IILWUHAS - racist language

[Serbia]

I hope he continues to think everyone is out to get him, and continues to implode, and is simply perma-banned. Fuck this racist.

you cant legislate morality asshole...

On a privately owned website you can legislate whatever the hell you want, fuckwad. Enjoy your vacation.

I'm not "sure" you can call someone a fukwad on here lol... you pathetic reverse racist piece of shit
and as far as privately owned, so what idiot?? that gives you some sort of justification for banning speech huh?? lol...funny, you seem to have no problem calling me fukwad, but are "offended" by me calling doctor ass a nigger?? hmmmmm... ummm f u loser

A) it's not against the rules on Conquer Club for me to call you a fuckwad
B) it is against the rules on Conquer Club to use racist language
C) you actually are a racist fuckwad; that's not just an opinion, it's fact
D) yes, privately owning something gives you justification in banning speech

[IILWUHAS]

well go f*ck yourself fukwad...funny that an asshole piece of shit like you justifies one name calling but not another?? you are a scumbag loser liberal douchebag...wouldn't piss on you if on fire....and you can shove ya notion of speech banning up your ass loser...what you think of me cares not ONE BIT to me at all lol....

[Serbia]

well go f*ck yourself fukwad...funny that an asshole piece of shit like you justifies one name calling but not another?? you are a scumbag loser liberal douchebag...wouldn't piss on you if on fire....and you can shove ya notion of speech banning up your ass loser...what you think of me cares not ONE BIT to me at all lol....

I don't make the rules. The owner of the site has, along with his Admin team, and they've decided that racist speech will get you banned.

You think I'm a liberal, that's hilarious. You're a coward, because you foe me so I can't post on your wall, yet you continue to post on mine. A cowardly, racist fuckwad.

Just wait little buddy, your ban is coming.

[IILWUHAS]

f*ck you Serbia you fuktard....pathetic that a punk ass little BITCH like you thinks its okay to use derogatory terms but I cant?? f*ck you ya piece of shit...if I got banned, YOUDESERVE the exact same thing for your insult to me...you are a typical hypocrite piece of shit...you cannot post on my wall because you are a Michigan two faced scumbag...I don't allow douchebags to post on my wall

[Serbia]

lol ok fuckwad. You'll be banned for racist language. I haven't used any racist language. Take a step away from your computer and calm down a notch, eh?

[Extreme Ways]

Serbia turning on the heat. Also inb4 locked.

The owner of the site allows what can and can not be said. What does this mean in practice? Insult eachother, but dont be a bigot. Do I agree with it? Doesn't matter, just like you said on my wall. What does matter is that you crossed that line and that CC mods dont usually like that.

[Doctor Spin]

IILWUHAS - homophobic remarks

Accused:

IILWUHAS

The accused are suspected of:

Other: <Bigotry - homophobic remarks>

Comments: This guy has overstepped the line already, with severe racist remarks (see previous C&A report). He has continued to dig his hole of ignorance - and there are many examples of this - but yet again he's breached a clear rule of Conquer Club by attacking other players (namely me and Serbia on this occasion) with homophobic remarks on his Wall. The remarks are clearly intended to be derogatory and, like racism, there is no place for such bigotry on this site. I request that the MODS please kick this guy off the site for good. He is poison.

His remarks are as follows (note, these are just 2 examples):


1. So Doctor Spin and Serbia got a ;little racist rant going LMAO ...its okay to be gay , you two, just domt PM me ...I don't go that sort of way :)
2. Serbia , this douchebag from Detroit must be gay...okay if he is {obviously he is) just that I'm not gay..he keeps sending me love letters in pm lol...jeez, some peoples kids...im not gay Serbia..you are blocked, go away loser


I make no secret of it, I do not like IILWUHAS and everything he purports to stand for. So, yes, I am looking for ways to remove him from this site. Vindictive, perhaps, but it would do a lot of people a lot of favours if he were to disappear.

Thank you.

[IcePack]

I placed him on temporarily forum ban to give the C&A Mods / Admin time to look into this.

However, the other thread was locked. If you have additional input you should not open a new thread, but submit an eticket or PM one of the C&A mods.

This will get merged with the other thread most likely.

[Extreme Ways]

Bullshit report and adds nothing new. We're at the FAMO stage here. Yeah he doesn't like you, I think he has a reason for that too. However, if you would receive such a comment from for example me, would you think it is bigoted? He clearly mentions twice it's okay to swing that way.

Whatever the intentions, this is not bigotry. If you ban this you might as well come back on the mrs case.

[owenshooter]

Bullshit report and adds nothing new. We're at the FAMO stage here. Yeah he doesn't like you, I think he has a reason for that too. However, if you would receive such a comment from for example me, would you think it is bigoted? He clearly mentions twice it's okay to swing that way.

Whatever the intentions, this is not bigotry. If you ban this you might as well come back on the mrs case.

um, it is actually against the bigotry guidelines... fyi... and we are WAY past the foe and move on stage, we are at the "community team needs to decide if he is banned for a few months or all together. is it from the forums/pms or from the site all together", trust me. this kid is going on a long vacation... -Jésus noir

[Extreme Ways]

Bullshit report and adds nothing new. We're at the FAMO stage here. Yeah he doesn't like you, I think he has a reason for that too. However, if you would receive such a comment from for example me, would you think it is bigoted? He clearly mentions twice it's okay to swing that way.

Whatever the intentions, this is not bigotry. If you ban this you might as well come back on the mrs case.

um, it is actually against the bigotry guidelines... fyi... and we are WAY past the foe and move on stage, we are at the "community team needs to decide if he is banned for a few months or all together. is it from the forums/pms or from the site all together", trust me. this kid is going on a long vacation... -Jésus noir

Is mentioning that being gay is okay against the bigotry guidelines? Like how the army (used to?) maintain a "Dont ask dont tell" policy? Honestly curious.

So the community guidelines are actually fairly hard to find if you dont know where you should look. I stumbled upon this:

• Bigotry includes racism, sexism, ageism, homophobia/sexual orientation bashing, religion bashing, lack of religion bashing, or wishing violence on any group of people, etc.
• Bigotry takes into account historic events, emotional baggage and generally accepted associations with a term, phrase or intent - posting "White Power" in a topic has a history and is bigoted, posting "Green Power" makes you an environmentalist.

Bigotry will get your post edited/deleted and you will receive a disciplinary action from a mod. Bigotry, just avoid it. Just do it.

Source: https://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewt ... 5#p1759438

If you read this [the wall post] literally, the accused is not bashing gays at all:

its okay to be gay

Serbia , this douchebag from Detroit must be gay...okay if he is {obviously he is) just that I'm not gay.

Do I think he means it in a positive and gay-encouraging way? No, of course I dont. I'm just afraid we'll get to a policy where mentioning "gay" is a bannable offense, regardless of context.

[riskllama]

*cue symmetry*

[Extreme Ways]

*cue symmetry*

Please no.

[riskllama]

you have only yourself to blame, EW.

[Extreme Ways]

you have only yourself to blame, EW.

Allow me to be the mod for those who are known to be racist or have been in the past. We need one of those on CC for them to complain to.

[IcePack]

Bullshit report and adds nothing new. We're at the FAMO stage here. Yeah he doesn't like you, I think he has a reason for that too. However, if you would receive such a comment from for example me, would you think it is bigoted? He clearly mentions twice it's okay to swing that way.

Whatever the intentions, this is not bigotry. If you ban this you might as well come back on the mrs case.

um, it is actually against the bigotry guidelines... fyi... and we are WAY past the foe and move on stage, we are at the "community team needs to decide if he is banned for a few months or all together. is it from the forums/pms or from the site all together", trust me. this kid is going on a long vacation... -Jésus noir

Is mentioning that being gay is okay against the bigotry guidelines? Like how the army (used to?) maintain a "Dont ask dont tell" policy? Honestly curious.

So the community guidelines are actually fairly hard to find if you dont know where you should look. I stumbled upon this:

• Bigotry includes racism, sexism, ageism, homophobia/sexual orientation bashing, religion bashing, lack of religion bashing, or wishing violence on any group of people, etc.
• Bigotry takes into account historic events, emotional baggage and generally accepted associations with a term, phrase or intent - posting "White Power" in a topic has a history and is bigoted, posting "Green Power" makes you an environmentalist.

Bigotry will get your post edited/deleted and you will receive a disciplinary action from a mod. Bigotry, just avoid it. Just do it.

Source: https://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewt ... 5#p1759438

If you read this [the wall post] literally, the accused is not bashing gays at all:

its okay to be gay

Serbia , this douchebag from Detroit must be gay...okay if he is {obviously he is) just that I'm not gay.

Do I think he means it in a positive and gay-encouraging way? No, of course I dont. I'm just afraid we'll get to a policy where mentioning "gay" is a bannable offense, regardless of context.

No, mentioning the word gay is not a bannable offense. Only if you are using it in a bigoted way.

[Symmetry]

*cue symmetry*

Please no.

Hello, Extreme Ways. He's referring to a very nasty period of CC history when it was exactly the case that "gay" was a bannable word. There are still people here who are unhappy that I petitioned the mods to change that.

[owenshooter]

*cue symmetry*

Please no.

Hello, Extreme Ways. He's referring to a very nasty period of CC history when it was exactly the case that "gay" was a bannable word. There are still people here who are unhappy that I petitioned the mods to change that.

of which you can't name a single one or point to a single instance of this alleged behaviour... now, please go back under your rock...

and EW, i understand english is not your first language, so the nuances he is using may be escaping you... trust me, his comments are bigoted... i hope this kid gets a very lengthy vacation if not an out right ban... the black jesus has spoken...-Bj

[Extreme Ways]

and EW, i understand english is not your first language, so the nuances he is using may be escaping you... trust me, his comments are bigoted... i hope this kid gets a very lengthy vacation if not an out right ban... the black jesus has spoken...-Bj

Please, reread what I said. English is not my first language but it is the first time I've heard it as an excuse rather than a compliment.

If you read this [the wall post] literally, the accused is not bashing gays at all:

its okay to be gay

Serbia , this douchebag from Detroit must be gay...okay if he is {obviously he is) just that I'm not gay.

Do I think he means it in a positive and gay-encouraging way? No, of course I dont. I'm just afraid we'll get to a policy where mentioning "gay" is a bannable offense, regardless of context.

Also gives you a way to respond to why I said what I said, instead of referring to "he's probably stupid".

[mrswdk]

Don't worry, EW. Some people don't understand nuance, but that's their fault not yours.

[owenshooter]

Don't worry, EW. Some people don't understand nuance, but that's their fault not yours.

and some people don't understand racism/bigotry guidelines or rules, even when beaten over the head with them... but that's not your fault, it just took a few bans for it to sink in...

now, back to the topic at hand... what this kid did is beyond the pale. there is obviously some sort of serious deliberation going on behind the scenes concerning this matter. he was advised of the guidelines, a mod warned him in the thread, he continued, he literally melted down in front of our own eyes... do they stick with a "FIRST WARNING" or view the severity of what he did and go for the "OWENSHOOTER NAP" and give him 6 months? maybe a month would let him cool his jets... 3 months would send a great message... 6 months, i know how that feels and i don't wish that upon anyone... a site ban? everyone deserves a second chance, a third chance, a fourth chance, etc...

he blasted his racist diatribe in pm's, on the forums, on walls, everywhere except global and live chat (he probably couldn't find them)... i think the totality of what he did has to be considered... this has to be more than a FIRST WARNING situation... good luck Team CC!!! you have been doing a great job with this issue for the past month, let's hope you stick to your guns!!! the black jesus supports you!!-Bj

as i always say...

[Evil Semp]

IILWUHAS has been issued a WARNING for bigotry/racism. He has received a 72 website vacation pending admin review and possible increase to a 1 month vacation.

Update: ! month forum ban has been issued.