nietzsche & ABSOLUTE_MASTER [Cleared]

[nietzsche]

Cleared Nephilim CLEARED

Kid Its all your fault

[Kid_A]

Cleared Nephilim CLEARED

Kid Its all your fault

how in the world did you find out?

[ABSOLUTE_MASTER]

i'm sorry, but i really don't get this. what investigation and interrogation do you refer to?

Terrible... calling the webmaster a jerk.... I mean... had he done something to you.. I'd understand it... but just for the sake of if... bad...bad...

is it impossible for someone to decide to cheat for the first time? or to go out and attempt to prove a point about the scoring system? or to lie about their level of concern for points?.

You know shit about me... so stop pretending you know my motives.. Zero... Null.. ... Cero... EL Zocho... NOTHING.. so drop it know.. You are just making a fool of yourself and getting MORE people to say this type of things about you:

As for nephilim, he's just got an attitude problem because he has to live in north carolina and he's had to watch as several of his homies break the 3000+ mark and he continues to wallow in the mid-twos. I wouldn't take his shit too seriously.

And that is the least obscene I got.... I don't even dare to post the others I received...

i don't like abs, that is true.

Yes.. EVERYONE knows that already... I don't know why actually... All I've had for you is love and more love...

but i'm much more concerned about keeping things above board around here than i am about a personal grudge......

Bullshit... we all know what drives you:

if the world has learned something from me after 100 years is, that we first have a feeling, then we create the whole fucking rationalization to support it.

even hecter recognized that the evidence was overwhelming.....

Not nice..... Amazing how people say shit about hecter ALL the time and only when he betrays someone who's been on his side they decide his opinion is worth a penny.... Stop using the boy you retard...

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Now get over it... Go play some games and stop fucking around...
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Mooooooood.. we need a mod to lock this thread... the sucker already said he's keeping this alive cuz he doesn't like me.....
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On a second thought.... Neph..... I think you need a hug.... come here babe.. you can get a big hug from me... mwah!

[AAFitz]

Well, I wasn't really trying to see things the way I wanted to see them. I was trying to see them in whatever way would make you look guilty, to see how you would respond (and admittedly, the case does seem very strange).

Anyway, I do believe you that it was just a bunch of coincidences that all piled up and made it look like you were very guilty. And hwhrhett is also correct in that letting something like this slide easily would just encourage more people to do it.

I'm personally be in favor of deleting all the games in question and letting each player retain their previous score. I don't know if thats possible at this point, but if it is, perhaps it could solve the problem for both sides?

Thanks sully800 for the excellent investigation work and interrogation work you've done on this case! I had no idea it would turn into such a bruhaha.

I agree that it seems more like a bunch of coincidences. It has become clear to me that ABSOLUTE_MASTER is innocent and nietzsche, I'll give you benefit of doubt. I have cleared the block, reversed the score reset and because this is a special case I deleted all 50 games in question (which nullifies the points gained).

I'm unlocking the thread, on condition that people don't flame each other.

i'm sorry, but i really don't get this. what investigation and interrogation do you refer to? in this thread all we have is nietzsche's side of the story and one tiny bit from scott that actually seems incidental.

they set up 50 games at once that just "happened" to be deadbeated? and abs gets off b/c she was an innocent bystander.....wait a minute, the only evidence you have that she wasn't actively involved in a point heist....is nietzsche's statement that he had to leave town suddenly. that's it. unless you count a couple of character witnesses that attest to her honor. wtf is that? is it impossible for someone to decide to cheat for the first time? or to go out and attempt to prove a point about the scoring system? or to lie about their level of concern for points?

i don't like abs, that is true. but i'm much more concerned about keeping things above board around here than i am about a personal grudge. any player who almost cracked the top 10 (or wherever it was) by cheating deserves to get slammed. i'd love to see any evidence this wasn't an out and out scam, beyond the testimony of the accused and some shallow character testimony from friends of the accused. even hecter recognized that the evidence was overwhelming.....

this all looks really shaky....

Nemph...it think it obvious that it is possible they did it on purpose...but it is also obvious that its possible they didnt...if ABS is busted, and had no idea he was going to deadbeat...thats far worse than not busting them for actual cheating...far worse...they got nothing out of this now except accusations, and im sure many and obviously yourself will consider them guilty...but all the points were revoked...the games deleted

and for the future...if someone tries to set up many games and deadbeat, the points will be reset, and they may very well be busted...

the benefit of the doubt has to be given here, because, it really is possible it was accidental...Id like to think that if something happens, and I deadbeat in my games, that im not accused of throwing games with a partner i have 20 or so with since right now that would be blitz...but dont worry blitzer, im not going anywhere...its just an example

But If i deadbeated right now, Id cost blitz a couple hundred points lets say...I partnered with dug for many, and most know we were cc friends...In that situation, someone might accuse of some insane vengeful plot...and some would believe it...others wouldnt...but Id like to think that since its perfectly possible that I was hiking, got lost in the woods, and had to eat bark for 4 days, and missed all my turns, that someone would believe me, and that I wouldnt get banned for my inability to read a compass....

they handled this well...they busted them, heard them out, and then gave them the benefit of the doubt, cancelled the games, and implied a warning to them and all that even if accidental, this wont be tollerated...In my opinion it was handled perfectly...If they are lying, they are the ones that have to live with it...it would mean they cheated, got no points, and got suspected of cheating by many...and lied through thier teeth to protect thier status on an internet game...I have no problem believing them...because if they are lying, they mean nothing to me anyways, and their scores will always mean nothing, no matter what they do...but since there's no way to prove it was cheating, and it really is plausible that at least ABM was innocent, there is no way to punish them further...the risk of puninshing someone for being in the wrong place at the wrong time, far outweighs the risk of letting a cheater play on...

[ABSOLUTE_MASTER]

...they mean nothing to me anyways...

THAT is the attitude some people should have here.... IT'S AN ONLINE GAME.. some people should stop pretending this is real life....

I understand teenagers getting so overwhelmed about this game.. but grown ups...Get a life....

Thanks AAFitz.. the benefit of the doubt.. that's all we need here...

Jerks like Neph think they have the right to judge people and decide who is guilty or innocent... But wtf am i talking about... Neph is a 12 year-old....

Regards,

Me!

[hecter]

i don't like abs, that is true. but i'm much more concerned about keeping things above board around here than i am about a personal grudge. any player who almost cracked the top 10 (or wherever it was) by cheating deserves to get slammed. i'd love to see any evidence this wasn't an out and out scam, beyond the testimony of the accused and some shallow character testimony from friends of the accused. even hecter recognized that the evidence was overwhelming.....

Despite the fact that there was a lot of evidence that pointed to them being guilty of such a horrendous act (sarcasm) that is point hording, I still didn't think she did it. There was the testimony of both niezt and the people that he got to account sit for him (of which you are biased of, and therefore do not trust), the fact that we know AM and know that her character and morals wouldn't allow her to do such a thing, and, quite frankly, the fact that we don't know that AM was even involved in this. We know why they started the 50 games, as they made it public. I don't know why nietz deadbeated those games, and, quite frankly, I doubt I will ever trust an answer from him or the mods, but the fact of the matter is, why should AM be punished for something we didn't know she did? She's smart enough to know that if she suddenly shot to the top of the scoreboard in a day that people would notice, and then question how she got there. She's trustworthy enough for us to know that she wouldn't pull such a stupid stunt.

The evidence itself supported both stories. The one that you think to be true, and the testimony given by nietz and others. I don't think the mods would have made all the evidence known, and even if they had, it would have been difficult for anybody to create a story that the evidence also supported.

I don't know why you don't like AM, or nietz, but the fact is, she did not do it. I know that as a fact.

[red bull]

i think am just likes to complain... alot .... she complained about spamalot about niets getting blocked and now she is crying about a "misunderstanding" wich i think there was something screwed in all that ... but i am so so so sorry for any one that knows you in real life

[ABSOLUTE_MASTER]

i think am just likes to complain... alot .... she complained about spamalot about niets getting blocked and now she is crying about a "misunderstanding" wich i think there was something screwed in all that ... but i am so so so sorry for any one that knows you in real life

I think you're a big ignorant who can't even read... Just because you like to kiss wicked's ass it doesn't mean you know what's going on....

At 1338 useless posts.. i think you post way more shit around than what i could even dream of posting....

What's the need of getting involved in something that has nothing to do with you... oh .. i know... spread your shit around..

Deleting Spamalot: AK's mistake.... It was fixed or not?
Banning Nietz: the "so called glitch"... aka wicked's mistake.. fixed or not?

Get a life.... and stop supporting their mistakes just because they are mods...

[chessplaya]

Bravo to all

AAfitz i have asked u 1000000000000 times to shorten ur posts so i read them ....cuz from now on i am just moving over them

[AAFitz]

Bravo to all

AAfitz i have asked u 1000000000000 times to shorten ur posts so i read them ....cuz from now on i am just moving over them

that was the condensed version...my computer crashed when i tried to download the entire file

[ABSOLUTE_MASTER]

that was the condensed version...my computer crashed when i tried to download the entire file

lol....

[red bull]

i think am just likes to complain... alot .... she complained about spamalot about niets getting blocked and now she is crying about a "misunderstanding" wich i think there was something screwed in all that ... but i am so so so sorry for any one that knows you in real life

I think you're a big ignorant who can't even read... Just because you like to kiss wicked's ass it doesn't mean you know what's going on....

At 1338 useless posts.. i think you post way more shit around than what i could even dream of posting....

What's the need of getting involved in something that has nothing to do with you... oh .. i know... spread your shit around..

Deleting Spamalot: AK's mistake.... It was fixed or not?
Banning Nietz: the "so called glitch"... aka wicked's mistake.. fixed or not?

Get a life.... and stop supporting their mistakes just because they are mods...

it has nothing to do with any of us ... but its a forum to talk about things on the site anything spamalot had nothing to do with you ... neits had nothing to do with you why in the world did you get involved in that and yes i do like ak and wicked but not beacuse they were mods ... infact wicked was one of the first people to start a conversation with me when i first joined so naturaly i would defend her {just like you defened neits} so whats your point?

Oh and fyi most of my post are for mafia games look em up if you want ... and i am pretty sure you might just so you can complain about the ones that are not

[ABSOLUTE_MASTER]

it has nothing to do with any of us ... but its a forum to talk about things on the site anything spamalot had nothing to do with you ... neits had nothing to do with you why in the world did you get involved in that and yes i do like ak and wicked but not beacuse they were mods ... infact wicked was one of the first people to start a conversation with me when i first joined so naturaly i would defend her {just like you defened neits} so whats your point?

Oh and fyi most of my post are for mafia games look em up if you want ... and i am pretty sure you might just so you can complain about the ones that are not

Did I say you're an ignorant? Let me add your a stupid ass....

1. Learn to use some punctuation... commas, periods, colons and semicolons won't hurt you.... I don't speak good English, but at least I make an effort for people to understand what I write... In your case is 100% shit.. so at least make your shit comprehensible....

2. Spamalot was my business... Nietz IS my business... you came here just to add your 2 cents of shit.. neither me or nietzs are your business.. so f*ck off... if all you have to say is how wicked was the first one who talked to you and that's why you have to kiss her ass in every thread.. you're a bigger jerk than I thought...

3. Wicked is not being accused here... why on earth do you need to defend her?... the red-haired witch is a big girl and doesn't need a farmer who doesn't know the different between a computer and a cow's ass to defend her.. so... get a life....

4. Are you an idiot?.. I have never played with you...never even heard of you... you are as important as a question mark to me... why would I check your childish posts... pfft....

5. Please.. there IS life outside of CC..... go enjoy it.. go milk a cow or two...

[wicked]

flame away kiddies.

And blaming me for a bug in the system shows how completely ignorant you really are... that or you're just making up shit for a reason to bitch. either way... I hope you can find whatever happiness is missing in your life to help you overcome this hostility you harbor. good luck with that.

[ABSOLUTE_MASTER]

flame away kiddies.

And blaming me for a bug in the system shows how completely ignorant you really are... that or you're just making up shit for a reason to bitch. either way... I hope you can find whatever happiness is missing in your life to help you overcome this hostility you harbor. good luck with that.

And I am the hostile one...? Good one bitch!

No one blames you for the glitch... everyone knows you're too stubborn and retrograde to listen to other people... you're so pathetic.. you're not a martyr.. stop thinking the world is against you... you're a bitch.. everyone knows that... you're just mad because I called your ass kisser a blind farmer...

And the more upset I get you the more I enjoy it... so go on..... I'm loving it!

[wicked]

No ABS you seem to be blaming me, not that I care...

Banning Nietz: the "so called glitch"... aka wicked's mistake.. fixed or not?

And I'm nowhere near upset, that would imply I actually care about your situation, which I don't.

[AK_iceman]

A Decent CC - Member wrote

There shouldn't be a dash between CC and Member. That makes no sense at all. And weren't you just giving red bull a hard time for his punctuation? What a hypocrite.

[ABSOLUTE_MASTER]

A Decent CC - Member wrote

There shouldn't be a dash between CC and Member. That makes no sense at all. And weren't you just giving red bull a hard time for his punctuation? What a hypocrite.

What an ass.. I can write that in Spanish if it makes you happy.. English is not my mother language... Was that the best you had? Criticizing a Spanish speaking person for her English....

Why don't you go back to the library... this time to do some studying instead of stealing internet?

So how does this work? The witch gets offended and she moves the thread to flame wars where her buddies can easily flame me?

Dorks!.... This is way too much fun.... I never thought those $20 will provide me so much satisfaction....

[wicked]

you started the flaming that moved it here.

[ABSOLUTE_MASTER]

No ABS you seem to be blaming me, not that I care...

Banning Nietz: the "so called glitch"... aka wicked's mistake.. fixed or not?

And I'm nowhere near upset, that would imply I actually care about your situation, which I don't.

Oh babe... you do care... so much.... You posted.. you locked the thread.. you edit your flaming.. you posted back.. you move it... blah blah...

I don't deserve so much of your attention.... why don't you go to a bar and find someone so you can get some? You sound like you really need one right now...

[AK_iceman]

What an ass.. I can write that in Spanish if it makes you happy.. English is not my mother language... Was that the best you had? Criticizing a Spanish speaking person for her English....

Oh, I didn't know you spoke spanish from the U.S. flag in your profile. You must be one of those illegals I'm always hearing about then, huh?

And if you can flame someone for their punctuation, then you better expect to get it back when you f*ck up. If you can't take the heat, stay the f*ck out of Flame Wars.

[ABSOLUTE_MASTER]

you started the flaming that moved it here.

Hypocrite...

i think am just likes to complain... alot .... she complained about spamalot about niets getting blocked and now she is crying about a "misunderstanding" wich i think there was something screwed in all that ... but i am so so so sorry for any one that knows you in real life

How is your buddy's post related to the original post....?

[wicked]

you're right ABS, you don't, but I like to humor the retards, make them feel special.

[ABSOLUTE_MASTER]

Oh, I didn't know you spoke spanish from the U.S. flag in your profile. You must be one of those illegals I'm always hearing about then, huh?

And if you can flame someone for their punctuation, then you better expect to get it back when you f*ck up. If you can't take the heat, stay the f*ck out of Flame Wars.

Illegal...haha... you wish... Best flaming you can do?

"Oh.. she's Hispanic.. she must be illegal... I'm a retard... my name is AK.. the penguin"...

[ABSOLUTE_MASTER]

you're right ABS, you don't, but I like to humor the retards, make them feel special.

So I guess you spend the day in front of the mirror..?

Interesting...