COVID-19 TRUTH

[armati]

Its funny how many people have the "truth" about covid.

A quick skim of this thread tells me most here think covid is deadly and are for the vaccine .
Another blog I am on figures the vaccine is not a good thing.

I will be taking the vaccine, even if it means the lizard people will take control of my brains.
Maybe they already have and thats why Im taking the vaccine. hmmmm

[Jdsizzleslice]

Its funny how many people have the "truth" about covid.

A quick skim of this thread tells me most here think covid is deadly and are for the vaccine .
Another blog I am on figures the vaccine is not a good thing.

I will be taking the vaccine, even if it means the lizard people will take control of my brains.
Maybe they already have and thats why Im taking the vaccine. hmmmm

How effective do you think the COVID-19 vaccine will be?

[jimboston]

Its funny how many people have the "truth" about covid.

A quick skim of this thread tells me most here think covid is deadly and are for the vaccine .
Another blog I am on figures the vaccine is not a good thing.

I will be taking the vaccine, even if it means the lizard people will take control of my brains.
Maybe they already have and thats why Im taking the vaccine. hmmmm

I wouldn’t trust the consensus of either forum. Rather trust your doctor and medical experts.

[jimboston]

Its funny how many people have the "truth" about covid.

A quick skim of this thread tells me most here think covid is deadly and are for the vaccine .
Another blog I am on figures the vaccine is not a good thing.

I will be taking the vaccine, even if it means the lizard people will take control of my brains.
Maybe they already have and thats why Im taking the vaccine. hmmmm

How effective do you think the COVID-19 vaccine will be?

They’re reporting 90+ percent.
So that’s where I’m betting.

Of course the vaccine was rushed at “Warp Speed” so there’s more potential for problems...
I expect those will be figured out in the coming months. Since I don’t into any of the early
recipient categories I won’t worry about it till March-May when it becomes available for me.

Then I’ll look at the scientific data, and take the advice of medical experts.

You’re welcome to listen to Q if you prefer.

[mookiemcgee]

Its funny how many people have the "truth" about covid.

A quick skim of this thread tells me most here think covid is deadly and are for the vaccine .
Another blog I am on figures the vaccine is not a good thing.

I will be taking the vaccine, even if it means the lizard people will take control of my brains.
Maybe they already have and thats why Im taking the vaccine. hmmmm

So I think the general argument (in case some of you haven't heard this yet) against the vaccine is that we are in this so far, and so much of the the US population has already been exposed that it might make more sense to adopt the herd immunity philosophy and 'let it play out' now. It would mean more deaths in the short term, but longer term it could result (there are no guarantees) in humanity become entirely resistant all on our own where enough people have the anitbodies it just doesn't get passed around anymore. If say 50% of the population takes the vaccine they would become temporarily resistant, but maybe next year they catch it and it just keeps spreading on and on slowly and we just never get rid of it. Now that wouldn't really be an issue if 95% of the population took the vaccine, but we probably aren't going to force people to take it and we could end up in longer more drawn out mess.

I think it's an argument with alot of merit, but I'm not necessarily 100% either way. This was handled so poorly for so long, and spread so far I don't think there are any 100% clear answers anymore.

[Jdsizzleslice]

So I think the general argument (in case some of you haven't heard this yet) against the vaccine is that we are in this so far, and so much of the the US population has already been exposed that it might make more sense to adopt the herd immunity philosophy and 'let it play out' now. It would mean more deaths in the short term, but longer term it could result (there are no guarantees) in humanity become entirely resistant all on our own where enough people have the anitbodies it just doesn't get passed around anymore. If say 50% of the population takes the vaccine they would become temporarily resistant, but maybe next year they catch it and it just keeps spreading on and on slowly and we just never get rid of it. Now that wouldn't really be an issue if 95% of the population took the vaccine, but we probably aren't going to force people to take it and we could end up in longer more drawn out mess.

I think it's an argument with alot of merit, but I'm not necessarily 100% either way. This was handled so poorly for so long, and spread so far I don't think there are any 100% clear answers anymore.

We also have to consider that the vaccine may not be 100% effective. The influenza vaccine has only averaged a 40% effectiveness percentage over the past 15 years, so purely relying on a vaccine to cure COVID-19 would be just plain foolish, as I am sure you are aware. I do think that we need a vaccine developed for use for those who have existing conditions or for those who choose to get it (which is basically where we are partially headed).

Herd immunity is a great long-term solution but it presents a problem for those who cannot risk catching COVID-19 in the immediate (A.K.A., people with existing conditions). We need the option, but a vaccine is only one aspect in dealing with COVID-19, or any virus for that matter. But there is a decent amount we can already do right now to protect the vulnerable and allow healthy individuals to return to their normal lives.

[mookiemcgee]

So I think the general argument (in case some of you haven't heard this yet) against the vaccine is that we are in this so far, and so much of the the US population has already been exposed that it might make more sense to adopt the herd immunity philosophy and 'let it play out' now. It would mean more deaths in the short term, but longer term it could result (there are no guarantees) in humanity become entirely resistant all on our own where enough people have the anitbodies it just doesn't get passed around anymore. If say 50% of the population takes the vaccine they would become temporarily resistant, but maybe next year they catch it and it just keeps spreading on and on slowly and we just never get rid of it. Now that wouldn't really be an issue if 95% of the population took the vaccine, but we probably aren't going to force people to take it and we could end up in longer more drawn out mess.

I think it's an argument with alot of merit, but I'm not necessarily 100% either way. This was handled so poorly for so long, and spread so far I don't think there are any 100% clear answers anymore.

We also have to consider that the vaccine may not be 100% effective. The influenza vaccine has only averaged a 40% effectiveness percentage over the past 15 years, so purely relying on a vaccine to cure COVID-19 would be just plain foolish, as I am sure you are aware. I do think that we need a vaccine developed for use for those who have existing conditions or for those who choose to get it (which is basically where we are partially headed).

Herd immunity is a great long-term solution but it presents a problem for those who cannot risk catching COVID-19 in the immediate (A.K.A., people with existing conditions). We need the option, but a vaccine is only one aspect in dealing with COVID-19, or any virus for that matter. But there is a decent amount we can already do right now to protect the vulnerable and allow healthy individuals to return to their normal lives.

I agree, we need a vaccine immediate for the most at risk. It's good that it's here, and it's good the at risk are getting it first.

I do think that while it is early data, the Covid vaccine is way more effective than the flu vaccines we see. Partially it's virus structure, partially its because its a newer virus with fewer mutations (they aren't having to guess at which variation is going to spread this year like the do with flu), but I mean the trails weren't tiny (50,000-100,000 people I believe) and it showed 95% effectivness.... now 5-10 year from now? Who knows right, it could start coming back differently every year (though herd immunity wouldn't truly protect you from this either). It's so easily spread, I think its realistic to believe it won't just disappear or be fully eradicated ever even with a 100% perfect vaccine (cus some people somewhere on the globe just wont take it and will keep spreading/mutating/surviving)

[2dimes]

If you are in Dubai you can go to the opera and see John Cleese.

https://www.dubaiopera.com/events/monty ... ohn-cleese


I post this because I am wondering how Covid is progressing in Dubai?

I hope to read your opinions later and I might google it also. Part of the humour in the title of Mr. Cleese's shows are references to his age and how he is still alive.

He must be confident he can perform this show without getting the virus.

[jimboston]

Its funny how many people have the "truth" about covid.

A quick skim of this thread tells me most here think covid is deadly and are for the vaccine .
Another blog I am on figures the vaccine is not a good thing.

I will be taking the vaccine, even if it means the lizard people will take control of my brains.
Maybe they already have and thats why Im taking the vaccine. hmmmm

So I think the general argument (in case some of you haven't heard this yet) against the vaccine is that we are in this so far, and so much of the the US population has already been exposed that it might make more sense to adopt the herd immunity philosophy and 'let it play out' now. It would mean more deaths in the short term, but longer term it could result (there are no guarantees) in humanity become entirely resistant all on our own where enough people have the anitbodies it just doesn't get passed around anymore. If say 50% of the population takes the vaccine they would become temporarily resistant, but maybe next year they catch it and it just keeps spreading on and on slowly and we just never get rid of it. Now that wouldn't really be an issue if 95% of the population took the vaccine, but we probably aren't going to force people to take it and we could end up in longer more drawn out mess.

I think it's an argument with alot of merit, but I'm not necessarily 100% either way. This was handled so poorly for so long, and spread so far I don't think there are any 100% clear answers anymore.

My understanding is that there’s no consensus that natural herd immunity is a thing; if anything the experts are leaning towards a belief that herd immunity isn’t gonna work for this virus.

You are right that we don’t know yet how long the vaccine will provide protection. It’s possible we’d need boosters. We won’t know.

I’m gonna go with the advice of medical experts.

[jimboston]

So I think the general argument (in case some of you haven't heard this yet) against the vaccine is that we are in this so far, and so much of the the US population has already been exposed that it might make more sense to adopt the herd immunity philosophy and 'let it play out' now. It would mean more deaths in the short term, but longer term it could result (there are no guarantees) in humanity become entirely resistant all on our own where enough people have the anitbodies it just doesn't get passed around anymore. If say 50% of the population takes the vaccine they would become temporarily resistant, but maybe next year they catch it and it just keeps spreading on and on slowly and we just never get rid of it. Now that wouldn't really be an issue if 95% of the population took the vaccine, but we probably aren't going to force people to take it and we could end up in longer more drawn out mess.

I think it's an argument with alot of merit, but I'm not necessarily 100% either way. This was handled so poorly for so long, and spread so far I don't think there are any 100% clear answers anymore.

We also have to consider that the vaccine may not be 100% effective. The influenza vaccine has only averaged a 40% effectiveness percentage over the past 15 years, so purely relying on a vaccine to cure COVID-19 would be just plain foolish, as I am sure you are aware. I do think that we need a vaccine developed for use for those who have existing conditions or for those who choose to get it (which is basically where we are partially headed).

Herd immunity is a great long-term solution but it presents a problem for those who cannot risk catching COVID-19 in the immediate (A.K.A., people with existing conditions). We need the option, but a vaccine is only one aspect in dealing with COVID-19, or any virus for that matter. But there is a decent amount we can already do right now to protect the vulnerable and allow healthy individuals to return to their normal lives.

The expert has spoken.

I have no fucking clue where you get your “facts”.

[jimboston]

If you are in Dubai you can go to the opera and see John Cleese.

https://www.dubaiopera.com/events/monty ... ohn-cleese


I post this because I am wondering how Covid is progressing in Dubai?

I hope to read your opinions later and I might google it also. Part of the humour in the title of Mr. Cleese's shows are references to his age and how he is still alive.

He must be confident he can perform this show without getting the virus.

From the link...

SAFETY MEASURES - COVID 19
Wearing a face mask is mandatory at all times even inside the auditorium, gloves are optional.
We have limited our seating capacity to maintain social distancing within the auditorium.
Buying tickets online is recommended.
Please choose mobile ticket or e-ticket delivery method.
The maximum number of seats that can be selected online is up to 4 seats. Please email boxoffice@dubaiopera.com if your group is larger.
Please make your seat selection strictly based on your group size (1, 2, 3 or 4). Please ensure no empty seat remains next to your selection.
Social distancing will be maintained inside the auditorium, please sit in your assigned seat only.
Families are allowed to sit together (a maximum of 4 people).
Compliance with the stated safety measures is legally required in all areas within the venue.

[2dimes]

Yeah, I realize at the Dubai Opera they are reducing capacity and taking measures to ensure more thorough cleaning...

If you come to Canada, the requirement was you need to either, quarentine for two weeks or get tested, quarentine and get tested a second time and continue to quarentine until you are cleared by the second result.

Our small venue comedy clubs here were opened for a few months at reduced capacity, tables were rearranged to be distanced from other tables. Then they closed again maybe in October.

There has been an increase of cases, that means..
Public meetings and even going to private homes was restricted again last month and could result in a fine. As of midnight Saturday December 12th, eating in restarurants has been suspended again.

Concerts and other performances with larger audiences had not resumed since March.