NFL "Taking a knee"

[Bernie Sanders]

So here's a question I've pondered.
What is the most offensive?
(Perhaps it needs a poll)
Kneeling during the national anthem?
Waving a Confederate flag, symbol of a bunch of people who went to war against the USA?
Or wearing swastikas and giving a Nazi salute?

---------The SOUTH was American, Confederate Flags are American Flags......Native Americans wave the C.S.A. flags..I can't imagine why...
----------A lot of other people who went to war against the USA......Wave flags here in America.......In Southwest Detroit, Mexicans wave and fly Mexico's flag...You know a country that went to war against the USA....I see kids with the Union Jack on their shirts ,the country American Rebels got there freedom from...Kids also wear The flag of The Empire of THE SUN, you know ,the one that bombed Pearl Harbor...

As for The National Anthem ...In my Catholic School at our games, we said the Our Father,instead of playing that song...Did not say the pledge of allegiance ...Because in public schools ,they took praying out of the classroom...It was the catholic schools way to show the separation of church and state...As a private business ,people go to NFL games to watch football,not political stances on life...Take the protests outside the stadiums into the parking lots........ ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)... ...As for what the dumb ass Ravens did in London...Shows the true loyalty of Americans for America....The very place where America's freedom began... ...Making America the biggest fool on the World's Stage...

-------The nazis took the crooked cross from a great sign of a peaceful religion....That is not a nazi salute.......It is a Roman one...Hail Rome!!!!...Hail Caesar !!!!!!!!!!

Yes and your Catholic Church was hiding child molesters.

[riskllama]

lol, sick bern.

[mrswdk]

Since when was the swastika a Roman symbol?

[DoomYoshi]

Since Alexander the Great invaded Nepal.

[mrswdk]

DoomYoshi? More like BIG CUNT.

[DoomYoshi]

Why do you think Natives fly the flag?

[waauw]

I once took a knee to the balls, never lost an argument quicker.

[jonesthecurl]

So here's a question I've pondered.
What is the most offensive?
(Perhaps it needs a poll)
Kneeling during the national anthem?
Waving a Confederate flag, symbol of a bunch of people who went to war against the USA?
Or wearing swastikas and giving a Nazi salute?

---------The SOUTH was American, Confederate Flags are American Flags......Native Americans wave the C.S.A. flags..I can't imagine why...
----------A lot of other people who went to war against the USA......Wave flags here in America.......In Southwest Detroit, Mexicans wave and fly Mexico's flag...You know a country that went to war against the USA....I see kids with the Union Jack on their shirts ,the country American Rebels got there freedom from...Kids also wear The flag of The Empire of THE SUN, you know ,the one that bombed Pearl Harbor...

As for The National Anthem ...In my Catholic School at our games, we said the Our Father,instead of playing that song...Did not say the pledge of allegiance ...Because in public schools ,they took praying out of the classroom...It was the catholic schools way to show the separation of church and state...As a private business ,people go to NFL games to watch football,not political stances on life...Take the protests outside the stadiums into the parking lots........ ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)... ...As for what the dumb ass Ravens did in London...Shows the true loyalty of Americans for America....The very place where America's freedom began... ...Making America the biggest fool on the World's Stage...

-------The nazis took the crooked cross from a great sign of a peaceful religion....That is not a nazi salute.......It is a Roman one...Hail Rome!!!!...Hail Caesar !!!!!!!!!!

I doubt if the swastika-wearers of America today are devout buddhists. And just because the Romans saluted that way first, doesn't make it a "Roman" salute whenever it's used. The Romans farted, but that doesn't mean I'm giving a Latin bottom-burp when I let one go.

[Symmetry]

So here's a question I've pondered.
What is the most offensive?
(Perhaps it needs a poll)
Kneeling during the national anthem?
Waving a Confederate flag, symbol of a bunch of people who went to war against the USA?
Or wearing swastikas and giving a Nazi salute?

---------The SOUTH was American, Confederate Flags are American Flags......Native Americans wave the C.S.A. flags..I can't imagine why...
----------A lot of other people who went to war against the USA......Wave flags here in America.......In Southwest Detroit, Mexicans wave and fly Mexico's flag...You know a country that went to war against the USA....I see kids with the Union Jack on their shirts ,the country American Rebels got there freedom from...Kids also wear The flag of The Empire of THE SUN, you know ,the one that bombed Pearl Harbor...

As for The National Anthem ...In my Catholic School at our games, we said the Our Father,instead of playing that song...Did not say the pledge of allegiance ...Because in public schools ,they took praying out of the classroom...It was the catholic schools way to show the separation of church and state...As a private business ,people go to NFL games to watch football,not political stances on life...Take the protests outside the stadiums into the parking lots........ ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)... ...As for what the dumb ass Ravens did in London...Shows the true loyalty of Americans for America....The very place where America's freedom began... ...Making America the biggest fool on the World's Stage...

-------The nazis took the crooked cross from a great sign of a peaceful religion....That is not a nazi salute.......It is a Roman one...Hail Rome!!!!...Hail Caesar !!!!!!!!!!

I doubt if the swastika-wearers of America today are devout buddhists. And just because the Romans saluted that way first, doesn't make it a "Roman" salute whenever it's used. The Romans farted, but that doesn't mean I'm giving a Latin bottom-burp when I let one go.

This whole "I'm just respecting history", while ignoring history thing that ConfedSS has going has never really panned out when put under scrutiny.

[Woodruff]

Yeah so, I have a ton of Dolphin stuff I need to get rid of but maybe if the NFL goes under some of this stuff could be worth money some day! Decisions.

I can never understand the huge amounts of butthurt that came with people taking a knee for the national anthem. It's a way of protesting, and I honestly would rather prefer this over the level of ignorance displayed at college campuses that stand on the flag and rip them up. I agree that maybe they don't even know what they're protesting about, or that they are simply uninformed or lack any sort of opinion on the matter, but the beauty of all of this is, is that they have that right to form their (opinion) and to protest in a manner that isn't violent.

So what's the uproar about? I've seen kids in high school and lower not stand for the anthem, not even kneel. Lack of patriotism isn't what's killing this country, it's people that want others to do what they think is right and shut them down without a forethought.

Basically, I don't support it, but I'm not gonna get sand in my pussy and act like this is the most heinous of crimes committed.

Well stated, DDS. What kills me is that these same folks who are in such an uproar over this have never seemed to care about all of the folks standing in line at the concession stands during the National Anthem. It makes one wonder what the REAL angst is all about, to be honest.

[Woodruff]

On a related note, in the US it is technically illegal for citizens to do anything other than put their hand on their heart and face the flag whenever the national anthem is played:

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/36/301

The US Flag Code is a guideline, not a law. There is no punitive response to not following the US Flag Code. But since it has been brought up, how about all of these flag-loving individuals not even being willing to follow the recommendations of the US Flag Code as regards respectful dealings with the flag. That's a fascinating topic all in itself.

[Woodruff]

I am extremely offended by it.

I watch one football game a year, the Superbowl. May skip even that this year. I watch EVERY nascar race, and have been given a lot of grief for it over the years. However....it is the second most popular viewed sport on TV, after the NFL. Maybe now it will be #1....these drivers and teams ALL do so much for the needy, all year long. Oh....and they respect our flag, anthem and military men and women.....I'm happy about my sports preferences ;o)

But KoolBak, these protests have nothing at all to do with our flag, the anthem, or our military men and women. Their actions are not at all in response to those things, nor are their actions disrespectful at all. IN POINT OF FACT, Colin Kaepernick's kneeling was started by his discussions with a former Green Beret. In other words, this form of protest was SUGGESTED by someone who had been a Green Beret. Think about that...perhaps it may change your perspective.

[ConfederateSS]

So here's a question I've pondered.
What is the most offensive?
(Perhaps it needs a poll)
Kneeling during the national anthem?
Waving a Confederate flag, symbol of a bunch of people who went to war against the USA?
Or wearing swastikas and giving a Nazi salute?

---------The SOUTH was American, Confederate Flags are American Flags......Native Americans wave the C.S.A. flags..I can't imagine why...
----------A lot of other people who went to war against the USA......Wave flags here in America.......In Southwest Detroit, Mexicans wave and fly Mexico's flag...You know a country that went to war against the USA....I see kids with the Union Jack on their shirts ,the country American Rebels got there freedom from...Kids also wear The flag of The Empire of THE SUN, you know ,the one that bombed Pearl Harbor...

As for The National Anthem ...In my Catholic School at our games, we said the Our Father,instead of playing that song...Did not say the pledge of allegiance ...Because in public schools ,they took praying out of the classroom...It was the catholic schools way to show the separation of church and state...As a private business ,people go to NFL games to watch football,not political stances on life...Take the protests outside the stadiums into the parking lots........ ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)... ...As for what the dumb ass Ravens did in London...Shows the true loyalty of Americans for America....The very place where America's freedom began... ...Making America the biggest fool on the World's Stage...

-------The nazis took the crooked cross from a great sign of a peaceful religion....That is not a nazi salute.......It is a Roman one...Hail Rome!!!!...Hail Caesar !!!!!!!!!!

I doubt if the swastika-wearers of America today are devout buddhists. And just because the Romans saluted that way first, doesn't make it a "Roman" salute whenever it's used. The Romans farted, but that doesn't mean I'm giving a Latin bottom-burp when I let one go.

----That was my point,just because the nazis used that salute doesn't make it evil(or even a symbol like the crooked cross)...A gun is not evil...A robber may use a gun to rob and kill...A hunter may use a gun to provide food for his family...It is up to the person ,not the symbol ,you can't blame a symbol for a human's act...You have to blame the human...
----That was my point MRS...not just an Eastern religious symbol...But found in some Native Americans art work...Before they would have known anything about ASIA...Ironic...
----Native Americans wave The Battle Flag,because the CSA fought the USA,gave the USA the finger ,most likely because THE USA ROB THE INDIANS OF THEIR LAND,THE INDIANS MIGHT BE A LITTLE PISSED OFF... ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)... ...back on topic...Don't take your politics to your work place...PERIOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[ConfederateSS]

I am extremely offended by it.

I watch one football game a year, the Superbowl. May skip even that this year. I watch EVERY nascar race, and have been given a lot of grief for it over the years. However....it is the second most popular viewed sport on TV, after the NFL. Maybe now it will be #1....these drivers and teams ALL do so much for the needy, all year long. Oh....and they respect our flag, anthem and military men and women.....I'm happy about my sports preferences ;o)

But KoolBak, these protests have nothing at all to do with our flag, the anthem, or our military men and women. Their actions are not at all in response to those things, nor are their actions disrespectful at all. IN POINT OF FACT, Colin Kaepernick's kneeling was started by his discussions with a former Green Beret. In other words, this form of protest was SUGGESTED by someone who had been a Green Beret. Think about that...perhaps it may change your perspective.

----Woody....THE FACT THAT KAPADICK DECIDED TO USE THE TIME WHEN ALL ARE LOOKING AT THE FLAG DURING THE NATIONAL ANTHEM,THE TIME AND PLACE HE CHOSE TO DO HIS PROTEST...HAS EVERYTHING TO DO WITH WHAT YOU SAYNOW ,because that is how Americans see it ...WHO DO YOU WORK FOR "CNN"..... ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)... ....Kappy could have held his protest at church,but many wouldn't have been there on a Sunday afternoon...Those that would be,would be kneeling anyway,so no one would have known anything was happening,other than some dude on his knee in church...

[Woodruff]

I am extremely offended by it.

I watch one football game a year, the Superbowl. May skip even that this year. I watch EVERY nascar race, and have been given a lot of grief for it over the years. However....it is the second most popular viewed sport on TV, after the NFL. Maybe now it will be #1....these drivers and teams ALL do so much for the needy, all year long. Oh....and they respect our flag, anthem and military men and women.....I'm happy about my sports preferences ;o)

But KoolBak, these protests have nothing at all to do with our flag, the anthem, or our military men and women. Their actions are not at all in response to those things, nor are their actions disrespectful at all. IN POINT OF FACT, Colin Kaepernick's kneeling was started by his discussions with a former Green Beret. In other words, this form of protest was SUGGESTED by someone who had been a Green Beret. Think about that...perhaps it may change your perspective.

----Woody....THE FACT THAT KAPADICK DECIDED TO USE THE TIME WHEN ALL ARE LOOKING AT THE FLAG DURING THE NATIONAL ANTHEM,THE TIME AND PLACE HE CHOSE TO DO HIS PROTEST...HAS EVERYTHING TO DO WITH WHAT YOU SAYNOW ,because that is how Americans see it ...WHO DO YOU WORK FOR "CNN"..... ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)... ....Kappy could have held his protest at church,but many wouldn't have been there on a Sunday afternoon...Those that would be,would be kneeling anyway,so no one would have known anything was happening,other than some dude on his knee in church...

So your real complaint is that these protests are happening where there is high visibility?

Why won't these protesters just do their thing out of sight, so we won't have to see it...is that it?

Does that actually make sense to you as you're thinking it?

[riskllama]

lol, i expect it does...

[KoolBak]

Po-tay-toe, po-tah-tow.....I'm happy

[DirtyDishSoap]

I am extremely offended by it.

I watch one football game a year, the Superbowl. May skip even that this year. I watch EVERY nascar race, and have been given a lot of grief for it over the years. However....it is the second most popular viewed sport on TV, after the NFL. Maybe now it will be #1....these drivers and teams ALL do so much for the needy, all year long. Oh....and they respect our flag, anthem and military men and women.....I'm happy about my sports preferences ;o)

But KoolBak, these protests have nothing at all to do with our flag, the anthem, or our military men and women. Their actions are not at all in response to those things, nor are their actions disrespectful at all. IN POINT OF FACT, Colin Kaepernick's kneeling was started by his discussions with a former Green Beret. In other words, this form of protest was SUGGESTED by someone who had been a Green Beret. Think about that...perhaps it may change your perspective.

----Woody....THE FACT THAT KAPADICK DECIDED TO USE THE TIME WHEN ALL ARE LOOKING AT THE FLAG DURING THE NATIONAL ANTHEM,THE TIME AND PLACE HE CHOSE TO DO HIS PROTEST...HAS EVERYTHING TO DO WITH WHAT YOU SAYNOW ,because that is how Americans see it ...WHO DO YOU WORK FOR "CNN"..... ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)... ....Kappy could have held his protest at church,but many wouldn't have been there on a Sunday afternoon...Those that would be,would be kneeling anyway,so no one would have known anything was happening,other than some dude on his knee in church...

Every time I see you post, I imagine you, hovering over your keyboard, slamming your hands down in an attempt to construct a coherent sentence, but your face is constantly dribbling over your keyboard so it makes that much harder to type.

It makes one wonder what the REAL angst is all about, to be honest.

A society where you benefit more for being the victim in victimless cases. Everyone has feelings and everyone needs their opinion to be heard, no matter how shitty or stupid it is, but God forbid if they hear criticism for your opinion or get offended by it. You become a deplorable for it.

It's just how we are now. The basic principles of challenging thought is met with screams, raves, tears, and whatever else. No one wants to take five minutes out of their day and actually think about anything that hurts their small protected world. Cry loud enough, and you'll shut down every criticism tossed your way.

[mrswdk]

It's just how we are now.

Were things different back in the day?

[DirtyDishSoap]

I'd like to imagine it was.

[ConfederateSS]

------Yes, Woody the stage does matter...Could you imagine Dr. King kneeling at a Major League baseball game, he ,as kapadick today would be killed the 2nd time he tried it...Instead Dr.King took his message to Washington D.C...A bigger stage...I guess like most fat ass lazy Americans...kapadick is to lazy to march on Washington...A knee at his place of work is easier... ... ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)... ...More funny things on topic, They are getting ready to tear down the murderer Ray Rice's statue in Baltimore...Do to kneeing at a game,not because he is a murderer, ironic ...Bernie,I guess Big Ben Roth. was a priest...Along with other NFL players...

[DirtyDishSoap]

For that to happen, he'd have to be a major league baseball player, now wouldn't he? Apples to apples.
Aside from that, King was assassinated for his civil rights movement...So what's your point?
And he didn't just march his way to DC. He was an advocate for equal rights for YEARS. There's already a lot of similarities between the two as is. Both have voiced their opinions at public events, both receive death threats for speaking out, both have a passion for basically the same thing.

So here's the differences. Kaepernick does this at a place of work, and I can back you on how I think there is a time and place for it. I can also back you that it's disrespectful to the fans who just want to watch football. Point being, though, is that Kaepernick, among others, have accomplished exactly what they had intended to do: Shock the nation and to send a message. The fact that you're typing about it, and probably speaking about it consistently, is proof enough that it worked.

[patches70]

Kaepernick, among others, have accomplished exactly what they had intended to do: Shock the nation and to send a message. The fact that you're typing about it, and probably speaking about it consistently, is proof enough that it worked.

Yes! Thank God for Kaepernick, now cops don't shoot and kill black people anymore. Now, if someone would just kneel against black on black violence we can eliminate black people killing other black people.

Hip hip hurrah for kneeling!

Oh, wait, it's all just virtue signalling. It makes you feel like you've done something, inflates your ego and confirms to yourself and others that you are a "good" person but does absolutely nothing for the actually problem you are virtue signalling about.

Oh well, it's the thought that counts I suppose.

[armati]

Patriotism Is A Two-Edged Sword

I sometimes wonder if America’s greatest threat is the population’s hyper-patriotism. The bulk of the population is now at work shutting down the NFL players’ First Amendment rights, and none of the incensed censors are capable of understanding that it is they, and not the NFL players, who are attacking the U.S. Constitution. We have been through all this flag business before, and federal courts have ruled for the protesters who burnt flags, wore them on their clothes, whatever. Yet, here we go again.
pcr

[patches70]

Dude, the NFL player is exercising their right when they kneel. The guy who sees this and says "You are an idiot" is also exercising his right. The NFL teams could say to the players "You will not kneel during the anthem before a game while you play of this team" is also exercising their right to protect their brand. The team owners can also allow the players to kneel as well if they so wish.

No one is violating anyone's rights. People do stupid shit all the time and other people call for them to be fired. Those calling for such action have no right or power to carry through with it, but they have the right to petition, which means talking to the people who do have such authority and try to convince them.

It's not like the NFL has any moral high ground either. How many domestic violence issues with players are there? How many drug problems and other issues have been done, swept under the rug or ignored by teams, owners, administration and players alike have occurred? Loads!

They are just people like everyone else. If some people wanna call them POS then so be it, it's no big deal either way. If the owners start feeling the backlash in their pocketbooks you can bet your ass that they'd crack down on the players if they have to to protect their brand.
What's hilarious to me is the NFL caving to the libtards, SJW's and PC police when those people already despise the NFL and what it symbolizes and will never be a part of the audience anyway, regardless. All that's happening now is their customer base is getting pissed off because their customer base, the people who actually watch football, breath football, are all mouth breathing regular joes who do buy into the whole SJW political grandstanding business at all. They are people who stand for the anthem and don't hate the American flag. But hey, if the owners wanna take the chance, it's their problem.

But there is nothing wrong with people getting offended at the player's actions and there is nothing wrong with admiring those actions either. Just like there is nothing wrong with people being cynical about the whole thing and just don't give a shit either way. The Gestapo isn't coming to get ya regardless. Mountains out of molehills.
Our lives are so easy we gotta find shit to get worked up about. It's hilarious.