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yes, i would like to see some sort of empirical data backing these claims... perhaps some graphs, coloured pie charts, examples, data sets... i look forward to seeing this information...-Jésus noirExtreme Ways wrote:Quite the assumption.
No, the claim that I probably misunderstood the rating system. I shouldve been clear.owenshooter wrote:yes, i would like to see some sort of empirical data backing these claims... perhaps some graphs, coloured pie charts, examples, data sets... i look forward to seeing this information...-Jésus noirExtreme Ways wrote:Quite the assumption.
I read the post in the suggestion forums, so my opinion had been confirmed. I had been told a 0/5 was worse than 1/5 before, but never really got proof for it.Donelladan wrote:How do you think the ratings works EW ? I am curious !
OMG, HELL NO! NO YOU DIDN'T!!!!!! You nasty. U b like tell ling da mods to be like cross spreading d word 2 d people. U trippin homs. They b, nah, 4get dat. we b kool rite now A.riskllama wrote:maybe the mods should better explain this on the ratings page...
so, that is incorrect? this is kind of all over the place. can you make one clear and concise statement that even I will be able to follow? no graphs needed, just break it down in really small words for me!!!-Jésus noirExtreme Ways wrote:I read the post in the suggestion forums, so my opinion had been confirmed. I had been told a 0/5 was worse than 1/5 before, but never really got proof for it.Donelladan wrote:How do you think the ratings works EW ? I am curious !
Knowing that if you give someone 3 times 0/5 you actually aren't giving them any ratings, it wouldn't be register, this is clearly illogical that giving someone 1/5 then 0/5 and 0/5 is actually worse than a 1/5,1/5,1/5.Extreme Ways wrote:I read the post in the suggestion forums, so my opinion had been confirmed. I had been told a 0/5 was worse than 1/5 before, but never really got proof for it.Donelladan wrote:How do you think the ratings works EW ? I am curious !
It's still clickbait title, which is probably ok for attracting people in here, but something I very dislike myself. I was taking a friendly jab at that, I know Nymeria.Donelladan wrote:Knowing that if you give someone 3 times 0/5 you actually aren't giving them any ratings, it wouldn't be register, this is clearly illogical that giving someone 1/5 then 0/5 and 0/5 is actually worse than a 1/5,1/5,1/5.Extreme Ways wrote:I read the post in the suggestion forums, so my opinion had been confirmed. I had been told a 0/5 was worse than 1/5 before, but never really got proof for it.Donelladan wrote:How do you think the ratings works EW ? I am curious !
And not exactly correct either, since the 0/5 does decrease the overall ratings, but your ratings in each category isn't influenced by the 0/5 but only by the rated one. ( well I am not 100% sure of that but that's what I understood from the suggestion).
My point was, I think OP is right and probably many people misunderstood how the rating system works.
THanksDonelladan wrote:https://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=221633&view=unread#unread
Your answer is in the linked above.
The answer is 0/5 doesn't count for each of the three category :
Fair Play
Gameplay
Attitude
But it count for the overall rating.
Clear ?
hmmm the internet must be rubbing off on me. i didnt notice that was what it was when writing the title, but now that you say it i reckon thats what i was subconsciously doing.Extreme Ways wrote:It's still clickbait title, which is probably ok for attracting people in here, but something I very dislike myself. I was taking a friendly jab at that, I know Nymeria.Donelladan wrote:Knowing that if you give someone 3 times 0/5 you actually aren't giving them any ratings, it wouldn't be register, this is clearly illogical that giving someone 1/5 then 0/5 and 0/5 is actually worse than a 1/5,1/5,1/5.Extreme Ways wrote:I read the post in the suggestion forums, so my opinion had been confirmed. I had been told a 0/5 was worse than 1/5 before, but never really got proof for it.Donelladan wrote:How do you think the ratings works EW ? I am curious !
And not exactly correct either, since the 0/5 does decrease the overall ratings, but your ratings in each category isn't influenced by the 0/5 but only by the rated one. ( well I am not 100% sure of that but that's what I understood from the suggestion).
My point was, I think OP is right and probably many people misunderstood how the rating system works.
Yeah, that's the way it is, but it's counter-intuitive. I'll bet 99% of the members don't realize that's how it works. It isn't formally documented.iAmCaffeine wrote:Last I knew, rating a 0/5 for attitude doesn't affect the player's attitude rating, but does impact their overall rating.
I can only speak for myself, but that makes no sense at all. Why would you count it towards one sort of rating and not towards the other? Is this a mistake that they won't bother to fix, because it's not that important or is there an actual explanation for using this kind of system? Can't think of any kind of logical explanation myself, but I haven't got all the knowledge. Please enlighten me!Dukasaur wrote:Yeah, that's the way it is, but it's counter-intuitive. I'll bet 99% of the members don't realize that's how it works. It isn't formally documented.iAmCaffeine wrote:Last I knew, rating a 0/5 for attitude doesn't affect the player's attitude rating, but does impact their overall rating.
Your guess is as good as mine. I'm sure the only person who knows is lackattack. He implemented the new ratings system way back in '09 or whenever and never looked at it again. BigWham upgraded the ratings graphics so that the stars do their pretty dance when you mouse over them, but he didn't touch the core algorithm as far as I know.JBlombier wrote:I can only speak for myself, but that makes no sense at all. Why would you count it towards one sort of rating and not towards the other? Is this a mistake that they won't bother to fix, because it's not that important or is there an actual explanation for using this kind of system? Can't think of any kind of logical explanation myself, but I haven't got all the knowledge. Please enlighten me!Dukasaur wrote:Yeah, that's the way it is, but it's counter-intuitive. I'll bet 99% of the members don't realize that's how it works. It isn't formally documented.iAmCaffeine wrote:Last I knew, rating a 0/5 for attitude doesn't affect the player's attitude rating, but does impact their overall rating.
- JBlombier
it appears one of those things that you code in a rush, and leave it there knowing that it needs fixing and you plan to do it later and then you forget all about it.Dukasaur wrote:Your guess is as good as mine. I'm sure the only person who knows is lackattack. He implemented the new ratings system way back in '09 or whenever and never looked at it again. BigWham upgraded the ratings graphics so that the stars do their pretty dance when you mouse over them, but he didn't touch the core algorithm as far as I know.JBlombier wrote:I can only speak for myself, but that makes no sense at all. Why would you count it towards one sort of rating and not towards the other? Is this a mistake that they won't bother to fix, because it's not that important or is there an actual explanation for using this kind of system? Can't think of any kind of logical explanation myself, but I haven't got all the knowledge. Please enlighten me!Dukasaur wrote:Yeah, that's the way it is, but it's counter-intuitive. I'll bet 99% of the members don't realize that's how it works. It isn't formally documented.iAmCaffeine wrote:Last I knew, rating a 0/5 for attitude doesn't affect the player's attitude rating, but does impact their overall rating.
- JBlombier
I am in one of the 99%. When you mouse-over the stars, the second star from the left is labelled "Bad" first star from the left is labelled "No Rating", not "Worse than Bad". which would imply that it is treated as a N/A and not counted.Dukasaur wrote:Yeah, that's the way it is, but it's counter-intuitive. I'll bet 99% of the members don't realize that's how it works. It isn't formally documented.iAmCaffeine wrote:Last I knew, rating a 0/5 for attitude doesn't affect the player's attitude rating, but does impact their overall rating.
