Line of Duty Mafia game - DAY 2

[annieh]

I'm eager to hear Vanilla Ted Hastings' completely reasonable explanation for all of this. Especially the lack of suspicion on Kingm after the name thing.

In the meantime I started watching Line of Duty lol. Sonic and Devante were both briefly in episode 1!

[Charle]

Ok, over weekend i am just scanning through and take my turns, definitely not sitting here looking at my screen the whole day.

So I'll get it over and done with.

I am Ted Hastings, I am the Moral Compass - town aligned. Once per game I can choose a player in the game, and his role will be revealed. After that I am Vanilla. I chose to use my one time power on night one on Sonic so that we can at least have one confirmed role (scum or town), as end of day 1, there were a lot of talking that I will be lynched and then town have lost that one advantage.

So do with it what you want, believe me or lynch me, that is what it is. Sonic you are known to be so damn sure that I am scum and convince everybody the same way and then I turn out town. Deja-vu

[SoN!c]

Charle, it is you who convinced me your scum with your play. Not the other way around.

But your saying that you served the letter N1 on me right?

Also D1 the talk was about lynching Kingm, not you..there was no pressure on you, just like your unpressured vanilla claim.

But :

A) if "serving the letter" is a town role,
and
B): there is no counterclaim,

Then your town.

[annieh]

Chaps, do you think this Letter of the Law a good enough ability for Ted? He is the Superintendent of the AC unit and has so much experience. Could be it’s 2 shot and he can’t tell us, could be bollocks.

I reckon I’m none too pleased with Charle’s claim not including the job title Superintendent, only the generic Moral Compass. Attention to detail Charle!

I will say, following the letter of the law is very Hastings. He’s a proper copper!

Our “if no one else claims letter guy” plans only work when people attend meetings. I’m not Letter of the Law guy. What if Cod is? COOOOOODDDDDD! F*CK!

Charles and his actions are so fishy they should come with a side of chips.

[SoN!c]

What if Devante served the letter? What was his name? "Paper trail"?

[SoN!c]

Nope it says

"Hi Devante,

You are the Town Aligned - Paper Trail

Some players in this game have limited shot abilities.
You can visit a player each night to learn if they started the game with limited shot abilities."

So without counterclaim Charle is cleared i believe?

[annieh]

What if the counterclaim would have been cod's? Or strike wolf or any of the other people who don't check in and could easily not check in for a while.

I think it looks good not having a counterclaim, and looks better the longer we go. I don't think he's cleared as of currently right now.

I tried looking and for didn't find justification for Charle voting Sonic over Kingm night 1. Sonic, do you know what that was about? I can't understand it for a townie or for scum. What am I missing?

[SoN!c]

That was my idea too. Strange voting, Very low volume, acting newbie when he isn't, zero reaction to the actual Night 1 Town flip (devante), and “post enough to look active, then disappear when real analysis starts” ...

Never seriously pushed his earlier high-suspect Kingm despite calling him out. Just dropped it..

He knows my playstyle- so why voting me instead of D1 flip flap Kingm? And more important: why no vote on Kingm at the end of D1? And why no letter action on kingm now he claims the letter on me was his?

+ way too many "You will understand once you lynched me" / "waste a lynch on me, no problem" / "not a loss to town at all" — reads as reverse-psychology scum trying to look sacrificial.

Scum-dumb play by Charle. It makes no sense.

We were right to tore it apart.

Then comes the classic scum stall tactic: dangle "big reveal later" to buy time.. why did he had to wait 24hours to come up with that "moral compass" story?

Defensive stall tactics if you ask me, ..

But the biggest question now is: why was Charle questioning confirmed town (me)...talking "SoN!c's mod result could have been bussed by a scum night action" WHEN HE CLAIMS NOW TO HAVE SERVED THAT VERY LETTER HIMSELF!!

[strike wolf]

Unvote for now. Despite Son!c's questions about how and why, there is too much evidence out there at the moment to disregard this claim without someone else claiming to be the one to have revealed Son!c. Its possible that there is more to Charle's role that hes not telling because he wants to downplay, but I cant see Loose giving scum that ability.

[Charle]

The reason i was not voting King D1 was and i said it D1 as well that I believe he is town

[SoN!c]

Charle please answer the big question (in bold). It does not make any sense if your town..

[Charle]

Sonic, it was just to f*ck with your brains, and it worked. Or was it? I also wanted to be 100% sure that your role that was given to us was in fact yours and not somebody else's.

I am vanilla now that I already used my role, or am I?

Like I said before, let's try and get to scum, don't waste energy on me. The fact that Annie just want everybody to believe I am scum, is a serious red flag in my books as well. What is more important to me is that we do not get more results from N1, and a bit disappointing. It took way too long for Loose to start day 2 to work out the N1 actions for me to believe my action was the only one for town though.

[SoN!c]

Charle. This game of yours in Line of Duty...it's an exact copy play style from the Vegas game where you flipped mafia cop.

And in Vegas you even used the same excuse : a mafia bus driver..

Here is your quote from that game:

Well, what can I say? Either Sonic is making a false claim (which I don't think he is doing it would be too far fetched) or scum have a bus driver or framer or something.

Looks like you can copy paste it here again won't you say..?

You also did the "dangle - big reveil later".. in Vegas you needed time to come up with "im the Time Bomb", here it is "im the Moral Compass"..

Do you know your cornered and is your claim "a last scum suicide tactic" only intented to make the real town PR to reveil by counterclaiming? So your fellow scum will know who to kill tonight?

Because "just to f*ck with your brains" makes no sense to do on the only confirmed townie D2...

My vote stays on you Mr. TIME BOMB.

[SoN!c]

PS: @Charle: i need more then the "just to f*ck with the only confirmed townies brains" excuse.

You did not answer to who do you think the possible 4 scums are. If your town you should have no problem providing a scummy to chubby list.

Seems your dodging that question scumb dumb too

[hjelp]

...
I am Ted Hastings, I am the Moral Compass - town aligned. Once per game I can choose a player in the game, and his role will be revealed. After that I am Vanilla. I chose to use my one time power on night one on Sonic so that we can at least have one confirmed role (scum or town), as end of day 1, there were a lot of talking that I will be lynched and then town have lost that one advantage.
...

@Charle

Were there a lot of talking that you were to be lynched D1 ? I didn't noticed that. Kingm for sure risked to be lynched. You had one vote on you and it was Djf and you questioned Kingm.
What do you mean with "a lot of talking that I will be lynched ..."?
and that's why you used a one time PR D1.

[SoN!c]

Also Charle, if you search "Ted Hastings" online it's "Moral Compass" everywhere:

"Detective Chief Superintendent Ted Hastings, played by Adrian Dunbar in the BBC police drama Line of Duty, is widely considered the moral compass and emotional core of the AC-12 anti-corruption unit.


The "True North" of AC-12: Within the show, he serves as the moral compass, ... "

So just a quick google search gives you the "im the Moral Compass" line...

But nothing in your play adds up to being town.. it's full of sh*tty scumfish and you keep changing your story as you go.

Your unpressured "im vanilla D1 claim" and your "im 100% vanilla" confirmation D2 is - (looking back on your "Moral Compass" line now) - "shaky half baky" at best. Your self-contradicting all the time (which is a nicer word then to say your a liar).


You were not under lynch pressure D1. Your best answer to my question -where i pointed out your self-contradicting behavior - again was a "just to f*ck with the only confirmed town brains""

That's a "you got me answer" because really - that is throwing the towel because your caught in your self contradictions and there is just no way out of dead end LIAR STREET anymore...


You know all too wel there is a rule in mafia games: lynch all liars.

So defend yourself and make that scum list (If your town). And if you are really town you need to because you got yourself in this mess being caught in too many lies and contradictions. With a "just to f*ck with the only confirmed town brains" as (only) excuse

[annieh]

Charle,

Could you have been named early because you're so special?
Could you have made an unpressed false vanilla claim early for pro AC-12 reasons?
Could you have set a trap D1 for kingm then decided it was a bad trap after all and you're really more sus of Sonic?
Could you have left out your job title because you didn't think it was important?
Could you have asked the bus question because of your history with buses and not to cast doubt on your own report?

Yes, you could have, and because you named the ability with the most Ted Hastingest name ever and no one else says it's them, fishy as it may be, it's what I'm going to believe for now.

UNVOTE

[annieh]

FP'd by Sonic
I thought I checked, what the hell

[annieh]

To be clear I mean the thing saying sonic was served Letter of the Law.
My issue with Moral Compass is that it isn't Superintendent.

[Charle]

PS: @Charle: i need more then the "just to f*ck with the only confirmed townies brains" excuse.

You did not answer to who do you think the possible 4 scums are. If your town you should have no problem providing a scummy to chubby list.

Seems your dodging that question scumb dumb too

Did you read the second part of that same sentence? WTF, you wanna lynch me, go ahead and do so. You are so sure that I am scum, then do it. I was dead honest this whole game. Like I said, don't waste energy on me, we need to find scum

[hjelp]

There isn't much avtivity going on, sorry that I say so.
@Loose Canon
When is the date closure for D2?

[Loose Canon]

Current Vote Count;

Charle 3 - Kingm, Sonic, Hjelp
General Cod 1 - DJFireside

8 needed for lynch - Deadline Wednesday 1 April

Also I will be flipping a coin between Cofari and Riskmaster tomorrow (Tuesday 24th March) to replace one of them with Devante subbing back in - assuming neither post in this forum by either by then.

To be fair to Cofari he has pm'd me with apology and suggested I either modkill or replace him
But I'm reticent to change what I've said re coinflipping - so I'm not going to do that

[SoN!c]

Unless the peeps that said "i'll play" actually play this game is officialy dead. Dead. DED. D.O.A.

Unvote

Vote Traf

At least Charle and King are playing...

(Vote Traf For not playing - 2 meaningless posts a game day is not enough).

Game plan: LC needs to modkill all zombies ASAP and then we kill the silent players first..

We will play the finale with players that actually play - scum or town - way more fun that way

[strike wolf]

Ragian, Kong, anyone have opinions?

[Ragian]

Doing a proper read of D2 and just jotting down this because I think I had kongming in my town pile D1, but there's something about all this hypotheses...ing...that raises an eyebrow. Especially the highlighted bit where it feels as if kongming is trying to sow doubts on any confirmed townies (Son!c?).

Interesting night kill. Not sure why Dev specifically was chosen, but the loss of a relatively weak pr is acceptable if not ideal. Only one death probably means successful protection, potential delayed kill, or scum has some other advantage in terms of numbers or strength of role powers. Also could be possible that they have a conversion mechanism (like bribery?), so if any confirmed town are surviving past when they should in later stages, alive town players should be skeptical. Would be nice to know show context for if that ever happens in the show.

Anyway, this is also getting my knickers in a twist:

Ragian, Kong, anyone have opinions?

Where the fudge have you been all game to come at me for lack of posting opinions? But yes, of course I have an opinion. Or a gut feeling.

I think Charle is town for three reasons:
1) He seems genuinely cross with Son!c, and I know that such a feeling can swing both ways, but I read Charle's emotions as town.
2) As Strike (annoyingly) pointed out, I think revealing a role to the entire community seems like a town aligned role. I can't see a) why scum would have a role that reveals to everyone what another player is (I can understand if a scumster learns another player's role like a role cop), or b) why would it be in scum's interest to have that role? I just don't see it.
3) Had I been Charle, I would've also used it on Son!c N1 due to Son!c's play D1 (sorry buddy) and Charle finding himself in a pickle and trying to utilise himself early doors in case he was lynched. That smells town to me.

That said, I can kinda see where Annieh is coming from with the whole superintendent role versus this Letter of the Law. I just don't see the role as a scum role.

Is that good enough for you, Mr. Strike who pops in here every two weeks? HUH?!

*goes to sulk by the cooler*

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Now, @Traf, what were you up to last night?