Israel

[Votanic]

It is like some people might be furious growing up in concentration camps and treated as subhuman.

If only they would accept their lot and not turn into bloody terrorists.

And those other people whose families are attacked by violent terrorists not calmly responding with rational peaceful solutions. Who could have predicted that?

It's like totally war, or something.

[mookiemcgee]

Mostly right now, my main question is
"How did the most fortified border in the world get breached by guys flying on lawn chairs attached to balloons and literally horse drawn buggies"

https://www.tiktok.com/@abu_wadie_alkas ... gaCMmtgFsH

So much for that $38 billion we gave them for defense.
https://sgp.fas.org/crs/mideast/RL33222.pdf

Sadly much of our funding of the Iron Dome was undercut when Trump gave Russia classified info on how to circumvent it, Russia then gave it to Iran, who gave it to Hamas. We probably wouldn't be having this 'renewal' of aggressions around this conflict if we hadn't elected a traitor in 2016. Hamas attacks via flying lawn chairs are considered less effective than rocket attacks by most observers (also your link was broken which is sad cus i really wanted to see the flying lawn chair attacks).

[Votanic]

Trump gave Russia classified info on how to circumvent it, Russia then gave it to Iran, who gave it to Hamas.

You're thinking of herpes.

[Lonous]

(also your link was broken which is sad cus i really wanted to see the flying lawn chair attacks).

Gah, they removed the video.
Apologies.
Anyone see the horses before they took the vid down?
It was a sight. Show horse, or at least a very decorative harness with colored tassels taking a buggy full of Hamas across no man's land.

[Votanic]

(also your link was broken which is sad cus i really wanted to see the flying lawn chair attacks).

Gah, they removed the video.
Apologies.
Anyone see the horses before they took the vid down?
It was a sight. Show horse, or at least a very decorative harness with colored tassels taking a buggy full of Hamas across no man's land.

Hey? what group controlling the media removed that video??

[saxitoxin]

Mostly right now, my main question is
"How did the most fortified border in the world get breached by guys flying on lawn chairs attached to balloons and literally horse drawn buggies"

https://www.tiktok.com/@abu_wadie_alkas ... gaCMmtgFsH

So much for that $38 billion we gave them for defense.
https://sgp.fas.org/crs/mideast/RL33222.pdf

Sadly much of our funding of the Iron Dome was undercut when Trump gave Russia classified info on how to circumvent it, Russia then gave it to Iran, who gave it to Hamas.

LOL I read a funny response to this conspiracy theory the other week, I need to find it. I think this was one of the conspiracy theories Keith Olbermann comes up with where he holds the camera six inches from his face and screams some wild allegation into it ("TRUMP SECRETLY GAVE MISSILE TECH TO PUTIN, WHO SECRETLY GAVE IT TO THE AYATOLLAH, WHO SECRETLY GAVE IT TO HAMAS!"). But I can't recall. I'll look for it.

[saxitoxin]

I take it back! It was Thom Hartmann who came up with the conspiracy theory, not Keith Olbermann! (Trump gave missile secrets to Putin in the men's room at the G20, Putin then passed it on to the Ayatollah in a secret meet-up at an Applebee's in Kuala Lampur, the Ayatollah then sent them to Hamas via messenger pigeon.)

It's so tinfoil hat that even the Lincoln Project won't touch it.

https://twitter.com/Thom_Hartmann/statu ... 3465933217

And is doubly funny considering Hartmann used to be a paid employee of the Russian Federation as a host of show on Russia Today.

[Dukasaur]

The Zionist Project has just bombed the last Christian hospital in Gaza.

Extremely unlikely. They'd have nothing to gain by it.

https://apnews.com/article/israel-pales ... 9cab95b80c

In a briefing with reporters, the chief army spokesman, Rear Adm. Daniel Hagari, said the army determined there were no air force, ground or naval attacks in the area at the time of the blast. He said radar detected outgoing rocket fire at the same moment, and intercepted communications between militant groups indicated that Islamic Jihad fired the rockets.

Hagari also shared aerial footage collected by a military drone that showed a blast that he said was inconsistent with Israeli weaponry. He said the explosion occurred in the building’s parking lot.

Sacrificing a few hundred of their own citizens for a propaganda moment has Hamas written all over it.

[ConfederateSS]

--------Story Time...
---------The Israelis and Palestinians are blaming each other for the Hospital attack, accident or not...
--------- It reminds me of The 5 O'clock Charlie, M.A.S.H. episode....
--------- A North Korean Pilot , Flying an old WW2 plane, single wings...Not like WW1 Bi-planes...But he would have a bomb like WW1 , were they would just throw the bomb out of the plane, like theirs...His plane had no cover over the seat etc...
-------- An American General, put an Ammo Dump next to The M.A.S.H. 4077th Hospital...
-------- Everyday around 5 O'clock the North Korean would fly , plane sputtering all the way , flying low through the air...Throw one bomb out of the plane, never coming close...to the Ammo Dump...
-------- The M.A.S.H. gang would start taking bets, on if this was the day he would hit the Ammo Dump...Well all but one, Major Burns. Begged and Begged for a AA gun...
--------- Finally the General was in the area, visiting The M.A.S.H. 4077th...It's around 5 O'clock, yes , you guessed it...5 O'clock Charlie throws a bomb out of the plane... BOOM, just as the General was walking away from his jeep...The jeep is hit and explodes...The General tells Lt.Col. Henry Blake...,"YOU GOT YOUR AA GUN!!!!"...Frank Burns takes a make shit group of Army slack offs to train and man the GUN....Hawkeye and Trapper end up pouring , ironically mortar down the barrel... Because, the gun would be a Hospital target...
----------- This is the best part...... Hawkeye asks the General, "Why did you put Ammo Dump near the Hospital???"...
----------- The General answers,"Oh, That...Well we learned that trick of putting Ammo Dumps near Hospitals...From The Germans(WW2)..."
----------- Hawkeye turns to the gang, "Great Now we are taking tips from the losers... "...
----------- Near the end , 5 O'clock Charlie comes , following Big Arrows made from hospital sheets(Hawkeye & Trapper)...to the dump...Frank tries to shoot him down, then realizes his AA gun has been turned into a statue...5 O'clock Charlie hits the Ammo Dump...Radar speaks on the camp loud speaker...Away into the Sunset goes 5 O'clock Charlie.... Hawkeye & Trapper walk through the camp , counting money...

---------- The Germans in WW1 sank the passenger Liner, The Lusitania, because they thought it was carrying weapons,etc...Which it was, the way it exploded...Sending America into WW1....
---------- As people go back an forth on the Gaza Hospital...Blame each other for the attack, accident or not...Are the Israelis,others, sure weapons were not in or near the Hospital...It has been done before???...I don't know how far Israeli troops are in Gaza... They probably want to check on that...On the border just inside The Gaza Strip...A Hugh stock pile of rockets , other explosives, most home made , were found...These weapon stock piles...Are going to be all over Gaza... Everywhere...Yes, the Hospital most likely...... ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)...

[Lonous]

Confed I give your posts a chance and a read, I really do try and understand them mate.

Are you suggesting there was an ammo dump in or near the hospital that got hit and exploded?
Not a horrible guess, but that isn't what the video showed.
It was one massive rolling explosion. A pile of munitions would have been a series of consecutive explosions.
Even at a high rate of speed, the individual booms even if exploding concurrently, would have been able to be identified visually in the video.

Israel is blaming it on Hamas ofcourse.
However the one thing that both sides agree on is that Hamas has fired thousands of rockets into Israel since this all started.
Israel can get me to consider their argument valid if they can show one other example of this type of damage from a Hamas rocket.
They have thousands of chances to do this.
Just one single example of this type of damage that has been done by any of those thousands of rockets.

Thus far, they have not.

[GaryDenton]

Rear Adm. Daniel Hagari lied.

All Arab nations canceled their meetings with Biden after the IDF attacked the hospital causing 500+ casualties. Israel provided many lies regarding this, most deleted. Unfortunately for them, the sound in the videos as well as the clear evidence showed it was one JDAM, which only Israel has, provided by the US, and only one explosion, not munitions that were hit going off. HAMAS does not have weapons that can do that much damage causing hundreds of casualties.

Breaking - Israeli TV admitting it was their bomb.

Ohad Hemo, Israeli TV's Palestinian Affairs reporter, admits Israel is responsible for last night's bombing of the #BaptistHospital in Gaza resulting in hundreds of civilian casualties.

[GaryDenton]

The head of the hospital says they were warned by the IDF before the attack.

https://x.com/jacksonhinklle/status/171 ... 30956?s=20

[HitRed]

[Pack Rat]

Once again, we have people posting misinformation...whether it's about baby beheadings or who hit the hospital.

Let's relax before smashing your fingers to push your ideological thoughts.

We are now aware that it was not IDF who fired that rocket.

[Lonous]

'explosion'
Not rocket, not confirmed.

[Pack Rat]

'explosion'
Not rocket, not confirmed.

Rocket with explosion

Over 450 rockets launched by Hamas and another affiliated terrorist organization fell short. The blast was caused by a failed rocket launch by the Palestinian Islamic Jihad.

[Lonous]

18 sec video for you at moment of impact. This is a reframed version of a longer video, done to center the hospital area for viewers.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1714567002180767800

You can see the Hamas rockets launching to the bottom right.
Then as the explosion happens mid screen at the hospital, in the upper left you can see a jet popping flares after its bombing run, to evade any man fired anti air missiles.

Perhaps it was an Israeli jet trying to hit those rockets and it missed?
Perhaps it intended to hit the hospital?
Perhaps it part of a secret Hamas air force group that they have kept secret from everyone, and decided to bomb themselves?

Perhaps

[saxitoxin]

The head of the hospital says they were warned by the IDF before the attack.

https://x.com/jacksonhinklle/status/171 ... 30956?s=20

Momentary divergence ...

For all Gary's ranting about Russian disinformation, I find it funny that he's citing Jackson Hinkle as a source.

[Pack Rat]

Here's some clarity



If this was a missile launched by Israel, a crater would be visible. As you can see the parking lot was hit, not directly on the hospital.


These cheap and unreliable rockets launched by Hamas and Islamic Jihad, have been hitting Israel and Gaza itself. Sort of like bottle rockets we buy to celebrate occasions and you risk having them hit yourself or guests.

[Pack Rat]

The head of the hospital says they were warned by the IDF before the attack.

https://x.com/jacksonhinklle/status/171 ... 30956?s=20

Momentary divergence ...

For all Gary's ranting about Russian disinformation, I find it funny that he's citing Jackson Hinkle as a source.

Not sure why GaryDenton would use Jackson Hinkle as a reliable source for news. Perhaps Hamas, has temporarily highjacked his account?

[Lonous]

Click image to enlarge.

*Bottle rockets*

[Votanic]

Dear Hamas:

All this teasing about your little rockets is not going to stop.
It's time you seriously look into your rocket enlargement options.

[bigtoughralf]

And now everyone's having armchair expert arguments about what shape explosion demolished a Gazan hospital, rather than talking about the 3.5k and counting Gazans who have been killed in Israeli strikes on civilian populations.

[Pack Rat]

And now everyone's having armchair expert arguments about what shape explosion demolished a Gazan hospital, rather than talking about the 3.5k and counting Gazans who have been killed in Israeli strikes on civilian populations.

The hospital was not demolished, but some of the cars in the parking lot suffered damages. The 500 killed in the hospital is greatly exaggerated.

[saxitoxin]

And now everyone's having armchair expert arguments about what shape explosion demolished a Gazan hospital, rather than talking about the 3.5k and counting Gazans who have been killed in Israeli strikes on civilian populations.

I'M SORRY we're not satisfying you Ralf.

Jesus, this guy.