Batman Mafia~~~GOTHAM WINS!!!!!!!!

LSU Tiger Josh · Post by **LSU Tiger Josh** » Fri Jun 29, 2007 6:22 am

[quote="Kernal_Kronic"]
I've been suspicious of derf 4 a long time. i'm convinced he's the joker & has been playing us all along..

I'm leaving in about 6 hours to go away for the weekend so i'm not going to vote just yet, but if he's still lynch -1 when i leave i'll drop the hammer.

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Backing your talk of being suspicious of him when I gave you the perfect opportunity to vote and not worry about it being a hammer that quickly.

Kernal_Kronic · Post by **Kernal_Kronic** » Fri Jun 29, 2007 6:24 am

Yeah, i get jumped on for being cautious...and then LSU removes his vote to wait for derfs defense but was more than happy to vote him before hand.

i do think that derf is dodgy but i could be wrong, i once tried to get someone lynched who i thought was scum but was really a cop which everybody seemed to know except me & i landed up getting lynched

Serbia · Post by **Serbia** » Fri Jun 29, 2007 6:25 am

Kernal_Kronic wrote:I was waiting until the last possible minute to vote instead of speed lynching(which is "scum') but now apparently waiting is scum to so...

No, waiting is not scum, saying "I'm going to vote, I'd be the clincher, but I'll do it later" is scummy. If you don't intend to vote, at least disguise it better, like you want more info or something. Or you'd be better off not posting. But saying something raises suspicions.

LSU Tiger Josh · Post by **LSU Tiger Josh** » Fri Jun 29, 2007 6:27 am

That is a distinct possability Skittles. While it would suck they couldn't share their ideas with us, it wouldn't bother me that much if they keep taking out scum

In regards to Fircoal earlier, just b/c he isn't "interested" does not automatically make him scum. Just makes him a drain on pro town. I was in another game with him and he just was bored with the game so we thought he was scum. Turned out he wasn't. Just so everyone can at least think about it. If a day comes where I'm at a blank then he is as good of a target as any since he isn't helping, but until then FOS Fircoal

LSU Tiger Josh · Post by **LSU Tiger Josh** » Fri Jun 29, 2007 6:29 am

I removed my vote to give you the chance to vote as I won't be gone til Sunday and can drop the hammer after he has a chance to speak up. All I'm making sure of is the hammer will fall before Sunday

Skittles! · Post by **Skittles!** » Fri Jun 29, 2007 6:29 am

LSU Tiger Josh wrote:That is a distinct possability Skittles. While it would suck they couldn't share their ideas with us, it wouldn't bother me that much if they keep taking out scum

Ha! So I do get noticed. Anyway, that would be pretty good. Though it would be nice of what exactly they though, but hm. I guess we'll just find out later in the game.

Kernal_Kronic · Post by **Kernal_Kronic** » Fri Jun 29, 2007 6:31 am

LSU Tiger Josh wrote:
Kernal_Kronic wrote: I've been suspicious of derf 4 a long time. i'm convinced he's the joker & has been playing us all along..

I'm leaving in about 6 hours to go away for the weekend so i'm not going to vote just yet, but if he's still lynch -1 when i leave i'll drop the hammer.

Backing your talk of being suspicious of him when I gave you the perfect opportunity to vote and not worry about it being a hammer that quickly.

I just haven't bought his "I"M A FOOL" claims throughout the game & i've posted about it a few times as well.

But I've voted now, so lets see...

and serb, i see what you're saying but there wasn't much substance to post on & i didn't want people to think that i'm sub-ing & just jumping on for a quick lynch...

LSU Tiger Josh · Post by **LSU Tiger Josh** » Fri Jun 29, 2007 6:34 am

K_K if I don't remove the vote then yes it could be considered that. However, I removed the vote to allow you the chance to get your vote down like you claimed you wanted to do as right now I still think Derf is just an idiot and not scum. I also know that we could do a lot worse then him in regards to a random lynch which is why I originally voted. ML asked to hold off on the hammer so I unvoted to allow you to get your vote in before leavign for the weekend while I can revote at any time should xen post or derf not make a suitable defense.

Kernal_Kronic · Post by **Kernal_Kronic** » Fri Jun 29, 2007 7:03 am

Okay sweet. If derf can come up with anything of use then i'd consider changing my vote but if he's previous posts are anything to go on then i don't think he will & if derf does turn out to be scum then we have our next target for the next day.

I personally think that people who aren't posting anything useful should get lynched especially considering how things have turned out.

We need as much info as possible

Koesen · Post by **Koesen** » Fri Jun 29, 2007 8:24 am

Unvote Freezie

I'm not sure about Derf. I think he's 99% annoying (occasionally he says something useful), but that doesn't equal scum. Also, I'm still worried he has the role that requires him to be lynched.

Anyway, he's at lynch -1, so I'll give him a chance to say something interesting.

derfderf34 · Post by **derfderf34** » Fri Jun 29, 2007 9:24 am

Neutrino wrote:
derfderf34 wrote:ok i roleclaimed because i was trying to help the town by finding out who was and wasnt scum bying hiding

also when you guys noticed that i wasnt voting for rnadom reasons anymore you would think i had become scum by suddenly lying low and going with the crowd
How many hiders does this game need? CMC roleclaimed hider, now everyone is doing it. Even if you are telling the truth and you are a hider, then you are probably a mafia one. This is basically day one again and you are acting the scummyest.

Goodbye, Derf.

ok we all switched cells so we would get previously owned roles so i get cmc's makes sense

go ahead lynch me you band wagoners you'll regret it

Skittles! · Post by **Skittles!** » Fri Jun 29, 2007 9:26 am

derfderf34 wrote:
Neutrino wrote:
derfderf34 wrote:ok i roleclaimed because i was trying to help the town by finding out who was and wasnt scum bying hiding

also when you guys noticed that i wasnt voting for rnadom reasons anymore you would think i had become scum by suddenly lying low and going with the crowd
How many hiders does this game need? CMC roleclaimed hider, now everyone is doing it. Even if you are telling the truth and you are a hider, then you are probably a mafia one. This is basically day one again and you are acting the scummyest.

Goodbye, Derf.
ok we all switched cells so we would get previously owned roles so i get cmc's makes sense

go ahead lynch me you band wagoners you'll regret it

Is that your defence? Seriously? And you can't get CMC's role, cause it was lynched. And would we really regret lynching an idiot?

derfderf34 · Post by **derfderf34** » Fri Jun 29, 2007 9:27 am

Skittles! wrote:
derfderf34 wrote:
Neutrino wrote:
derfderf34 wrote:ok i roleclaimed because i was trying to help the town by finding out who was and wasnt scum bying hiding

also when you guys noticed that i wasnt voting for rnadom reasons anymore you would think i had become scum by suddenly lying low and going with the crowd
How many hiders does this game need? CMC roleclaimed hider, now everyone is doing it. Even if you are telling the truth and you are a hider, then you are probably a mafia one. This is basically day one again and you are acting the scummyest.

Goodbye, Derf.
ok we all switched cells so we would get previously owned roles so i get cmc's makes sense

go ahead lynch me you band wagoners you'll regret it
Is that your defence? Seriously? And you can't get CMC's role, cause it was lynched. And would we really regret lynching an idiot?

yes becasuse if this nights anything like the last the mafia will catch up real fast

Skittles! · Post by **Skittles!** » Fri Jun 29, 2007 9:29 am

derfderf34 wrote:
Skittles! wrote:
derfderf34 wrote:
Neutrino wrote:
derfderf34 wrote:ok i roleclaimed because i was trying to help the town by finding out who was and wasnt scum bying hiding

also when you guys noticed that i wasnt voting for rnadom reasons anymore you would think i had become scum by suddenly lying low and going with the crowd
How many hiders does this game need? CMC roleclaimed hider, now everyone is doing it. Even if you are telling the truth and you are a hider, then you are probably a mafia one. This is basically day one again and you are acting the scummyest.

Goodbye, Derf.
ok we all switched cells so we would get previously owned roles so i get cmc's makes sense

go ahead lynch me you band wagoners you'll regret it
Is that your defence? Seriously? And you can't get CMC's role, cause it was lynched. And would we really regret lynching an idiot?
yes becasuse if this nights anything like the last the mafia will catch up real fast

Last night we got a mafia and a cult recruiter, and before that we got the Hatter.
Is that really so bad?

You're really not putting in that much of a defence, but why do you roleclaim all the time? It's better to help the town in secret than to roleclaim all the time.

derfderf34 · Post by **derfderf34** » Fri Jun 29, 2007 9:31 am

Skittles! wrote:
derfderf34 wrote:
Skittles! wrote:
derfderf34 wrote:
Neutrino wrote:
derfderf34 wrote:ok i roleclaimed because i was trying to help the town by finding out who was and wasnt scum bying hiding

also when you guys noticed that i wasnt voting for rnadom reasons anymore you would think i had become scum by suddenly lying low and going with the crowd
How many hiders does this game need? CMC roleclaimed hider, now everyone is doing it. Even if you are telling the truth and you are a hider, then you are probably a mafia one. This is basically day one again and you are acting the scummyest.

Goodbye, Derf.
ok we all switched cells so we would get previously owned roles so i get cmc's makes sense

go ahead lynch me you band wagoners you'll regret it
Is that your defence? Seriously? And you can't get CMC's role, cause it was lynched. And would we really regret lynching an idiot?
yes becasuse if this nights anything like the last the mafia will catch up real fast
Last night we got a mafia and a cult recruiter, and before that we got the Hatter.
Is that really so bad?

You're really not putting in that much of a defence, but why do you roleclaim all the time? It's better to help the town in secret than to roleclaim all the time.

that was luck of the draw and in secret wont help the town

MountainLion · Post by **MountainLion** » Fri Jun 29, 2007 10:13 am

Unvote because I think we can at least afford derf one more day. If he's telling the truth, scum will want to kill him off this coming night. I highly doubt we have any cops since both Gordon and Bullock are dead, so I'm willing to give derf a chance to help us out.

Now who to vote.....?

n8freeman · Post by **n8freeman** » Fri Jun 29, 2007 10:20 am

sry about not posting these last 3-4 pages

i was at an amusement park
any way, derfs roleclaim does seem pretty weird, and random

but his explanation about switchingcells and switching roles
WTF!!

what does a person jail cell have to do with their role??!!
that dumb defense makes no sense, explaine urself

MountainLion · Post by **MountainLion** » Fri Jun 29, 2007 10:24 am

Also derf is making some pretty good points. If scum are going to get a number of kills each night, why hold information from the town? What if derf was killed? Then absolutely no information would be known. If derf is who he says he is that helps the town quite a bit at this point since we most likely don't have any cops left. We can rule out derf and Fircoal as scum. I'm willing to lynch someone else and see if derf or Fircoal get killed. If scum kill them, we know they're innocent. If scum don't kill them, we still have confirmed gotham players and derf can give us another name.

My main point is that I'm willing to listen to derf because we've lost two cops, and I doubt we can win this game without some kind of help. Yeah there may be a couple vigilantes out there, but they don't know who's scum and who's not.

Skittles! · Post by **Skittles!** » Fri Jun 29, 2007 10:25 am

Hm, I'm noticing the people that are going for someone, and then just back off for no reason..

FOS: Serbia and LSU

n8freeman · Post by **n8freeman** » Fri Jun 29, 2007 10:27 am

derfderf34 wrote:
Neutrino wrote:
derfderf34 wrote:ok i roleclaimed because i was trying to help the town by finding out who was and wasnt scum bying hiding

also when you guys noticed that i wasnt voting for rnadom reasons anymore you would think i had become scum by suddenly lying low and going with the crowd
How many hiders does this game need? CMC roleclaimed hider, now everyone is doing it. Even if you are telling the truth and you are a hider, then you are probably a mafia one. This is basically day one again and you are acting the scummyest.

Goodbye, Derf.
ok we all switched cells so we would get previously owned roles so i get cmc's makes sense

go ahead lynch me you band wagoners you'll regret it

what i bolded is the only thing that seems weird

i agree with mountain lion though, it would be pointless to lynch him unless we get some ground-breaking information

LSU Tiger Josh · Post by **LSU Tiger Josh** » Fri Jun 29, 2007 10:28 am

FOS Skittles actually if you hadn't skimmed you would've noticed that I never really thought Derf was scum. I've said even when I voted for him that I thought he was just an idiot and was giving a chance to explain.

MountainLion · Post by **MountainLion** » Fri Jun 29, 2007 10:28 am

I think the fact that XenCobra is back in this game could prove that derf got a role of the deceased. maybe XenCobra was some kind of loony in the asylum and with the switched cells he got a playable role.

MountainLion · Post by **MountainLion** » Fri Jun 29, 2007 10:32 am

Skittles, you were just pushing for derf's lynch and now you're pointing the finger elsewhere.

FOS Skittles

LSU Tiger Josh · Post by **LSU Tiger Josh** » Fri Jun 29, 2007 10:33 am

although if you want Skittles I could easily get on you and stay there without backing off. My point is I would prefer to lynch scum and Derf will most likely die soon enough from the scum

n8freeman · Post by **n8freeman** » Fri Jun 29, 2007 10:35 am

MountainLion wrote:I think the fact that XenCobra is back in this game could prove that derf got a role of the deceased. maybe XenCobra was some kind of loony in the asylum and with the switched cells he got a playable role.

i dont get this

WHAT DOES THE CELL HAVE TO DO WITH THE ROLE
WHY WOULD SWITCHING CELLS BE IMPORTANT, UR STILL THE SAME PERSON

i believe that our roles havent been just randomly switched

i think that the roles have maybe been "enhanced" like if someone was a cop, they might get bullets and become a vig

or a doc might become a reviver
or something like that

or maybe if someone was a normal pro-gothom or anti-gothom, their alter egos might have come out and they gain some special role

idk

i just think that the "random role switches" are quite unlikely