Soaps Role Madness 2! Town wins!

[strike wolf]

Congrats town. I didn't read anything.

[Charle]

Congratz town!

Thanks for hosting DDS, was fun.

Who host the next one?

[Ragian]

I especially like my protecting Loose that found him guilty

Our mod is on something

Cheers for hosting. Pity about Vot. That could've changed the game.

[Ragian]

FYI, my tactics as doc (who is unable to protect oneself) is always to play slightly scummily so that scum will want to keep me alive.

[DirtyDishSoap]

I especially like my protecting Loose that found him guilty

Our mod is on something

Cheers for hosting. Pity about Vot. That could've changed the game.

Guilty was meant for the prosecute vote you dry turkey!

[Extreme Ways]

Yeah, game becomes a lot closer if we dont find the arsonist for free. Town had a lot of ways to disrupt and/or kill scum. I think Godfather doesn't do enough to protect against all the various ways town can find them. I guess with the amount of kill potential, investigatives and protectors you may get infighting such as me not believing Rag/Kong can coexist together (and Rag evidently thinking the same).

I think my role is the biggest problem - tracker, jack, cop all get to do a night action but GF doesn't, and roleblocker can at most nullify a town night action. The most simple nudge would be to change it to Party Host, which does about the same but doesn't give town an opportunity to kill the defendant.

Another good shout is Revenant, still a power role but just means I bleed out instead of dying directly. Or Security Guard, which is kind of interesting here because it blocks roleblocks and arsonist.

[Ragian]

Yeah, it was the lie (and the timing of it) on top of claiming a protective role.

[Ragian]

Who's hosting the next one?

[Maxleod]

Who's hosting the next one?

I could but it would be something different. Ever heard of Secret Hitler? It is NOT Mafia, but Mafia-like.

[DirtyDishSoap]

Who's hosting the next one?

Think you just nominated yourself

[DirtyDishSoap]

Alot of the balancing got thrown out of the window after Vot/Thor got banned and Traf couldnt commit. In hindsight, i should have just skipped GF and went for another scummish role, and that's my fault. Really did try not to make this bsstardish and have Prosecutor be the funnish niche but oh well, live and learn.

Broke one of my normal rules though. I gave fake claims. One was not that good, Oracle, but i didn't think they'd run with it. I really think as a mod, I should try to be as hands off as possible aside from answering questions.

Either way, I think I'm done modding or just mafia in general. The lack of anything from x/overwhelming from x has really killed my vibe. Maybe I'll sub, but i need to take a break.

[Charle]

Either way, I think I'm done modding or just mafia in general. The lack of anything from x/overwhelming from x has really killed my vibe. Maybe I'll sub, but i need to take a break.

This is bad news, I enjoyed your comments. Please pop in every now and then.

[Charle]

Who's hosting the next one?

So when can we start the next one Ragian?

[Ragian]

I'll take sign ups in another thread.

@DDS, don't leave, man. Black metal mafia is the way to go

[Loose Canon]

Thanks DDS

Well played Ew and Kong.

Not quite sure how hooker failed to RB me n1.
Can't see how I could have have passed up Charle's charms.

[SoN!c]

Alot of the balancing got thrown out of the window after Vot/Thor got banned and Traf couldnt commit. In hindsight, i should have just skipped GF and went for another scummish role, and that's my fault. Really did try not to make this bsstardish and have Prosecutor be the funnish niche but oh well, live and learn.

Broke one of my normal rules though. I gave fake claims. One was not that good, Oracle, but i didn't think they'd run with it. I really think as a mod, I should try to be as hands off as possible aside from answering questions.

Either way, I think I'm done modding or just mafia in general. The lack of anything from x/overwhelming from x has really killed my vibe. Maybe I'll sub, but i need to take a break.

In hindsight you should have not started another game when my was ongoing. You destroyed both games by doing so... thx a lot!! - people were tooo confused as it was way too much too remember / to handle... i saw that in commentary / questions where players forgot the most simple things. SO THANKS A LOT + you also destroyed Fusi's commitment as noboby knew what they were doing anymore and players killed him first in your game right after they killed him in mine.. thats too much - a Touch Too Much to handle..so byebye to the greatest thx to you

That said - Everyone is entitled to make mistakes in life.

Then you say sorry and get back on that horse - and get Fusi back on too

AH_GAIN: You destroyed both games by doing so...and i think you know

[Extreme Ways]

This game aside - flipping coins is like a lot of mafia games on CC I feel like. There's usually only a couple people playing and everybody else is watching and maybe voting. Add this with the common mod decision to have no lynch unless a majority is reached, and you need to come up with heavily townsided setups to give town a chance because town often doesnt play to their wincon.

Sonic and Votanic as weird players and Votanic in general prefers puzzles over the social aspect, but at least they come out to play.

I wrote this to Kingm after he was lynched. It's really hard to get a lynch through here without hard mechanical evidence of someone's alignment, and I think the common mod decision to not lunch unless majority is reached before end of day is a factor.

I liked the prosecutor aspect in this game, I just think the role is too strong on its own if scum doesn't have a non-factional kill. There weren't many roles that I found to be sufficiently powerful to bring balance to the roles town had, unless adding multiple roles together.

[SoN!c]

This game aside - flipping coins is like a lot of mafia games on CC I feel like. There's usually only a couple people playing and everybody else is watching and maybe voting. Add this with the common mod decision to have no lynch unless a majority is reached, and you need to come up with heavily townsided setups to give town a chance because town often doesnt play to their wincon.

Sonic and Votanic as weird players and Votanic in general prefers puzzles over the social aspect, but at least they come out to play.

I wrote this to Kingm after he was lynched. It's really hard to get a lynch through here without hard mechanical evidence of someone's alignment, and I think the common mod decision to not lunch unless majority is reached before end of day is a factor.

I liked the prosecutor aspect in this game, I just think the role is too strong on its own if scum doesn't have a non-factional kill. There weren't many roles that I found to be sufficiently powerful to bring balance to the roles town had, unless adding multiple roles together.

I'll play next game in a total different style. But i also warned a year ago: "next year you will be playing against yourself as nobody else will be left"

[SoN!c]

Players and CC in general should think about that

[Ragian]

I don't think having two games at once destroyed anything. That would be your opinion rather than a fact.

[SoN!c]

I don't think having two games at once destroyed anything. That would be your opinion rather than a fact.

2 regular games is fine, even three..
But multiball / soap madness at the same time was way too much.

I got same questions 3 times over and noticed nobody remembered anything correct as soon the soap madness started. It was just too much to remember / to handle.. helas thats life but i wont start another game because of it and we lost fusi in the process im afraid. People had the idea to kill him in one game and carried that idea in the other.. I get him (fusi). Getting the kiss of death twice (in both games) is too much. Ofcourse thats my opinion and not a fact... yes, but a real fact is that Fusi is out mafia games. Why is that? Give your opinion

[Ragian]

I don't think someone's choice to do something is something I can give my opinion on. You'd have to ask him. Doesn't matter, though, as you've already made up your mind.

I didn't understand your game anyway, so if I asked the same question over and over again, I would've done so regardless of how many other games I was part of.

People come to mafia, people leave mafia. It's always been like that here. If someone feels butthurt about something, they should address it.

[Loose Canon]

It was good to have more of a meeting of minds with you in this game Rag.

Even if unfortunately your uneasiness of Kong triggered my uneasiness too, to the point I just thought it would be illogical to try to shake it.

Re-reading Kong after he flipped town - it was like well of course he was - and he'd analysed what town had to do so well - I felt really bad and useless.

I'll say it again - well played Kong - and EW.

[Ragian]

I couldn't see him laying out what needed to be done as anything but fog because I didn't get the timing of the initial untruth. Obviously, hindsight with all the facts at hand makes it easy. I'm gutted, however, that you disregard me this game. I liked my effort here.

I'll go cry into a beer somewhere.

[Maxleod]

That's a lynch!


5. Max kills EW (Fails because he didn't read anything. Not helping anymore.) Innocent
6. Ew Prosecutor


Thanks for playing!

And what did I miss exactly? Nowhere does it say that the Prosecutor is immune to night-kills And don't say that I couldn't use my power that night, you PM'd me to remind me to give you my night action..