Today in Isr**li atrocities

[bigtoughralf]

In disturbances in Jerusalem earlier today, an 11 year-old girl was hospitalized after Israeli stormtroopers shot her with a stun grenade:

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_ ... n-grenade/

At the same time a 12 year-old girl was brutally beaten by 5 riot police while their comrades held back the onlooking crowd of middle aged women and children with batons and more stun grenades:

https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnewsvideo ... l_in_east/

The Zionists have really fucked up here. Just watch western nations roll their Russian sanctions over and apply them to Isr**l too!

[saxitoxin]

Ummmm ... you're sorta starting to veer into my lane.

[riskllama]

sorta starting to?

[bigtoughralf]

Ummmm ... you're sorta starting to veer into my lane.

Just preparing for your inevitable incarceration when the FBI finds a jpeg of a bottle of vodka on your hard drive.

[saxitoxin]

Ummmm ... you're sorta starting to veer into my lane.

Just preparing for your inevitable incarceration when the FBI finds a jpeg of a bottle of vodka on your hard drive.

I mean I knew what was on my hard drive would get me in trouble eventually, but I didn't think it would be for that.

[bigtoughralf]

I feel uncomfortable thinking about the contents of your hard drive tbh. Gonna go back to thinking about something more pleasant, like being kicked in the balls.

[saxitoxin]

I feel uncomfortable thinking about the contents of your hard drive tbh. Gonna go back to thinking about something more pleasant, like being kicked in the balls.

Ironically, videos of people getting kicked in the balls are what's on my hard drive.










HOME VIDEOS.

[bigtoughralf]

You are 100% the most likely CC member to be paying hookers to tie you up and whip your nut sack. 100%.

Anyway, back on topic, pressure has today been mounting on Israel following yesterday's videos of its stormtroopers shooting and beating primary school-aged girls:

The former captain of the Egypt national football team, Mohamed Aboutrika has hit out at FIFA for failing to take action on Israel after they banned Russia from all competitions.

He said: “The decision to suspend Russian clubs and teams from all competitions must be accompanied by a ban on those affiliated with Israel, which has been killing children and women in Palestine for years. You’re using double standards.”

https://tribuna.com/en/news/football-20 ... ldren-and/

[jusplay4fun]

Palestinian Leaders use their people to protect their bombs and armaments. Israelis use their armaments (and those from the USA) to protect their people. Who has the better standard? .....hmmmm.......

And Palestinians kill no Israeli civilians, with their rockets smuggled into Palestine? RIGHT, ralf?

ralf's true Anti-Isreali stripes are showing now. As if any of us had any Doubts.

I read today the Yasser Arafat may have been poisoned by Polonium-209. That is a very odd poison to use. Who would do such a thing? As someone who teaches Chemistry, I find such a fact both interesting, and disturbing.

Let me get back to the Real International Crisis, about Ukraine, not the fake news that ralf is trying to Peddle.

[bigtoughralf]

A member of Ireland's parliament has just blasted the Irish government over their enthusiastic endorsement of the sanctions against Russia but simultaneous refusal to take similar measures against Israel's brutal apartheid and genocide against the Palestinian people:

https://twitter.com/RBoydBarrett/status ... 8802406402

Maybe Ireland's sellout Thatcherite FFFG ministers like playing poodle to the White House but the Irish people understand all too well what it's like to suffer at the boot of an invader, and they stand with the Palestinian people.

[riskllama]

that’s a nice mural.

[JdeV 100]

It's urgent to resolve, but how come this is your response to Ukraine, and for that matter Syria? Does the Kremlin pay you? Look.

Estimates of the total number of deaths in the Syrian Civil War, by opposition activist groups, vary between 494,438 and about 606,000 as of June 2021.

PALESTINE: 1948-2021 31,227 fatalities.

Russia itself is wiping out whole communities a few miles northeast of Israel but you don't notice - you want to talk about a conflict that has killed 31,000 Muslims since 1948, because it's easy to spread hatred of Jews, and pleases you, and then your neighbours will approve.

[bigtoughralf]

Russia itself is wiping out whole communities a few miles northeast of Israel but you don't notice

I literally acknowledged the Russia-Ukraine conflict in the OP of this thread (here) as well as recently starting a thread about that conflict (here). Are you one of these people who thinks someone is only paying attention to Ukraine if they post 500 Ukraine flags on social media per day?

Back on topic, this thread is about Israel's brutal oppression of Palestine and the Palestinian people.

you want to talk about a conflict that has killed 31,000 Muslims since 1948, because it's easy to spread hatred of Jews

Oh yes, the old 'if you ever say anything negative about Israel you are an anti-Semite'. I'd have thought even you could do better than that.

[JdeV 100]

"The old..." Don't you hear what you've done? You are not hearing genuine opinions, and you don't care who you hurt. The conversation about Putin's brutality, everywhere, is even more urgent, and you are joining in Kremlin agitprop with antisemites, because it suits your anti-Zionism, because you are not all that refined. ftr if there's a serious conversation about Palestinian statehood and peace I'm up for it, just not this Kremlin agitprop.

[bigtoughralf]

"The old..." Don't you hear what you've done? You are not hearing genuine opinions

You calling me an anti-Semite because I posted in protest against small girls being shot and beaten up is not a genuine opinion.

[bigtoughralf]

So in summary, the reasons we've had in this thread for tolerating Israel's treatment of Palestine are:

- Palestine started it/deserves it (jp4)
- Opposing Israel's behaviour is anti-Semitic (JdeV)
- It is only possible to oppose one injustice at a time, and this month's injustice is Ukraine (jp4 + JdeV)

So far as mental gymnastics goes, both of you are currently struggling to qualify for the Paralympics.

How about we start with a simple question: are either of you prepared to condemn the actions of Israel's security forces documented in my OP?

[JdeV 100]

Of course. The other reason you may be just another Kremlinbot unclear who it works for, is the way you argue. Deflecting with insults. My point is the incident in Jerusalem, and the whole conflict, are very small fry right now, and it has become a meme on Twitter to say, oh you care about Ukraine but look at this incident in Jerusalem. But if you are a Kremlinbot you will not be worth further discussion.

[bigtoughralf]

Of course.

Good, so you have joined this thread to agree that Israel's oppression of Palestinians is disgusting.

My point is the incident in Jerusalem, and the whole conflict, are very small fry right now

It is truly a blessing for you that the suffering in Palestine has no impact on your life, mashallah you live in good health and security, but with all due respect the suffering of 5 million Palestinians doesn't stop just because some TikTok influencer is telling people to go book Air BnB flats in Kiev.

[JdeV 100]

with all due respect the suffering of 5 million Palestinians doesn't stop just because some TikTok influencer is telling people to go book Air BnB flats in Kiev.

Feel the caring.

[jusplay4fun]

JdeV, I realized a long time ago that it is best to ignore ralf.

I think you are on to something, though. Perhaps ralf is JUST a bot. His arguments certainly hold no water and he can barely do so himself.

[bigtoughralf]

2 votes for 'sanction Russia but not Israel' so far. I wonder which two CC posters could possibly have cast those votes??????

[JdeV 100]

It's 3. I'll make it 4.

[jusplay4fun]

For the Record, I do not vote in most polls, especially those done by ralf the bot and by saxi the troll. Another FAILED post by ralf.

[Dukasaur]

I see swickdick has changed the wording of the poll. Such as sad little saxi-imitator.

[bigtoughralf]

Meh. No one has yet to provide any other explanation for why Ukraine deserves this response but Palestine doesn't.