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Seriously though... that Notre Dame law professor is gorgeous. And I'm not a fan of blondes. I had one hot law professor (a brunette) and it was like a minor miracle. You don't find a lot of super hot law professors.jusplay4fun wrote:Good points and good questions.
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That article claims the judge in question says it's okay to put religious principles before the law. Doesn't sound like a very impartial judge.thegreekdog wrote:Some relevant news items:
http://www.dailywire.com/news/20726/wat ... nk-berrien#
Democrats attack a super hot Catholic judicial nominee over her religion.
Do you think that if they were excommunicated they'd oppose gay marriage.thegreekdog wrote:Some relevant news items:
http://www.dailywire.com/news/20726/wat ... nk-berrien#
Democrats attack a super hot Catholic judicial nominee over her religion. It's illegal to do this in the United States, but no one seems to care (other than people like me).
http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/07/politics/ ... index.html
The king of conservative media (or whatever) is drudging up old 19th century anti-Catholic stuff. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Know_Nothing
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... 080335a3eb
A baker who doesn't want to bake a cake for a gay wedding for religious reasons is getting his ass kicked.
Is religious freedom on the way out in the United States? Do you think we see a partial repeal of the 1st Amendment (either through an amendment or judicial activism)? Why are Democrats and liberals (and libertarians) focusing on Christians/Catholics and not other religions?
I believe she answered that question twice. First, she said if there is a religious reason for a judge to rule a certain way, he or she should recuse himself or herself. Second, she said that she does not put religion before the law. Regardless of what the article says, this woman does not think it's okay to put religion before the law. Also, for what it's worth, Justice Scalia was and Justice Thomas is Catholic. Justice Ginsburg is Jewish. Their religions did not influence their decisions. In any event, it is literally against the law to require a religious test for government service.mrswdk wrote:That article claims the judge in question says it's okay to put religious principles before the law. Doesn't sound like a very impartial judge.thegreekdog wrote:Some relevant news items:
http://www.dailywire.com/news/20726/wat ... nk-berrien#
Democrats attack a super hot Catholic judicial nominee over her religion.
That said, the fact that the US has such a thing as 'conservative judges' and 'liberal judges' shows that it doesn't really have an impartial judiciary in the first place, so I guess religious partiality probably ought to be okay as well.
Based on my strict constructionist interpretation of the law, I don't think any judge should be able to oppose gay marriage for legal reasons. I'm sure there are arguments, but I haven't seen many anti-gay marriage decisions recently. The decisions dealing with that issue seem to be ones where someone religious is not doing something for a gay marriage.Symmetry wrote:Do you think that if they were excommunicated they'd oppose gay marriage.thegreekdog wrote:Some relevant news items:
http://www.dailywire.com/news/20726/wat ... nk-berrien#
Democrats attack a super hot Catholic judicial nominee over her religion. It's illegal to do this in the United States, but no one seems to care (other than people like me).
http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/07/politics/ ... index.html
The king of conservative media (or whatever) is drudging up old 19th century anti-Catholic stuff. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Know_Nothing
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... 080335a3eb
A baker who doesn't want to bake a cake for a gay wedding for religious reasons is getting his ass kicked.
Is religious freedom on the way out in the United States? Do you think we see a partial repeal of the 1st Amendment (either through an amendment or judicial activism)? Why are Democrats and liberals (and libertarians) focusing on Christians/Catholics and not other religions?
I actually kind of agree with you on both cases. I am a little wary of people using religion as a shield though. There are plenty of Catholics who support gay marriage, after all. Being Catholic and supporting marriage isn't something that's mutually exclusive.
But you raise a larger issue, which I think is a little silly. Do you really think that other religions aren't focused on?

We can feed and provide for the poor with the taxes paid by the religious organizations. Jesus would approve!notyou2 wrote:I believe religions should lose their tax free exemptions.
The article didn't really do a very good job of setting out exactly who has said what and when tbh. Seems like you're getting twister about some shitty website's shitty and sensationalized reporting on what was probably a minor aside made one by not-very-senior politician.thegreekdog wrote:I believe she answered that question twice. First, she said if there is a religious reason for a judge to rule a certain way, he or she should recuse himself or herself. Second, she said that she does not put religion before the law. Regardless of what the article says, this woman does not think it's okay to put religion before the law. Also, for what it's worth, Justice Scalia was and Justice Thomas is Catholic. Justice Ginsburg is Jewish. Their religions did not influence their decisions. In any event, it is literally against the law to require a religious test for government service.mrswdk wrote:That article claims the judge in question says it's okay to put religious principles before the law. Doesn't sound like a very impartial judge.thegreekdog wrote:Some relevant news items:
http://www.dailywire.com/news/20726/wat ... nk-berrien#
Democrats attack a super hot Catholic judicial nominee over her religion.
That said, the fact that the US has such a thing as 'conservative judges' and 'liberal judges' shows that it doesn't really have an impartial judiciary in the first place, so I guess religious partiality probably ought to be okay as well.
No she wouldn't. There are tons of people of Islam apologists in the pro-choice crowd, to the point of delusion. i.e. forcing the women to wear sheets over their bodies somehow empowers them.Dukasaur wrote:Yeah, the opposition may be mentioning that she's Catholic, but I think the real issue is that she's anti-abortion. There are many types of Protestants and most Muslims and various others who are also anti-abortion, so I think if she was associated with one of those she would be equally opposed.
What about women who choose to wear Halloween costumes without anyone forcing them to?TA1LGUNN3R wrote:No she wouldn't. There are tons of people of Islam apologists in the pro-choice crowd, to the point of delusion. i.e. forcing the women to wear sheets over their bodies somehow empowers them.Dukasaur wrote:Yeah, the opposition may be mentioning that she's Catholic, but I think the real issue is that she's anti-abortion. There are many types of Protestants and most Muslims and various others who are also anti-abortion, so I think if she was associated with one of those she would be equally opposed.
-TG
I briefly read that, but from what I read, people are attacking (her) for being a judge with religious beliefs. No problem with opinions, people can say what they want about others, provided it isn't defamation or character assassination. I'd have an issue with her too if she were basing her judgments on either her religious beliefs or personal beliefs, rather than adhering to what the law requires. If I misread that article, my bad.thegreekdog wrote:Some relevant news items:
http://www.dailywire.com/news/20726/wat ... nk-berrien#
Democrats attack a super hot Catholic judicial nominee over her religion. It's illegal to do this in the United States, but no one seems to care (other than people like me).
I don't care what comes out of Wikipedia generally. Didn't bother to read.thegreekdog wrote: http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/07/politics/ ... index.html
The king of conservative media (or whatever) is drudging up old 19th century anti-Catholic stuff. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Know_Nothing
Alright, so I'm siding with the baker. Privately owned bakery, completely allowed to bar people provided the service is blanket. Sucks to be gay, go to another bakery?thegreekdog wrote: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... 080335a3eb
A baker who doesn't want to bake a cake for a gay wedding for religious reasons is getting his ass kicked.
Is religious freedom on the way out in the United States? Do you think we see a partial repeal of the 1st Amendment (either through an amendment or judicial activism)? Why are Democrats and liberals (and libertarians) focusing on Christians/Catholics and not other religions?
Dukasaur wrote:Your obsession with mrswdk is really sad.saxitoxin wrote:taking medical advice from this creature; a morbidly obese man who is 100% convinced he willed himself into becoming a woman.
ConfederateSS wrote:Just because people are idiots... Doesn't make them wrong.
Then they should ask if she is anti-abortion, not whether she is Catholic.Dukasaur wrote:Yeah, the opposition may be mentioning that she's Catholic, but I think the real issue is that she's anti-abortion. There are many types of Protestants and most Muslims and various others who are also anti-abortion, so I think if she was associated with one of those she would be equally opposed.
(1) Catholic judge - The woman has consistently maintained both through the questioning and prior that religious preferences should not enter into decisions. As Duk notes, the issue is that she may be anti-abortion. If she is anti-abortion, she should be questioned on that basis, not on her religion.DirtyDishSoap wrote:I briefly read that, but from what I read, people are attacking (her) for being a judge with religious beliefs. No problem with opinions, people can say what they want about others, provided it isn't defamation or character assassination. I'd have an issue with her too if she were basing her judgments on either her religious beliefs or personal beliefs, rather than adhering to what the law requires. If I misread that article, my bad.thegreekdog wrote:Some relevant news items:
http://www.dailywire.com/news/20726/wat ... nk-berrien#
Democrats attack a super hot Catholic judicial nominee over her religion. It's illegal to do this in the United States, but no one seems to care (other than people like me).
I don't care what comes out of Wikipedia generally. Didn't bother to read.thegreekdog wrote: http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/07/politics/ ... index.html
The king of conservative media (or whatever) is drudging up old 19th century anti-Catholic stuff. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Know_Nothing
Alright, so I'm siding with the baker. Privately owned bakery, completely allowed to bar people provided the service is blanket. Sucks to be gay, go to another bakery?thegreekdog wrote: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... 080335a3eb
A baker who doesn't want to bake a cake for a gay wedding for religious reasons is getting his ass kicked.
Is religious freedom on the way out in the United States? Do you think we see a partial repeal of the 1st Amendment (either through an amendment or judicial activism)? Why are Democrats and liberals (and libertarians) focusing on Christians/Catholics and not other religions?
They probably should -- I don't disagree. I was merely pointing out that their motivation is probably not to restrict religious freedom.thegreekdog wrote:Then they should ask if she is anti-abortion, not whether she is Catholic.Dukasaur wrote:Yeah, the opposition may be mentioning that she's Catholic, but I think the real issue is that she's anti-abortion. There are many types of Protestants and most Muslims and various others who are also anti-abortion, so I think if she was associated with one of those she would be equally opposed.