off of flavor, and don't know much about the series, but I would think that since the opening scene was centered on Mat (and some internet reading has told me hes a protagonist, correct me if I'm wrong please) that the Light side would be the good guys in this. I am a little offput by the fact that dakky claimed Dark after some joke voting, seemingly on accident even though it could be cleared up by a mod through mail. I'll FOS Dakky, simply because if he does play often enough to know about mailing about role complications, I take it as a possible bomb threat.

[madmitch]

@ Mets , one thing Dakky isn't is idiot, He aways plays a mean game but something happened in this one. But can you blame him forwanting to die everyone was voting for him before D1 even started, even in the confirming stage he was voted for seemed a little bias there , Oh well someone has to die , but this seems awfully quick,

[tokle]

It does seem very quick.

The Trollocs are stupid and guidless, that much is accurate. They would need a fade to spur them on. I don't know dakky well enough to know if he knows the story enough to come up with this story himself. Is he trying to get lynched or is he truly confused about his role?

Anyway, if we have a defenseless Trolloc cornered it would be best to execute it.

vote dakky

[StorrZerg]

@ Mets , one thing Dakky isn't is idiot, He aways plays a mean game but something happened in this one. But can you blame him forwanting to die everyone was voting for him before D1 even started, even in the confirming stage he was voted for seemed a little bias there , Oh well someone has to die , but this seems awfully quick,

Yeah, this has to be the biggest troll post yet
Lol

[dakky21]

Is he trying to get lynched or is he truly confused about his role?

You'll have to find out that by yourself.

[StorrZerg]

Is he trying to get lynched or is he truly confused about his role?

You'll have to find out that by yourself.

vote dakky21

I will take that bait.

[Metsfanmax]

Is he trying to get lynched or is he truly confused about his role?

You'll have to find out that by yourself.

vote dakky21

I will take that bait.

Me too.

vote dakky

[HotShot53]

Is he trying to get lynched or is he truly confused about his role?

You'll have to find out that by yourself.

I was really thinking that dakky was seriously confused, and scum would never post that they are dark knowing it's a dark vs light series... but this post seems to be a dare to lynch him hoping we'll think he's a bomb or something and just let him live. I don't know anything about the series, but from everyone's posts who do know what they are talking about seems like he is looking to be recruited or given orders by the dark one, so it does seem like the sensible thing day 1 to lynch him before he does get recruited/told what to do. It is a shame that dakky took over the conversation immediately before any other cases could be thought about, even though day 1 cases are usually pretty bad it at least would have given a little bit more to think about night 1/day 2.

But overall, does seem like dakky is the lynch to make, so I plan to join it when we are ready for the day to end (he has enough votes on him already, don't need to lynch him this fast)

[strike wolf]

It does seem very quick.

The Trollocs are stupid and guidless, that much is accurate. They would need a fade to spur them on. I don't know dakky well enough to know if he knows the story enough to come up with this story himself. Is he trying to get lynched or is he truly confused about his role?

Anyway, if we have a defenseless Trolloc cornered it would be best to execute it.

vote dakky

I'm noting this. The entire post feels off. Notes it being quick and then votes at the end of the post. Either fails to note the concern in madmitch or shrugs it off without a word why. Feels like he's either noting concern and then jumping on the bandwagon or guilty conscience.

My guess aligned with Dakky but doesn't want it to be known openly. Concern is legitimate but wanted to vote to cover it up.

I don't know enough about the series to say that factions is unlikely or not but at this point it is just distraction and speculation.

What's the vote count?

[dakky21]

I was really thinking that dakky was seriously confused, and scum would never post that they are dark knowing it's a dark vs light series... but this post seems to be a dare to lynch him hoping we'll think he's a bomb or something and just let him live. I don't know anything about the series, but from everyone's posts who do know what they are talking about seems like he is looking to be recruited or given orders by the dark one, so it does seem like the sensible thing day 1 to lynch him before he does get recruited/told what to do. It is a shame that dakky took over the conversation immediately before any other cases could be thought about, even though day 1 cases are usually pretty bad it at least would have given a little bit more to think about night 1/day 2.

I'm waiting for more votes. By my count it's 6 or 7 currently. The truth might be different.

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

Is he trying to get lynched or is he truly confused about his role?

You'll have to find out that by yourself.

vote dakky21

I will take that bait.

Me too.

vote dakky

Oooh look, Mets trying to blend in with Storr....

[Ragian]

Wow, Monday morning and already there's a lynch train gaining steam. I would like clarification about a few things if possible:
- If dakky is Dark and we presume them to be scum (someone with knowledge of the series made that connection, I forget who), wouldn't he then know the rest of his scumgang? And wouldn't they have told him N0 to not claim Dark? (Unless they couldn't chat N0?)
- If dakky is Dark, then someone is light. Was it aage who stated that he was? Are those the goodies in the series? Or do we have several factions?
- I read here that Mat's father has fought the trollocs. I.e. trollocs (that would be dakky) are against Mat's father (so I presume also Mat). Are we accepting that Mat is necessarily a good guy?

Of course, this seems to hinge a lot on dakky not being full of bull...

[Marashu]

Of course, this seems to hinge a lot on dakky not being full of bull...

This is what it boils down to, really. In the series, the book A Memory of Light is all about the final battle between the forces of the Light and the forces of the Dark. Most of the split factions in the series band together for one side or the other. Trollocs are the foot soldier for the Dark. In Rish' first game, "Dark" was the mafia. If dakky wants to argue that his role didn't say mafia, only dark, then I would say that dark equates to informed minority. With the exception of wolf trollocs, trollocs are not intelligent - but this is a mafia game, so I would very much doubt if dakky had to play out his role's flavour intelligence.

Dakky is 100% the lynch to make. I'm ok with waiting until Wednesday to cast my vote on him. My biggest concern right now is why dakky WANTS to be lynched, and I do not know why. He knows better than to volunteer his alignment N0, especially volunteering that it's an anti-town alignment.

@Ragian - Mat is the lead general for the forces of the Light. He is also one of the main characters of the books.

[aage]

Dakky, abilities? Is your role name seriously "trolloc"?

No abilities, name to be exact: "Bull Trolloc", but I assumed all trolloc's are bulls. Or some kind of creature crossed with an animal.

Trollocs are kinda like orcs that have a variety of animalistic features, so a bull trolloc would be a bad guy that has bull features.

Still a bad guy though, and no abilities seems weird. I'll vote Dakky, honestly you damned yourself already when you made your first claim about your role. I'd love to see how you flip, if you seriously are a trolloc this is gonna be a weird game. Won't know until you do though. Thanks for volunteering as D1 lynch.

[rishaed]

Vote Count:

Mandalorian (1) - Gregwolf
dakky21 (8) - Tokle, Storrzerg, BuJaber, TimWoodbury, Samlevi, metsfanmax, aage, DoomYoshi

With 20 alive it takes 11 to lynch. Deadline is the 28th.

[StorrZerg]

I'd lynch Greg next day. Going against dakky lynch by pushing someone else.

[TimWoodbury]

this lynch to me is starting to feel almsot like the 1st lych of last game, either tottaly confused or there is a motive for dakky to wanna die lets all accept he is in fact daring us to kill him... are we gonna take the dare and do it or le him continue to dare us every day till the end.

[madmitch]

I am agreeing with Tim, Dakky has played enough games to not make such a great error, something does not smell right, Why does he want to die? This situation has me worried about what he is ? If everyone thinks this is the best thing to do I have no problem joining the group but I am still worried about possible side effects ( nuke)