Lotushamster, Helmut Jovan, Mansoo[ES]

[megamega]

Accused:

Lotushammer
Helmut Jovan
Mansoo



The accused are suspected of:

Being Multis


Game number(s):

19912440


Comments:

A three accounts joined on the same date - Jan 7th 2020.

Lotushamster has played 87% of their games with Helmut Jovan
Mansoo has played 50% of their games with Lotus Hamster
77% of Helmut Javan’s games are with Lotushamster
71% of Helmut Javan’s games are with Mansoo


Helmut Jovan has spent the last 10-15 round hitting me randomly for no reason rather than improve their position in the game. Every time they have hit me, it has helped Lotushamster or Mansoo’s position and stopped me from attacking Lotushamster. They have just suicided their whole army into me to help Lotushamster’s position. Lotushamster has clearly been in a better position at points, yet Lotushamster and HJ have maintained 1 troop in their borders and HJ has continued to target me to break my bonus. Added to this, throughout the game, Mansoo has randomly attacked me to break my bonus, even when it does not strengthen their position. The game has now reached a point where HJ’s suicide on me has blocked me from stopping Lotushamster gaining supremacy. Mansoo has ‘faked’ an attack on Lotushamster to make it look like he is now trying to play the game properly.

These three accounts are definitely the same person. I’ve never been more sure of an incident of cheating in this game.

[YukFoo]

Just waiting for them to get "Cleared"...

[Mendies]

"Hey guys, I found a website called conquerclub, it's basically online risk. We should give it a try" This was what my friend Lotushanster told us when he found this site. For the record, Lotushamster, Helmut Jovan. Mansoo, BoneBo and I (Mendies) all joined this year and have been playing with one thing in mind. "Try to kick each others asses and win!"

Megamega my friends even told me about you, "Dude you got to see this grandmaster play, F*ing epic game man!" To bad you had to sour the milk. I see on your ratings there are many people who have rated you and said that you are a sore loser and even called you a cheat. I see why now.

We don't care about the "verdict" of this complaint. You accused my friends (who have been my brothers for the last 20 years) of cheating, you've "never been more sure of an incident of cheating" as you say. I'm here to tell you that you're wrong and to tell you to get a life you child!!

To all uses: if you have played in a game with us and believed that we were colluding all I can say is that we never have. It's been every man for themselves! This is a great game and we've really enjoyed it.

I'm not going to respond to comments after this, I've said my piece. Hasta la victoria siempre!

[Nut Shot Scott]

"Hey guys, I found a website called conquerclub, it's basically online risk. We should give it a try" This was what my friend Lotushanster told us when he found this site. For the record, Lotushamster, Helmut Jovan. Mansoo, BoneBo and I (Mendies) all joined this year and have been playing with one thing in mind. "Try to kick each others asses and win!"

Megamega my friends even told me about you, "Dude you got to see this grandmaster play, F*ing epic game man!" To bad you had to sour the milk. I see on your ratings there are many people who have rated you and said that you are a sore loser and even called you a cheat. I see why now.

We don't care about the "verdict" of this complaint. You accused my friends (who have been my brothers for the last 20 years) of cheating, you've "never been more sure of an incident of cheating" as you say. I'm here to tell you that you're wrong and to tell you to get a life you child!!

To all uses: if you have played in a game with us and believed that we were colluding all I can say is that we never have. It's been every man for themselves! This is a great game and we've really enjoyed it.

I'm not going to respond to comments after this, I've said my piece. Hasta la victoria siempre!

[Shannon Apple]

"Hey guys, I found a website called conquerclub, it's basically online risk. We should give it a try" This was what my friend Lotushanster told us when he found this site. For the record, Lotushamster, Helmut Jovan. Mansoo, BoneBo and I (Mendies) all joined this year and have been playing with one thing in mind. "Try to kick each others asses and win!"

Megamega my friends even told me about you, "Dude you got to see this grandmaster play, F*ing epic game man!" To bad you had to sour the milk. I see on your ratings there are many people who have rated you and said that you are a sore loser and even called you a cheat. I see why now.

We don't care about the "verdict" of this complaint. You accused my friends (who have been my brothers for the last 20 years) of cheating, you've "never been more sure of an incident of cheating" as you say. I'm here to tell you that you're wrong and to tell you to get a life you child!!

To all uses: if you have played in a game with us and believed that we were colluding all I can say is that we never have. It's been every man for themselves! This is a great game and we've really enjoyed it.

I'm not going to respond to comments after this, I've said my piece. Hasta la victoria siempre!

Maybe that's true among the 5 of you, but there's a clear bias toward strangers in your games, even if it isn't collusion in the traditional sense. I have looked at your game history. Each time you play with your friends + other people, one of you wins. Out of all the games the group played with other people, there have only been TWO games where one of the group did not win. That's disproportionate and wouldn't happen this way if the 5 of you did not know each other.

The fairest thing is to play 5 player games with just the 5 of you, or when there are only 3 or 4, play triples or quads games. This way, you are genuinely kicking everyone's ass in the game without bias.

[megamega]

The point is that if you are all friends, you communicate outside the game. This is clearly what happened in my game. Every time one of you got into a position of advantage, another of your ‘friends’ would hit me or block me. Ultimately, as I was close to moving into a position of strength, one of your ‘friends’ just suicided 100+ troops into me to ensure that your other friends could win.

The bottom line is that 99% of experienced players on here would not enter a game where 5 or 6 players who are ‘friends’ in the outside world were playing there. The potential for bias and outside collusion is great. I utterly resent wasting 50 rounds of my time playing a rigged game. If you ‘friends’ want to play together then you should only play with each other and not in games with players who will lose by playing a rigged game. I can’t believe that none of you can see that.

My rep is nothing to do with this and I don’t need to defend myself here.

[Mansoo]

Megamega - you have Dishonored me... I hereby challenge you to a duel!

[YukFoo]

Either gangbangers, or a dirty multi for sure. The effect is the same.

I got $1000 says they all get cleared and allowed to continue to play with maybe a slap on their shared pee-pee.

[Mansoo]

Honestly no collusion - love the sport of the game.(for what that's worth) my challenge stands

[Mansoo]

Lowbrow tactics Megamega - whinging consistently and quiting a game - AFTER 50 rounds and vowing not to continue because you were loosing to new players, timing out twice - then striking as we thinned out completing the game. Classy move.

[Nut Shot Scott]

Your buddy is the one who claimed he was some kind of grandmaster. That's debatable but, what did you expect?

[Hooch]

https://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=19912440
Always a risky move joining games inhabited by cooks and privates.

Not very classy missing two turns in this game but seemingly being able to make turns in other games.

Seems like great tactics now, especially when if these two work out they need to just go all out on you, then you can say see, they were teaming up on me all along.

[Evil Semp]

The accused are CLEARED of being multis.

Helmut Jovan has spent the last 10-15 round hitting me

When you made you complaint you were in about round 45. I went back to round 30. Unless I counted wrong Helmut only attacked you about 6 times. Some of those attacks were to retake a territory that you took from him.

[megamega]

This is why I’m not renewing my premium. They’ve even admitted to all ‘being friends’ outside - secret diplomacy at the very least. I appreciate it takes time to read through a game log but you didn’t see what actually happened. Jovan repeatedly suicided large numbers of troops against me, used his army to stop me from hitting his ‘friend’ in order to protect him. Then suicided the rest of his army against me to give lotushamster an advantage. It is sad really as I’ve played this game for years and never really come across such an organised group joining games together.

[zeus111]

This is why I’m not renewing my premium. They’ve even admitted to all ‘being friends’ outside - secret diplomacy at the very least. I appreciate it takes time to read through a game log but you didn’t see what actually happened. Jovan repeatedly suicided large numbers of troops against me, used his army to stop me from hitting his ‘friend’ in order to protect him. Then suicided the rest of his army against me to give lotushamster an advantage. It is sad really as I’ve played this game for years and never really come across such an organised group joining games together.

u listed one game and accused them of multis ...they are cleared as multis but if you feel like they are joining as a team teaming up go through games history . re post it under secrect diplomacy but list more then one game , good catch i say at least you warned us if we join a game we are playing one vs 3 ,dont let this deter ya from going premium m8 just click foe and play on the vast majority all play fair and honest in multi player games . expose the players like this who play as a team and soon they will not be able to play with each other if it persists.




zeus111

[ZaBeast]

I don't think the mods can look at anything else other than the game log to see the evolution of the game. So if you want to post evidence of them suiciding on your stacks you should probably post snaps