risklover80 and Game 17057191 [ka]

[Generalissimo]

Accused:

risklover80

The accused is suspected of:

Other: Intentionally throwing a game.

Game number(s):

Game 17057191

Comments:

risklover80's feelings were hurt because I attacked him, and so he broadcast troop numbers, locations, and intentionally vacated territories (while explaining all of this in the game chat) during a Fog of War game, solely to hand the game to woolleyy.

I don't know if I am accusing woolleyy of cheating, or being the lucky receiver of chance, but there's no doubt in my mind that risklover80 intentionally threw the game. He outlined it in the game chat.

[mrswdk]

Congratulations on being the first person to file a C&A thread during a blissful period where mega troll owenshooter is not here to immediately pile into your thread calling you and everyone else a jackass. We all look forward to the speedy resolution of this case without undue delay (^0^)

[Frox333]

Congratulations on being the first person to file a C&A thread during a blissful period where mega troll owenshooter is not here to immediately pile into your thread calling you and everyone else a jackass. We all look forward to the speedy resolution of this case without undue delay (^0^)

Lol instead of him it's up to you to do that now : )

[archieball]

Foe and move on. Case closed.

[Donelladan]

Foe and move on. Case closed.

Intentionally throwing a game is forbidden.
It seems here indeed that risklover80 threw the game.
The chat wasn't even heated until risklove80 just start throwing the game off.

The guy set-up a 3 players games, then start suiciding because it's late and he is pissed off that OP attacked him, while before, OP and accused were working together against the 3rd player.
When you set-up a 3 players you go to expect at some point 2 players may gang-up against you. If you can't stand that, don't start 3 players games !
But, seeing the chat, they didn't even gang up against accused. So he went mad for a fight about 1 territory ?

Anyway, risklover80 admitted it in chat plain and obvious.

2016-12-13 07:07:41 - Generalissimo: From the rules: "Obviously any gross abuse of the game is forbidden. This includes but is not limited to: throwing games."
2016-12-13 07:07:52 - Generalissimo: risklover80 is a cheater.
2016-12-13 07:08:35 - risklover80: i didt dumbass you pissed me off and came at me so i just sent everything to you

risklover80 deserves a warning to remind him that throwing game isn't allowed.
If it's becoming too late for him to keep playing, then you just switch off the computer and go to bed, no need to throw the game.


Note, at the point risklover80 start throwing the game, he was leader in regions and in deploy ( can't tell about troops number). Everyone had 2 castle and 1 village, but red has around 26-28 regions.

This is when accused start throwing the game :

2016-12-13 06:45:23 - risklover80: ok bluie its late
2016-12-13 06:45:32 - risklover80: green has 200 men at me in south
2016-12-13 06:45:45 - risklover80: you can have my great kindom castle
2016-12-13 06:45:49 - risklover80: this game is yours
2016-12-13 06:46:03 - risklover80: im leaving that castle you can have 3
2016-12-13 06:46:07 - risklover80: and this game

From time stamp you can see that he had more regions than others, and therefore he really threw the game :

Blue :

2016-12-13 06:46:54 - woolleyy got bonus of 5 troops added to Feudal Empire Castle
2016-12-13 06:46:54 - woolleyy got bonus of 5 troops added to Rebel Territory Castle
2016-12-13 06:46:54 - woolleyy got bonus of 3 troops added to Rhu Village
2016-12-13 06:46:54 - woolleyy received 3 troops for holding 6 Feudal Empire Territories
2016-12-13 06:46:54 - woolleyy received 3 troops for holding 6 Rebel Territory Territories
2016-12-13 06:46:54 - woolleyy received 6 troops for 19 regions
2016-12-13 06:46:58 - woolleyy deployed 12 troops on Northern Plains 16

Accused :


2016-12-13 06:47:20 - risklover80 got bonus of 5 troops added to Imperial Dynasty Castle
2016-12-13 06:47:20 - risklover80 got bonus of 5 troops added to Great Kingdom Castle
2016-12-13 06:47:20 - risklover80 got bonus of 3 troops added to Yer Village
2016-12-13 06:47:20 - risklover80 received 3 troops for holding 6 Imperial Dynasty Territories
2016-12-13 06:47:20 - risklover80 received 3 troops for holding 6 Great Kingdom Territories
2016-12-13 06:47:20 - risklover80 received 8 troops for 26 regions
2016-12-13 06:47:24 - risklover80 deployed 14 troops on Yer Village


OP :

2016-12-13 06:47:42 - Generalissimo got bonus of 5 troops added to Barbarians Castle
2016-12-13 06:47:42 - Generalissimo got bonus of 5 troops added to Realm of Might Castle
2016-12-13 06:47:42 - Generalissimo got bonus of 3 troops added to Fol Village
2016-12-13 06:47:42 - Generalissimo received 3 troops for holding 6 Barbarians Territories
2016-12-13 06:47:42 - Generalissimo received 3 troops for holding 6 Realm of Might Territories
2016-12-13 06:47:42 - Generalissimo received 6 troops for 19 regions
2016-12-13 06:47:45 - Generalissimo deployed 12 troops on Barbarians 5

[Generalissimo]

That's the thing. The game was pretty much a push -- risklover80 had the most territories but also was fighting a big battle with woolleyy; woolleyy (we thought--incorrectly, I learned when the fog lifted) was connected and shuttling troops back and forth to both borders; I'm pretty sure I led in the troop count, as I had an entire castle that didn't get involved in anything at all, only amassing troops, until after risklover80 started to throw it. So it could have gone any way. More than likely, woolleyy was going to lose first, as he wasn't actually connected and so didn't have the ability to shift troops around like we suspected.

There simply was no reason to throw the game, except spite. I don't dig that.

[mrswdk]

Anyway, risklover80 admitted it in chat plain and obvious.

2016-12-13 07:07:41 - Generalissimo: From the rules: "Obviously any gross abuse of the game is forbidden. This includes but is not limited to: throwing games."
2016-12-13 07:07:52 - Generalissimo: risklover80 is a cheater.
2016-12-13 07:08:35 - risklover80: i didt dumbass you pissed me off and came at me so i just sent everything to you

risklover80 deserves a warning to remind him that throwing game isn't allowed.

That isn't an admission of game throwing. That's risklover80 saying Geralissimo was focusing too much on him, so he got pissed and threw all his efforts into fending off Geralissimo. The result was that woolley won, but that doesn't mean risklover's intention was to let woolley win.

Lots of people go into 3-player games and then freak out whenever anyone attacks them. Some people (*cough*betiko and nietzsche*cough*) freak out whenever someone attacks them in a game of any size. That doesn't mean they're game throwers.

[Donelladan]

You know, you can click on the link provided in the first post to directly go to the game, then have a look to the chat...

Here, plain and obvious :

2016-12-13 06:41:00 - risklover80: try me
2016-12-13 06:45:23 - risklover80: ok bluie its late
2016-12-13 06:45:32 - risklover80: green has 200 men at me in south
2016-12-13 06:45:45 - risklover80: you can have my great kindom castle
2016-12-13 06:45:49 - risklover80: this game is yours
2016-12-13 06:46:03 - risklover80: im leaving that castle you can have 3
2016-12-13 06:46:07 - risklover80: and this game
2016-12-13 06:46:19 - risklover80: he wants to fight me he can and you can win
2016-12-13 06:46:55 - risklover80: we know hes not going ht you
2016-12-13 06:46:58 - risklover80: so have the win
2016-12-13 06:47:50 - risklover80: you dont need 35
2016-12-13 06:47:56 - risklover80: dont take great 7
2016-12-13 06:48:13 - risklover80: yet so i can move my castle unless you want to waste men killing them
2016-12-13 06:48:36 - risklover80: you can take it green has 28 next ti it
2016-12-13 06:48:42 - risklover80: gg blue
2016-12-13 06:49:06 - risklover80: i will kill 200 men of greens and you will win
2016-12-13 06:49:16 - risklover80: well 300
2016-12-13 06:50:37 - risklover80: there green bring your 300 men to me
2016-12-13 06:50:58 - risklover80: its over green lol
2016-12-13 06:52:32 - risklover80: wanna play like a dumbass then you loose
2016-12-13 06:54:03 - risklover80: theres 100 down of greens blue
2016-12-13 06:54:14 - risklover80: 200 more in barbians
2016-12-13 06:55:06 - risklover80: well 377
2016-12-13 06:56:23 - risklover80: ok blue 164 left
2016-12-13 06:56:58 - risklover80: ill stay to waste my men on him while you advance
2016-12-13 07:02:03 - risklover80: how that work out for you green'

The part I quoted above, and that you quoted again, was only his last and short admission.

[king achilles]

He has been warned.

[mrswdk]

You know, you can click on the link provided in the first post to directly go to the game, then have a look to the chat...

Here, plain and obvious :

2016-12-13 06:41:00 - risklover80: try me
2016-12-13 06:45:23 - risklover80: ok bluie its late
2016-12-13 06:45:32 - risklover80: green has 200 men at me in south
2016-12-13 06:45:45 - risklover80: you can have my great kindom castle
2016-12-13 06:45:49 - risklover80: this game is yours
2016-12-13 06:46:03 - risklover80: im leaving that castle you can have 3
2016-12-13 06:46:07 - risklover80: and this game
2016-12-13 06:46:19 - risklover80: he wants to fight me he can and you can win
2016-12-13 06:46:55 - risklover80: we know hes not going ht you
2016-12-13 06:46:58 - risklover80: so have the win
2016-12-13 06:47:50 - risklover80: you dont need 35
2016-12-13 06:47:56 - risklover80: dont take great 7
2016-12-13 06:48:13 - risklover80: yet so i can move my castle unless you want to waste men killing them
2016-12-13 06:48:36 - risklover80: you can take it green has 28 next ti it
2016-12-13 06:48:42 - risklover80: gg blue
2016-12-13 06:49:06 - risklover80: i will kill 200 men of greens and you will win
2016-12-13 06:49:16 - risklover80: well 300
2016-12-13 06:50:37 - risklover80: there green bring your 300 men to me
2016-12-13 06:50:58 - risklover80: its over green lol
2016-12-13 06:52:32 - risklover80: wanna play like a dumbass then you loose
2016-12-13 06:54:03 - risklover80: theres 100 down of greens blue
2016-12-13 06:54:14 - risklover80: 200 more in barbians
2016-12-13 06:55:06 - risklover80: well 377
2016-12-13 06:56:23 - risklover80: ok blue 164 left
2016-12-13 06:56:58 - risklover80: ill stay to waste my men on him while you advance
2016-12-13 07:02:03 - risklover80: how that work out for you green'

The part I quoted above, and that you quoted again, was only his last and short admission.

The part you quoted was a denial, bruh. In the bit you quoted he said he didn't throw the game.

I still think it's up in the air whether his ranting meant 'i'm giving this game to you' or 'I feel like you've ruined this game and handed the win to the other guy'.

[Donelladan]

Hum I read the "I didt" as " I did it " but it seems you read the " I didt" as "I didn't".
Maybe you right

[iAmCaffeine]

You know, you can click on the link provided in the first post to directly go to the game, then have a look to the chat...

Here, plain and obvious :

2016-12-13 06:41:00 - risklover80: try me
2016-12-13 06:45:23 - risklover80: ok bluie its late
2016-12-13 06:45:32 - risklover80: green has 200 men at me in south
2016-12-13 06:45:45 - risklover80: you can have my great kindom castle
2016-12-13 06:45:49 - risklover80: this game is yours
2016-12-13 06:46:03 - risklover80: im leaving that castle you can have 3
2016-12-13 06:46:07 - risklover80: and this game
2016-12-13 06:46:19 - risklover80: he wants to fight me he can and you can win
2016-12-13 06:46:55 - risklover80: we know hes not going ht you
2016-12-13 06:46:58 - risklover80: so have the win
2016-12-13 06:47:50 - risklover80: you dont need 35
2016-12-13 06:47:56 - risklover80: dont take great 7
2016-12-13 06:48:13 - risklover80: yet so i can move my castle unless you want to waste men killing them
2016-12-13 06:48:36 - risklover80: you can take it green has 28 next ti it
2016-12-13 06:48:42 - risklover80: gg blue
2016-12-13 06:49:06 - risklover80: i will kill 200 men of greens and you will win
2016-12-13 06:49:16 - risklover80: well 300
2016-12-13 06:50:37 - risklover80: there green bring your 300 men to me
2016-12-13 06:50:58 - risklover80: its over green lol
2016-12-13 06:52:32 - risklover80: wanna play like a dumbass then you loose
2016-12-13 06:54:03 - risklover80: theres 100 down of greens blue
2016-12-13 06:54:14 - risklover80: 200 more in barbians
2016-12-13 06:55:06 - risklover80: well 377
2016-12-13 06:56:23 - risklover80: ok blue 164 left
2016-12-13 06:56:58 - risklover80: ill stay to waste my men on him while you advance
2016-12-13 07:02:03 - risklover80: how that work out for you green'

The part I quoted above, and that you quoted again, was only his last and short admission.

The part you quoted was a denial, bruh. In the bit you quoted he said he didn't throw the game.

I still think it's up in the air whether his ranting meant 'i'm giving this game to you' or 'I feel like you've ruined this game and handed the win to the other guy'.

Is there a difference?

[riskllama]

not really, no. quit trolling C&A, mrs...

[mrswdk]

I still think it's up in the air whether his ranting meant 'i'm giving this game to you' or 'I feel like you've ruined this game and handed the win to the other guy'.

Is there a difference?

Number one means 'I am deliberately throwing the game to help one person win', number two means 'you're a jerk and by hounding me all game you've enabled player three to win'.

[iAmCaffeine]

I still think it's up in the air whether his ranting meant 'i'm giving this game to you' or 'I feel like you've ruined this game and handed the win to the other guy'.

Is there a difference?

Number one means 'I am deliberately throwing the game to help one person win', number two means 'you're a jerk and by hounding me all game you've enabled player three to win'.

The latter suggests that it would be a result of someone's antagonistic plays (in this case OP), whereas here the accused has decided to make sure OP can't win the game, which is different. Happy trolling.

[mrswdk]

I still think it's up in the air whether his ranting meant 'i'm giving this game to you' or 'I feel like you've ruined this game and handed the win to the other guy'.

Is there a difference?

Number one means 'I am deliberately throwing the game to help one person win', number two means 'you're a jerk and by hounding me all game you've enabled player three to win'.

The latter suggests that it would be a result of someone's antagonistic plays (in this case OP), whereas here the accused has decided to make sure OP can't win the game, which is different. Happy trolling.

You do know the more up-to-date version of Godwin's Law is that the first person to accuse the other of being a troll loses, right?

Reads to me like risklover got pissed off at being targeted and, figuring General had already cost both of them the game, thought he might as well go down taking the fight back to General.

Well, I mean, I said 'reads to me', but he does actually explicitly say that, so it should read to everyone with a reasonable level of English language comprehension.

[Rasberry]

risk lover is a total whackjob

why waste your time playing that baby la la

move on

[Thorthoth]

What was he warned about? C&A should have publicly posted verdicts.

[iAmCaffeine]

Why do you care what some random nobody was warned about in December last year?

[Thorthoth]

Why do you care that I care?
Actually I care about the just an equitable application of law. Something that a former multi such as yourself probably wouldn't understand.

[IcePack]

Knock it off, both of you. Take it elsewhere. C&A isn't the place for you two to bicker