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Mr_Adams wrote:You, sir, are an idiot.
Timminz wrote:By that logic, you eat babies.
I felt it was supporting of a nonsense line of argument about how a former Nike executive's kid died. It was and is irrelevant, still, I was in the wrong here, and I apologise for my mistake.spurgistan wrote:Not supporting in the least, in my reading, more of a "Umm maybe his death was horrible and not linked to any sort of personal character failing."
Apology accepted! Thanks for your earnest reply... I hadn't intended to take a stand on the issue just supply informationSymmetry wrote:Actually, I did you a disservice here and I apologise. I conflated your post with Koolbak's attack on the dead kid.
For that I am sorry, I was simply wrong. You were merely supporting his nonsense point. I don't like it, but that doesn't justify what I said.
I apologise for my previous post.
oh, he's the guy with just one hand... i did hear about him a few month ago. and he's got a twin brother also playing football right?Symmetry wrote:Back on topic- Kaepernick's first commercial:
Good commercial.Symmetry wrote:Back on topic- Kaepernick's first commercial:
riskllama wrote:Koolbak wins this thread.
Aye, apology accepted. After all, you're not the only one to have been a bit crap in this thread,KoolBak wrote:Uh...."attack on dead kid" ? Really? Damn sym....that hurt. I simply outlined my experience with Nike and it sucked. The kid was a complete narcissistic snob. One of the worst humans I've ever met. The fact that he died tragically has nothing to do with it....I said I felt bad for his dad as I would for any parent losing a child.
Anyway....back to thread....sorry.
I liked it too. People can be very cynical about commercials, but they are an art form, and this was a good one.thegreekdog wrote:Good commercial.Symmetry wrote:Back on topic- Kaepernick's first commercial:
i checked his wiki it said that he plays and always played for the 49s... i don't remember hearing that the 49s ever went to the superbowl since joe montana( check out my sick namedropping!)DoomYoshi wrote:No he isn't. Kaepernick was a quarterback that went to the Superbowl and lost. Then his entire team fell apart and became a dysfunctional mess (with a terrible locker-room culture). None of this may be Kaepernick's fault, but he was there for it. Also another team in their division became supergods for a few seasons (when people were cheering they were causing earthquakes) so they were in a bad spot. Then he got replaced as QB and started kneeling during the national anthem instead of standing.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Bowl_XLVIIbetiko wrote:i checked his wiki it said that he plays and always played for the 49s... i don't remember hearing that the 49s ever went to the superbowl since joe montana( check out my sick namedropping!)DoomYoshi wrote:No he isn't. Kaepernick was a quarterback that went to the Superbowl and lost. Then his entire team fell apart and became a dysfunctional mess (with a terrible locker-room culture). None of this may be Kaepernick's fault, but he was there for it. Also another team in their division became supergods for a few seasons (when people were cheering they were causing earthquakes) so they were in a bad spot. Then he got replaced as QB and started kneeling during the national anthem instead of standing.
Interestingly Green Bay doesn't really have a single owner like every other team, rather it's owned by shareholders. It's kind of a novel idea and it's probably the only reason that the team hasn't moved to a larger market. I think I read or heard somewhere that season ticket holders are offered shares, so a large part of the ownership group is in Wisconsin!DoomYoshi wrote:I don't like when people flip the bird to the owners of the Packers though. The last small-town team in any of the big 4 leagues. The last team not owned by a Billionaire (although a few teams are owned by big corporations, Green Bay is unique).
That is kinda cool to know. Good post, mook.mookiemcgee wrote:Interestingly Green Bay doesn't really have a single owner like every other team, rather it's owned by shareholders. It's kind of a novel idea and it's probably the only reason that the team hasn't moved to a larger market. I think I read or heard somewhere that season ticket holders are offered shares, so a large part of the ownership group is in Wisconsin!DoomYoshi wrote:I don't like when people flip the bird to the owners of the Packers though. The last small-town team in any of the big 4 leagues. The last team not owned by a Billionaire (although a few teams are owned by big corporations, Green Bay is unique).
Wikipedia:
"Green Bay Packers, Inc. is the official name of the publicly held nonprofit corporation that owns the Green Bay Packers football franchise of the National Football League (NFL).
The Packers are the only publicly owned franchise in the NFL. Rather than being the property of an individual, partnership, or corporate entity, they are held as of 2016 by 360,760 stockholders. No one is allowed to hold more than 200,000 shares, which represents approximately four percent of the 5,011,558 shares currently outstanding. It is this broad-based community support and non-profit structure which has kept the team in Green Bay for nearly a century in spite of being the smallest market in all of North American professional sports.
Green Bay is the only team with this public form of ownership structure in the NFL, grandfathered when the NFL's current ownership policy stipulating a maximum of 32 owners per team, with one holding a minimum 30% stake, was established in the 1980s. As a publicly held nonprofit, the Packers are also the only American major-league sports franchise to release its financial balance sheet every year. "
While I suspect "the right thing to do" had something to do with it, sometimes the right thing to do follows the making of money. I think Nike saw the potential ability to take market share before they determined this was the right thing to do. But, then, I'm a cynical capitalist.elfish_lad wrote:It’s a solid sports commercial. As said above, well crafted.
Super, super smart by Nike in preparation for a post Pres. Trump America. If and when that happens.
It’s also fun to see a powerful company flip the bird to the owners of the NFL.
Nice.
Meh, Nike is largely a brand nowadays. Their message and their money are inseparable. They don't do things that will hurt either, because it will hurt both.thegreekdog wrote:While I suspect "the right thing to do" had something to do with it, sometimes the right thing to do follows the making of money. I think Nike saw the potential ability to take market share before they determined this was the right thing to do. But, then, I'm a cynical capitalist.elfish_lad wrote:It’s a solid sports commercial. As said above, well crafted.
Super, super smart by Nike in preparation for a post Pres. Trump America. If and when that happens.
It’s also fun to see a powerful company flip the bird to the owners of the NFL.
Nice.
Well, let’s not count the Pack. They are their own awesome thing. I drove down twice from Tbay Ontario to join my friend Dale at Lambeau for a game using tickets that have been in his family for awhile. Awesome.DoomYoshi wrote:I don't like when people flip the bird to the owners of the Packers though. The last small-town team in any of the big 4 leagues. The last team not owned by a Billionaire (although a few teams are owned by big corporations, Green Bay is unique).
Hells yes. Nike wouldn’t do this, no matter religion, politics, stuff that I’m too self-obtuse to see, without running this ten ways to Sunday to be sure they come out on top not matter White, Southern, Weirdo Nike product burners. Hell. There are Nike logos on NFL jerseys... think that they got this figured out?thegreekdog wrote:While I suspect "the right thing to do" had something to do with it, sometimes the right thing to do follows the making of money. I think Nike saw the potential ability to take market share before they determined this was the right thing to do. But, then, I'm a cynical capitalist.elfish_lad wrote:It’s a solid sports commercial. As said above, well crafted.
Super, super smart by Nike in preparation for a post Pres. Trump America. If and when that happens.
It’s also fun to see a powerful company flip the bird to the owners of the NFL.
Nice.
this is exaclty how football clubs work in spain (real madrid, bacelona ect..). basically, "socios" are members and owners of the club with their season tickets, those are passed around from grandpa to son to grandson... and those guys vote for a new president of the club. I think there is like 51% that can always only be for socios and the other 49% is what you can buy or something.mookiemcgee wrote:Interestingly Green Bay doesn't really have a single owner like every other team, rather it's owned by shareholders. It's kind of a novel idea and it's probably the only reason that the team hasn't moved to a larger market. I think I read or heard somewhere that season ticket holders are offered shares, so a large part of the ownership group is in Wisconsin!DoomYoshi wrote:I don't like when people flip the bird to the owners of the Packers though. The last small-town team in any of the big 4 leagues. The last team not owned by a Billionaire (although a few teams are owned by big corporations, Green Bay is unique).
Wikipedia:
"Green Bay Packers, Inc. is the official name of the publicly held nonprofit corporation that owns the Green Bay Packers football franchise of the National Football League (NFL).
The Packers are the only publicly owned franchise in the NFL. Rather than being the property of an individual, partnership, or corporate entity, they are held as of 2016 by 360,760 stockholders. No one is allowed to hold more than 200,000 shares, which represents approximately four percent of the 5,011,558 shares currently outstanding. It is this broad-based community support and non-profit structure which has kept the team in Green Bay for nearly a century in spite of being the smallest market in all of North American professional sports.
Green Bay is the only team with this public form of ownership structure in the NFL, grandfathered when the NFL's current ownership policy stipulating a maximum of 32 owners per team, with one holding a minimum 30% stake, was established in the 1980s. As a publicly held nonprofit, the Packers are also the only American major-league sports franchise to release its financial balance sheet every year. "
