Line of Duty Mafia game - DAY 2

[hjelp]

Well , I can return to my - trying to activate participants - and hopefully get som more info during D2.

Unvote Charle

Vote TrafalgarLaw01

[Djfireside]

Im back as well and alot to unbox with Charle and their claim but with no counter claim coming its a larger pill to swallow with their own crossing comments. Questioning your own output is rather strange and the reasoning did match. I will follow my intial plans as well just with a different target in this time and continue to watch and read.

UNVOTE
VOTE TrafalgarLaw01

[Djfireside]

fp Hjelp

[TrafalgarLaw01]

I still want to hear what Traf was up to last night.

Ok, Catching up busy weekend and Monday. I'm still have to read drom this post onward.
But you have asked twice.

So I guess you have any kind of info. I don't know how much I want to reveal. But I indeed went somewhere last night.

Will finish reading see if something else is important or if I need to say more

[TrafalgarLaw01]

Ok, finished reading and Now I have 4 votes. Lol. I'm town. i did an action last night, but not sure it's worth sharing, but I'll see what happens

[SoN!c]

Ok, finished reading and Now I have 4 votes. Lol. I'm town. i did an action last night, but not sure it's worth sharing, but I'll see what happens

Might wanna share that you killed Devante?

[Ragian]

I can say that he didn't kill Devante (barring some freaky bussing, misdirection, or third), but I'd still say that his action is important to scrutinise for two reasons that I will divulge if this is going nowhere.

[Charle]

We have to be careful, scum will now know that Traf did go somewhere, he got some info, or he protected, or he is scum. I think traf, if you did receive any info it will be in favour of town to reveal? Anything we can work with will be good.

[SoN!c]

Traf has had weeks — since late February — to say literally anything.
He chose radio silence through the entire "Charle 2am Moral Compass circus", on anything... Nothing. Zero.

Crickets.

Classic zombie-scum move: “Just don’t get noticed and I’m golden.”

And now, the second he hits 4 votes and sees the wagon rolling, he magically appears with:

“Ok, finished reading… and now I have 4 votes. Lol.”

That’s not “finishing reading.”

That’s “Oh shit, they’re actually voting me — quick, type something!”

You saw the heat piling up fast, panicked, and only THEN decided to post something. That’s the reverse order on how it happened.

You cannot buy that “I just caught up, lol” excuse. It’s pure scum reacting to the wagon, not Town “catching up.”

Big difference.


(And Traf — if you really are Town, congrats on the worst “I was just reading” timing since Charle’s 2am resurrection. At least Charle had the decency to claim a power first )

[SoN!c]

We have to be careful, scum will now know that Traf did go somewhere, he got some info, or he protected, or he is scum. I think traf, if you did receive any info it will be in favour of town to reveal? Anything we can work with will be good.

@Charle: It's scum reacting to the heat. Not town "catching up"..

Please vote traf because we need to lynch today no matter what. Otherwise the game could be over and scum wins (3 zombies as dead weight). No need to defend Traf. Let him defend himself. A town Traf knows Fusi always said "not sharing is anti town".

[Loose Canon]

I've just pm'd Devante to sub in for Riskmaster (tails)

[Ragian]

I feel like I need to just come clean with what I know because I feel like we have little to nothing to go on here. This is why we lynch D1, damnit. We wouldn't be in this stalemate (yeah, I know the non-posters are also part of that, but hopefully Devante is here soon to remedy that a bit).

To be honest, I was all about to go for Son!c D2 because I felt that his D1 play (as mentioned ad nauseam) was the least townie. Therefore, thinking that Son!c, if scum, wouldn't be doing anything N1 given that he did have a fair amount of people looking his way, I looked at whom Son!c seemed to distance himself from and came up with Traf. So, I turned my attention to Traf. I also felt that Traf was very helpful D1 with posting clarifications about gameplay and similar, but posting no content and no reads. He seemed to me to look busy without being busy.

I know what Traf did last night, and now you also know that Traf did something last night. What I know isn't (necessarily) a smoking gun. It's circumstantial, but I feel like we have nothing else to go for, and I don't see anyone offering up anything (myself included) given that no one wants to lynch KingM anymore. Maybe apart from Annie.

Traf went for Son!c. This got me baffled because that meant that my read that Traf and Son!c were in cahoots was wrong. There we go. I was wrong. It happens a lot when not part of an informed scum crew. Still thinking that Son!c was most likely scum, I thought that Traf was town, but then the Letter of the Law hit confirming Son!c as town (which is also why I think Charle is town) and turned everything upside down for me. Scum would obviously know already that Son!c is town, and if they, like me (and others), thought that Son!c came off a bit scummy D1, they might fear that he'd be vetted by a cop for D2 and target him for a night kill (I think Son!c had made it obvious that he was a PR of sorts already). Killing off Son!c would be easy. You could probably even claim vig for killing him if caught. I know that all of that is conjecture, but what has made my scumdar ping is this:

Also just 1 night kill so i think somebody was saved?

Why you think so. i mean with this ammount of players is likely to have 2 kills in 1 night, I'll give you that, but some deaths might come slowly, like if poison or something like bombs or wahtever have delay effect deviced by Loose. But also 3 inactive players that the mod does not kill, so it's cause they have rolls, let's see if they show up today:

Unfortunate death of Dev, but not important power role for town, so not that bad

Traf tried to downplay the only one death raised eyebrow of Son!c's with a shotgun-like array of possibilities that seem pulled out of thin air. Another thing the post above does is question why Son!c would think there was someone saved. It looks like rolefishing disguised as discussion of the setup. Again, this isn't damning evidence, which is why I just asked Traf what he did rather than say exactly what he did, and if Traf had steamed in here ensuring me with the content of his posts that he is town, I would've probably abandoned this, but
- Traf visited our only confirmed townie
- Traf looked busy without being busy D1
- Traf seemed to be rolefishing early D2
- Traf has four votes and still only says, "oh well, nothing to see here."

[hjelp]

Ok, finished reading and Now I have 4 votes. Lol. I'm town. i did an action last night, but not sure it's worth sharing, but I'll see what happens

@ Traf

In order to move forward and finding scum, shouldn't it be worth sharing ?

[annieh]

WELCOME BACK DEVANTE!

Are Cod and Cofari removed or what?

[SoN!c]

Based on Ragian’s info I’m not convinced Traf is the best lynch today.

Traf has been a complete ghost for weeks. The sudden “I just finished reading lol” post the moment he hit 4 votes screams reactive scum, not Town catching up.
That said, Ragian's info does not make any sense Traf being scum - unless Traf is a poisoner of some sorts. He did mention the possibility of a poisoner (or similar delayed kill mechanism) in play in a very casual way at the beginning of D2..

But for now (D2):
Knowing Traf he will (for now) remain utter silent until L-2 happens..

Look if your town Traf then scum can put 1+1 together too.. So a full claim is the best option now if your town.

[TrafalgarLaw01]

I feel like I need to just come clean with what I know because I feel like we have little to nothing to go on here. This is why we lynch D1, damnit. We wouldn't be in this stalemate (yeah, I know the non-posters are also part of that, but hopefully Devante is here soon to remedy that a bit).

To be honest, I was all about to go for Son!c D2 because I felt that his D1 play (as mentioned ad nauseam) was the least townie. Therefore, thinking that Son!c, if scum, wouldn't be doing anything N1 given that he did have a fair amount of people looking his way, I looked at whom Son!c seemed to distance himself from and came up with Traf. So, I turned my attention to Traf. I also felt that Traf was very helpful D1 with posting clarifications about gameplay and similar, but posting no content and no reads. He seemed to me to look busy without being busy.

I know what Traf did last night, and now you also know that Traf did something last night. What I know isn't (necessarily) a smoking gun. It's circumstantial, but I feel like we have nothing else to go for, and I don't see anyone offering up anything (myself included) given that no one wants to lynch KingM anymore. Maybe apart from Annie.

Traf went for Son!c. This got me baffled because that meant that my read that Traf and Son!c were in cahoots was wrong. There we go. I was wrong. It happens a lot when not part of an informed scum crew. Still thinking that Son!c was most likely scum, I thought that Traf was town, but then the Letter of the Law hit confirming Son!c as town (which is also why I think Charle is town) and turned everything upside down for me. Scum would obviously know already that Son!c is town, and if they, like me (and others), thought that Son!c came off a bit scummy D1, they might fear that he'd be vetted by a cop for D2 and target him for a night kill (I think Son!c had made it obvious that he was a PR of sorts already). Killing off Son!c would be easy. You could probably even claim vig for killing him if caught. I know that all of that is conjecture, but what has made my scumdar ping is this:

Also just 1 night kill so i think somebody was saved?

Why you think so. i mean with this ammount of players is likely to have 2 kills in 1 night, I'll give you that, but some deaths might come slowly, like if poison or something like bombs or wahtever have delay effect deviced by Loose. But also 3 inactive players that the mod does not kill, so it's cause they have rolls, let's see if they show up today:

Unfortunate death of Dev, but not important power role for town, so not that bad

Traf tried to downplay the only one death raised eyebrow of Son!c's with a shotgun-like array of possibilities that seem pulled out of thin air. Another thing the post above does is question why Son!c would think there was someone saved. It looks like rolefishing disguised as discussion of the setup. Again, this isn't damning evidence, which is why I just asked Traf what he did rather than say exactly what he did, and if Traf had steamed in here ensuring me with the content of his posts that he is town, I would've probably abandoned this, but
- Traf visited our only confirmed townie
- Traf looked busy without being busy D1
- Traf seemed to be rolefishing early D2
- Traf has four votes and still only says, "oh well, nothing to see here."

Ok, since you spilled everything out I must say what I did and who I am, but you all will see why it was not that good info considering what happened today.

I'm kate Flemming - tracker.

I wanted to track Kingm cause I still think he is suspicious from his post D1.
But Last game I was scum I wanted to fake a semi-tracker role and got busted for saying I followed a vanilla. So I did not wanted people to think I was making an excuse if forced and said "I followed king and foun nothing". So I decided to go with Sonic cause sometimes he is all over the place, but I wanted to be sure. He visited Ragian.
But then D2 someone posted the letter so my info went to shit. And Ragian just made it worst

[Charle]

I agree completely Sonic, we need some more info from Traf and we should be careful to lynch one of our stronger players (although is quiet at the moment), and based on Ragian's info, i think he is town. for me at the moment:
Town:
Me
Sonic
Ragian
Traf

We need to find a bit more to get to scum, anyone else with some info from last night?

FP'd by Traf, and that even make my list even more stronger! So is Ragian going to die Sonic?

[Charle]

Our doc is going to have his hands full tonight, that's for sure!

[Ragian]

Now that Traf has spilled the beans, SoN!c, can you corroborate that you visited me?

@Charle, why do you ask if I will die?

[Ragian]

@Traf, to be honest, if you had at all come off as town, I wouldn't have had to divulge anything. Also, let's just dive into what you're saying: You chose to track Son!c because you didn't want to look like scum for tracking a vanilla like in the last game where you were scum. What? Is that correctly understood? So, are you effectively saying that you tracked Son!c because you want to appear town? Are you saying that you are a scum tracker? And you have a name. like Charle.

I've only watched the first episode, but Kate Fleming checks out in that episode.

[TrafalgarLaw01]

@Traf, to be honest, if you had at all come off as town, I wouldn't have had to divulge anything. Also, let's just dive into what you're saying: You chose to track Son!c because you didn't want to look like scum for tracking a vanilla like in the last game where you were scum. What? Is that correctly understood? So, are you effectively saying that you tracked Son!c because you want to appear town? Are you saying that you are a scum tracker? And you have a name. like Charle.

I've only watched the first episode, but Kate Fleming checks out in that episode.

I'm sayign I do not want to get mistakenly as scum.
Like picking easy targets to wahtever to get away

[SoN!c]

Now that Traf has spilled the beans, SoN!c, can you corroborate that you visited me?

@Charle, why do you ask if I will die?

Yes, i had full cover on you. I was expecting a kill attempt on you.. And since i looked a bit scummy me thinks i was pretty safe myself (but i posted a big hint to all town to see: don't waste powers on me the first 2 nights).

[SoN!c]

@Traf, to be honest, if you had at all come off as town, I wouldn't have had to divulge anything. Also, let's just dive into what you're saying: You chose to track Son!c because you didn't want to look like scum for tracking a vanilla like in the last game where you were scum. What? Is that correctly understood? So, are you effectively saying that you tracked Son!c because you want to appear town? Are you saying that you are a scum tracker? And you have a name. like Charle.

I've only watched the first episode, but Kate Fleming checks out in that episode.

I'm sayign I do not want to get mistakenly as scum.
Like picking easy targets to wahtever to get away

You posted D1 "i think Son!c" is town" or something like that, and again D2 "yeah see: SoN!c is town just like i tought"... so this makes no sense when you say you wanted to track me to make you look like town?? Did i got that right? Because that is the worst reasoning i heared all game long and boy shit flies a lot around here..

Also, a scum Traf -full knowing my role- would know i gave hard cover to Ragian.. Any day. Or..

..lets analyse this propperly

"But Last game I was scum I wanted to fake a semi-tracker role and got busted for saying I followed a vanilla. So I did not wanted people to think I was making an excuse if forced and said "I followed king and foun nothing"."

Your saying you tracked a target (that you had as town in your note book!) just to get some "proof" that you are indeed a tracker and you can use that "proof" later just to save your own hide whenever needed.....

not searching for scum but just collecting info to save yourself....


That is a pretty solid confession mr mafia tracker..

[TrafalgarLaw01]

@Traf, to be honest, if you had at all come off as town, I wouldn't have had to divulge anything. Also, let's just dive into what you're saying: You chose to track Son!c because you didn't want to look like scum for tracking a vanilla like in the last game where you were scum. What? Is that correctly understood? So, are you effectively saying that you tracked Son!c because you want to appear town? Are you saying that you are a scum tracker? And you have a name. like Charle.

I've only watched the first episode, but Kate Fleming checks out in that episode.

I'm sayign I do not want to get mistakenly as scum.
Like picking easy targets to wahtever to get away

You posted D1 "i think Son!c" is town" or something like that, and again D2 "yeah see: SoN!c is town just like i tought"... so this makes no sense when you say you wanted to track me to make you look like town?? Did i got that right? Because that is the worst reasoning i heared all game long and boy shit flies a lot around here..

Also, a scum Traf -full knowing my role- would know i gave hard cover to Ragian.. Any day. Or..

..lets analyse this propperly

"But Last game I was scum I wanted to fake a semi-tracker role and got busted for saying I followed a vanilla. So I did not wanted people to think I was making an excuse if forced and said "I followed king and foun nothing"."

Your saying you tracked a target (that you had as town in your note book!) just to get some "proof" that you are indeed a tracker and you can use that "proof" later just to save your own hide whenever needed.....

not searching for scum but just collecting info to save yourself....


That is a pretty solid confession mr mafia tracker..

Whre did I in Day 1 say I thought you were town. I said on D2 I had you as maybe as town before the letter came because of my night action

[SoN!c]

You didn’t finish reading… you finished panicking.

And if you said it beginning D2 "SoN!c is just like i was thinking" then that proofs the point exactly..

I was honestly expecting a Cop claim — at least then the real Cop would have to come out and counter.
But no… you drop a "Town Tracker"claim… and you didn’t even track the most obvious suspect (Kingm) on Night 1?
Instead you tracked some random Town-leaning player “just in case I need to prove I’m a Tracker later.”
Hahahahahahaha!
Is this Line of Duty… or a comedy special?
Because right now it feels like we’re all watching the world’s most obvious “I got caught so I’ll claim a safe power” routine.
Traf, that timing is so bad it deserves its own episode on the show.

Here is the title already:

“The Tracker Who Tracked Nothing Until He Got 4 Votes.”